[tLakota]

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Do any of tongue talkers in your church suddenly become fluent in real languages like Spanish, Chinese, or German that they have never studied? If so, then I would be prepared to believe that people in your church are operating in gifts of the Spirit.

If all the "tongue-talking" your church does is nonsense that only the preacher understands, then what you are witnessing is an old carnie trick -- not a miracle.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Nobody at my church speaks in tongues, it was Ezekial that brought up speaking in tongues and lilpentacostalgirl that mentioned participating in it. All I did was point out that it's in the bible and isn't demon possession in the proper context, which would be in the presence of the Holy Spirit. Or at most, people pretending to feel closer to God, regardless of whether they are in public or not. Nice to hear from you pastor.

[VictoryOS]

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According to things I've seen on tv and in movies, it's always the fattest lady in the congregation who speaks in tongues. She falls over on the floor and shakes the whole building with her weight. Then she starts writhing, screaming, passing gas, kicking, biting things. And the horrible sounds that come from their mouths! No, it's nothing to be proud of. It's a wretched sight.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Speaking in Tongues is proper and in the bible.

In the Bible, the gift of tongues meant that the apostles spoke in their own language, but the listeners each heard in their own languages. It was a true miracle.

On the other hand in the Pentecostal Church, the gift of tongues means some old lady jumps out into the aisle during the middle of the sermon and starts having a seizure and shouting gobbledy-gook, and only the preacher claims to be able to understand.

Do any of tongue talkers in your church suddenly become fluent in real languages like Spanish, Chinese, or German that they have never studied? If so, then I would be prepared to believe that people in your church are operating in gifts of the Spirit.

If all the "tongue-talking" your church does is nonsense that only the preacher understands, then what you are witnessing is an old carnie trick -- not a miracle.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[JennyD]

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Dee dee dee! You r-tard! It was an obvious typo, stupid! And it seems like you know an awful lot or at least giving a lot of thought to seducing a good Christian man, married or not, while drinking and fornicating. Gross, you're supposed to be free of perversions of the mind, what the hell is wrong with you to post something so outlandish on this forum? I'd suggest you find something else to do while the adults here talk it out using the Word of God. We don't need more stupid comments here.

dee dee dee? I thought your name was tLakota.

If the typo was so obvious, why did you not see it?

No, I think you wrote just what you meant, harlot! Seductress!

[tLakota]

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So then you'll be leaving us then?

Don't even try that one on me. Maybe you should talk to that woman and ask why she wants to be a homewrecker. Seriously, who would want to comment on an obvious typo with such filth?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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We don't need more stupid comments here.

So then you'll be leaving us then?

[tLakota]

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By speaking in lounges?!

My, there is simply nothing ladylike whatsoever about sidling up to strange men in seedy airport bars. I can imagine it now. You put on your big Dolly Parton . . . wig, and tightest, most revealing dress, and 4" heels, then slip up next to a strapping Christian family man as he relaxes between flights:

"Howdy, flyboy, like my runway? I got my landin' lights on for ya, honey . . . How about you buy me something to whet my whistle, then we'll go have a little prayer session? <giggles> Well, at least ONE of us will have to get on bended knee!"

I'm sure "kissing snakes" is not above a harlot who seduces strange men (or maybe women!) in lounges!

This is a Christian forum. I certainly did not expect to be seeing such displays of perversion and loose morals here, of all places!

Dee dee dee! You r-tard! It was an obvious typo, stupid! And it seems like you know an awful lot or at least giving a lot of thought to seducing a good Christian man, married or not, while drinking and fornicating. Gross, you're supposed to be free of perversions of the mind, what the hell is wrong with you to post something so outlandish on this forum? I'd suggest you find something else to do while the adults here talk it out using the Word of God. We don't need more stupid comments here.

[JennyD]

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First of all I do not kiss snakes but I have spoke in lounges, which is in the bible its one of the gifts. I am saved in the lord and I try my best to live according to his word.

By speaking in lounges?!

My, there is simply nothing ladylike whatsoever about sidling up to strange men in seedy airport bars. I can imagine it now. You put on your big Dolly Parton . . . wig, and tightest, most revealing dress, and 4" heels, then slip up next to a strapping Christian family man as he relaxes between flights:

"Howdy, flyboy, like my runway? I got my landin' lights on for ya, honey . . . How about you buy me something to whet my whistle, then we'll go have a little prayer session? <giggles> Well, at least ONE of us will have to get on bended knee!"

I'm sure "kissing snakes" is not above a harlot who seduces strange men (or maybe women!) in lounges!

This is a Christian forum. I certainly did not expect to be seeing such displays of perversion and loose morals here, of all places!

