[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Why all the hate???

I know...you did not....just SLANDER the lead singer of the Cruxshadows.

You didn't.


You know. I don't sleep at night. I stalk the streets looking to drain the life force from loud mouth biblethumpers who don't know their place.

Don't smack talk those lyrics. DO NOT.

www.cruxshadows.com

Cruxshadows: Those who stand in the shadow of the cross.

THAT'S RIGHT MOTHERLICKERS. CHRISTIAN. GOTH. MUSIC.

I'll put those lyrics in the place they belong.

Here....

They are shallow and trite.

They play into a consumer culture and their only real purpose is to part you from your money.

They are a joke as you are dear.

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

They play into no consumer culture! The Cruxshadows are on an independent record label and their songs have no radio air time, although they well should because their music might make the world a better place if more people listened to it rather than that unholy rap music.

to qoute their singer yet again : "Tell what really matters, is it the money or the fame or how many people eventually know your name? Or maybe you touch one life and the world becomes a better place to be, maybe you give their dreams another chance to be free."

[VictoryOS]

Re: Why all the hate???

They play into no consumer culture!

So you're saying they give their music away for free? They don't accept any sort of monetary payments at all?

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Why all the hate???

They play into no consumer culture! The Cruxshadows are on an independent record label and their songs have no radio air time, although they well should because their music might make the world a better place if more people listened to it rather than that unholy rap music.

to qoute their singer yet again : "Tell what really matters, is it the money or the fame or how many people eventually know your name? Or maybe you touch one life and the world becomes a better place to be, maybe you give their dreams another chance to be free."

So what. All your proving to me here is that they a very clever at creating an image so appeal to gothtards. It's a very clever way to extract money out of you.

Your also proving to me that you are one mixed up cookie. First you say gothism is not religious but rather a fashion statement and then you go on to say that Cruxshadows and your culture is Christian-gothism. Give me a break. You can't have it both ways.

I wonder how a natural healer/shamanism mixes into all this heavy metal industrial goth junk?

What really tops it of is your professed violence to good Christian folk. To quote from you:

"I don't sleep at night. I stalk the streets looking to drain the life force from loud mouth biblethumpers who don't know their place."

Your quite the little hypocrite, you know that, right?

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

Firstly, I obviously don't stalk the streets at night. That's called humour.

Secondly, no, goth is not a religion and if it were it is not my religion. But the Cruxshadows music has TRUE meaning to it. And before you go badmouthing them, you might wanna climb off your high horse and go listen to their music. That way you can make an informed desicion.

Or better yet, go meet their singer and talk with him like a real human being would do. Do your research, ask questions.

And, on a side note, what's with the bondage pictures in your photo album? I mean, I'm not against it, if that's your thing, that's your things, but...seriously...I thought you were against all that stuff.

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

I wonder how a natural healer/shamanism mixes into all this heavy metal industrial goth junk?

I don't like nor listen to heavy metal. I listen to some industrial because to me, music is a form of spiritual band-aid.

When you get bit by a viper, first you need to draw out the poison and then you need to cover the wound.

The darker, heavier music I listen to is to draw out the venom in me and then, music like that of my much beloved Cruxshadows is the metaphorical band-aid.

[Foreign Perspective]

Re: Why all the hate???

Yea, I only been on these forums a day an I just wanted to ask... why all the hate?

I read a few of the threads here, and I jus wanted to cry. It seems lik for every lovin message of God's unconditional love, there was another filled with hate an the devil. That not rite!

Can someon tell me why all thes gothics hate us so? Is it cuz we all Christians? I heard they all Satanics who hate God and spit on littl baby Jesus? Uuughhh... it's sick! What make em lik that? Is it cos they all retarded?

My momma said, if you don't have somethin nice to say, don't say it at all.

It's okay ruthy. The goth culture doesn't readily hate anything. Well except when they were stereo typed by an unmentioned group of people to be fags, suicidal and above all satanic. Maybe if someone had decided to call you an imbred hate monger due to that lovely neo facist regalia you have on, you might be slightly miffed yourself. The light of god does not descriminate for gender, fashion, and thankfully preference of race. Though it might descriminate on grammar.

Amen

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Why all the hate???

I'll be sure to stop by and sing the most beautiful song I know at the top of my lungs in full-out goth getup in your church in the middle of Sunday morning mass.

I'll tell you what. If we ever have a mass in our church, you're more than welcome to attend.

Anti-American jibber jabber

You should be getting down on your knees and thanking God for America and how we saved your butts from the Nazis.

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

anti-american jibber jabber? what did I say that was anti-american?

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

Wait, never mind, you were talking to my Bear. He can say what he wants, he works for the military.

[VictoryOS]

Re: Why all the hate???

Wait, never mind, you were talking to my Bear. He can say what he wants, he works for the military.

Brother, I don't see anyone here named "Bear". Although it does sound like homo slang, and I'm sure that's still not allowed in President Bush's Military. Have you been smoking the peace pipe in your wigwam again?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Why all the hate???

GOTH IS NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A FASHION STATEMENT.

