[Wally's World]

Re: Pray for this RETARD to die!

Mr. Goldman, deep down you know there is no Scripture to justify your beliefs that handicapped people are going to burn in Hell just for being handicapped. Yes sometimes God punishes people in life (or uses tragedy to wisen them up and accept Christ as He did with me), but where do you draw the conclusion that all handicapped people are hated by God?

Your quote is also out of context (as usual).

Romans 9
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Yes, God does have control over us. And yes he made handicapped people that way for a reason.

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Now herein lies the problem with your Scripture twisting. You are trying to claim that what Paul is saying here implies that handicapped people are endured with longsuffering because God hates them.

But that would logically entail that anyone who suffers would mean that God hates them. Does that mean every person who gets cancer is hated by God? Everyone who ever gets in a car accident? Are you so bold to claim that you've led a perfect life with nary an incident of misfortune?

Besides, a careful look at the Scripture reveals that God does not hate these people (nor damn them). He does it to "show his wrath" and "make his power known". Nowhere does Paul say that those who suffer his wrath are going to be damned to Hell. Using my life's tragedy, indeed God did show me his wrath and made his power known. And look where it brought me? It made me Saved! I am now a Christian.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Pray for this RETARD to die!

Wally, Wally Wally, how can you have such filthy glasses. You do not seem like a complete moron so think for a moment. As you know, God is all powerful and can e merciful or incredibly damning and cruel. There are a lot of retards in the world, right? Why do you think this is? Did God make this abominations to force man to rise up above obstacles? Or did he do it to punish?

What can be accomplished if the point was to overcome the disability? I have never heard of a retard being a truly productive member of society (WalMart greeter is not a productive position). Mostly, these slabs of jellified flesh just consume resources better used by those that could honestly appreciate them. You know many people have to give up worthwhile lives to tend to the care and feeding of these beings. You know deep down in your heart, all we really need is a few few of these people in zoos, where the keepers could take care of a few retards as part of the daily routine there nd people could enjoy the retard antics.

The real reason these creatures are here is a punishment. Often a punishment for a sin of a parent, grandparent, brother or sister, these mistakes are intended to be a burden. The problem is, society seems to often take on the responsibility of the burden, which is completely wrong. If some skanky whore boozes it up, snorting crank and crack fornicating with anything that will fit, these retards can be the result. Gods intention was to burden the whore with the retard, to show her the evilness of her ways. Either she cares for it or goes to jail for neglect. A pretty good 'life on earth' punishment. Unfortunately, 'kindly people' get involved, make sure the mistake is cared for and therefore the rest of the honest hard working society has to take care of the failure. We end up being punished. This is not Gods will and is grossly incorrect. I do not care how pure a True Christian™ life you have led. You get involved with one of these errors and you will be damned to Hell for all eternity.

God gave us life. He intended for the stongest to rise to the top of the human world and he intended for the weakest to be destroyed. Please Wally, I beg of you, do not go against God's will, it just is not natural.

[TC Patriot]

Re: Pray for this RETARD to die!

He's probably just using the sign language symbol for "I love you", but you can't see his thumb, so who knows. Sign language has the thumb out, while the satanic gesture uses the thumb to hold the other 2 fingers. Its a subtle but important difference.

That is the same demonic gesture you LIEbrul drug freaks make at the Ozzy Osbourne concerts as you pay homage to you prince of darkness.

His gesture is saying that he loves this guy and not this guy .

[TC Patriot]

Re: Pray for this RETARD to die!

Mr. Goldman, deep down you know there is no Scripture to justify your beliefs that handicapped people are going to burn in Hell just for being handicapped. Yes sometimes God punishes people in life (or uses tragedy to wisen them up and accept Christ as He did with me), but where do you draw the conclusion that all handicapped people are hated by God?

Your quote is also out of context (as usual).

Romans 9
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Yes, God does have control over us. And yes he made handicapped people that way for a reason.

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Now herein lies the problem with your Scripture twisting. You are trying to claim that what Paul is saying here implies that handicapped people are endured with longsuffering because God hates them.

But that would logically entail that anyone who suffers would mean that God hates them. Does that mean every person who gets cancer is hated by God? Everyone who ever gets in a car accident? Are you so bold to claim that you've led a perfect life with nary an incident of misfortune?

Besides, a careful look at the Scripture reveals that God does not hate these people (nor damn them). He does it to "show his wrath" and "make his power known". Nowhere does Paul say that those who suffer his wrath are going to be damned to Hell. Using my life's tragedy, indeed God did show me his wrath and made his power known. And look where it brought me? It made me Saved! I am now a Christian.

Some people whom God loveth he chastizeth because they sin but others who are born all screwed up God hated form the get go. The Bible is clear on that.