[lilpentecostalgirl]

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First of all I do not kiss snakes but I have spoke in lounges, which is in the bible its one of the gifts. I am saved in the lord and I try my best to live according to his word. Do you know why there is so many different denominations? because people can not agree with what they believe is or is not in the bible. Being baptist or catholic does not make you a Christian its your personal relation ship with the father, son and the holy ghost and not what church you go to. This is how cults start!

[Nobar King]

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Well, if the dieting doesn't work, there's always cancer. That'll take a few pounds off before you die.

[tLakota]

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That is a gross misinterpretation of the Holy Word of God. Take a look at THIS.

I've read the document. It appears that it focuses on the lingual translation of tongues to others, and whether or not a rushing wind or fire is seen upon those that speak in tongues at services. But I found 2 problems in this article. One, they talk about the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit to be vital to the validity of speaking in tongues. But how is it that you decide who has the spirit descend upon them when the article itself contradicts itself with Paul's admission of praying in tongues.

In 1 Corinthians 14:14-15, Paul is correcting the error of using tongues as prayer language. In verse 15 he says that he would pray and sing both with his understanding, because to do otherwise is unfruitful. Plainly Paul is condemning those that had perverted the gift of tongues by teaching it was a prayer language. Earlier in verse 2, he concluded that when men spoke in tongues no one understood but God. He points out the singing and praying in a language that no one else knows does not help that person by teaching those present the truth. This is always in view in the Bible and in the correct use of tongues.

According to this article, speaking in tongues is still a prayer language if authentically brought on by the Spirit. It seems the biggest point of the article is to avoid abuse by false prophets looking to get rich.

Two, nowhere in this article do they say that people that practice speaking in tongues are possessed by demons or some other malevolent force.

Paul says, "my spirit prayeth" in other words those that practice tongues as a prayer language are not doing so though the Holy Spirit, but by their human spirit. Using 1 Corinthians 14:14 as an example of "praying in tongues" is a gross error. Praying in the spirit, as practiced by the modern tongues movement is promoted as being something highly desired, yet God, speaking through the Apostle Paul condemns it. Today modern tongues is presented as a special spiritual communication with God, but the truth is the Bible does not teach this anywhere! In Verse 9, Paul says that speaking in tongues as the Corinthians were doing was "speaking into the air."

I don't see demon possessed in this statement at all. If anything, they make fake or add a little theatrics to 'speaking into the air' but that doesn't mean they are possessed or that they don't give thanks to God properly in another way. If anything, it seems to be another matter of harmless self-indulgence if not misused. If you disagree strongly, please post more scripture to back up your position. After all, the Bible only says so much and alot is left to speculation or is taken out of context due to the first translation.

On a final note, a little off topic. I had a little issue with this part of the article. Keep in mind, anyone can start a website and fill it with their ideas to influence others. If I knew who wrote it or influenced it, I might be more willing to take all the info at heart level.

There is no reference in the Bible of a woman speaking in tongues. In 1 Corinthians 14:34, women were forbidden to speak in tongues in public. In contrast to that, in tongues speaking churches today, it is practiced mostly by women. Paul says if they had questions they were to ask their husbands at home.

Paul's reference to women was to Jewish Housewives in the synagogue, which was the main place of worship back then, not to members of the Church. Also, with only a few references to speaking in tongues/to the air in the bible, why would it be a big deal that they weren't referenced to women? The Jewish culture is different to ours. And the current Jewish culture varies from the Bible era versions. What's your thoughts on that?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Speaking in Tongues is proper and in the bible. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and they were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. Acts 2:3-6
Not only are you not supposed to understand this issue, you are supposed to follow this. Without speaking in tongues and operating in gifts of the Spirit, the Holy Ghost is not descending upon you. How do you explain that?

That is a gross misinterpretation of the Holy Word of God. Take a look at THIS.

[tLakota]

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No, but it IS a sin to be a false Christian. Pantycoastals are hellbound for worshipping God incorrectly. I suppose you kiss snakes too? And speak in "tongues"?

By the way, I've always been curious....What does "Shonda La Honda" mean in English? You freaks always seem to start off with that phrase of gibberish when being possessed by demons posing as the Holy Spirit.

Speaking in Tongues is proper and in the bible. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and they were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. Acts 2:3-6
Not only are you not supposed to understand this issue, you are supposed to follow this. Without speaking in tongues and operating in gifts of the Spirit, the Holy Ghost is not descending upon you. How do you explain that?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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"false Christian"???

i didn't know there was such thing as a "true christian"

You're looking at one, nancyboy.

What are you even doing here? This is a True Christian™ forum, and we are here to Praise Jesus.

Take a look at our beliefs.

[MyQueerDad]

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"false Christian"???

i didn't know there was such thing as a "true christian"