That’s true. And the statement it makes is, “I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR MYSELF!”

It's going to be a sad sad day for the Landover Baptist Church the day I decide to go on a roadtrip you realize....

Yeah, we spend all of our time thinking about you, and how you're just way cooler than we are, and how we really wish we could be as great a person as you are, and how we're all afraid that if we meet you, we'll be converted to Gothism because you're such a dynamic, got-it-all-together person.

I'll be sure to stop by and sing the most beautiful song I know at the top of my lungs in full-out goth getup in your church in the middle of Sunday morning mass.

Excellent. Freehold police have a shoot on sight policy for Goths, so consider yourself invited.

I'm a shaman, or medicine woman.

You need medicine, woman.

I know...you did not....just SLANDER the lead singer of the Cruxshadows.

How can you slander a “musician” who has no talent?

their songs have no radio air time

Because they suck. They should call themselves the Suxshadows.

Firstly, I obviously don't stalk the streets at night. That's called humour.

It has to be funny before you can call it humor.

music has TRUE meaning to it. And before you go badmouthing them, you might wanna climb off your high horse and go listen to their music. That way you can make an informed desicion.

When I was young, I knew a guy who committed suicide by drilling into his brain 19 times with a ¼” drill bit. I thought that was stupid. Everyone I knew thought it was stupid. But, you know, maybe we should have climbed off our high horse and tried it ourselves. That way we could have made an informed decision. The reason I mention this is that, if I had a choice between listening to the Cruxshadows or committing suicide with a drillpress, I’d opt for the drillpress.

talk with him like a real human being would do.

As opposed to what a fake human being would do? How did you know that we're really all just Stepford Christians(TM)?

Do your research, ask questions.

I have a question. Why are we wasting time discussing nobodies like the Fuxshadows?

You Goths all talk a good game about death, but, when it comes to actually committing suicide, you don’t have the balls. Well, here’s my offer. You kill yourself, and, to apologize for doubting your commitment to your death culture, I will post the entire catalog of Cruxshadows songs here in the Landover Forum. Put up or shut up, Injungle Bunny.

[Foreign Perspective]

Re: Why all the hate???

You should be getting down on your knees and thanking God for America and how we saved your butts from the Nazis.

First of sister. Which I find odd that a woman who calls herself a sister would allow herself to be called a wench. You mistook my nationality. It's not of importance because home is where you hang your hat and place your boots at the end of the day as it was said by a friend of mine. I am indeed in america and I am also a member of it's armed services. You say I need to thank for the nazi's defeat? I believe that you should thank the canadians, as well as the russians. Both of whom were critical of the defeat of the nazi's. The canadians downed the best warfighter of that era being the Red Baron. Who had shot down more that 60 american fighter pilots. And the russians exhausted the germans by dragging their main attack forces into the russian winter, which is a rather intolerable experience. An uneducated comment can simply be ignored but the lack of knowledge i find most saddening. Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.

Amen.

[Foreign Perspective]

Re: Why all the hate???

Brother, I don't see anyone here named "Bear". Although it does sound like homo slang, and I'm sure that's still not allowed in President Bush's Military. Have you been smoking the peace pipe in your wigwam again?

A simple nickname of sorts. But if it is truly what you wish. I have attempted to part wisdom with you but sadly the table lacks. And man will devour and divide itself unto nothing but the righteous, who would have cut all but those who were proven from the cloth, given forth to new light and freed of despair.

Amen.

[Nigra Squaw]

Re: Why all the hate???

That’s true. And the statement it makes is, “I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR MYSELF!”

Yeah, we spend all of our time thinking about you, and how you're just way cooler than we are, and how we really wish we could be as great a person as you are, and how we're all afraid that if we meet you, we'll be converted to Gothism because you're such a dynamic, got-it-all-together person.

Excellent. Freehold police have a shoot on sight policy for Goths, so consider yourself invited.

You need medicine, woman.

How can you slander a “musician” who has no talent?

Because they suck. They should call themselves the Suxshadows.

It has to be funny before you can call it humor.

When I was young, I knew a guy who committed suicide by drilling into his brain 19 times with a ¼” drill bit. I thought that was stupid. Everyone I knew thought it was stupid. But, you know, maybe we should have climbed off our high horse and tried it ourselves. That way we could have made an informed decision. The reason I mention this is that, if I had a choice between listening to the Cruxshadows or committing suicide with a drillpress, I’d opt for the drillpress.

As opposed to what a fake human being would do? How did you know that we're really all just Stepford Christians™?

I have a question. Why are we wasting time discussing nobodies like the Fuxshadows?

You Goths all talk a good game about death, but, when it comes to actually committing suicide, you don’t have the balls. Well, here’s my offer. You kill yourself, and, to apologize for doubting your commitment to your death culture, I will post the entire catalog of Cruxshadows songs here in the Landover Forum. Put up or shut up, Injungle Bunny.

Goth isn't a death culture, freak. And GOTHS do not talk about killing themselves. That's the Emo kids. Get it right honey. <3