Masturbation - Senior Citizen

[bronie]

There appears to be a variation among churches whether the act of masturbation is a sin or not. I have read that many bible scholars have concluded that the Bible scriptures imply that it not a sin. But, that the sexual fantasy associated with the act is adulterous.
How can the act of masturbation be without some form of sexual fantasy?
Consider these three scenarios:

1. My wife helps me masturbate while I watch a video of a female model showing her completely nude body. The model is not performing any sexual act – a condition that my wife sets as a condition for helping me to have sexual satisfaction.
2. I am alone and I masturbate while watching a female nude model not performing a sexual act. I discuss this with my wife and she approves wanting me to have sexual satisfaction only if promise to view a nude model performing no sexual act.
3. I am alone and fanaticize about the great sex my wife and I had when we were younger. Assuming I have nude photos or videos (which I really do not) of my wife when she was younger. I would masturbate watching them.

My wife is a very caring and understanding person. She hopes that I can have a high level of sexual excitement as possible. We both are senior citizens and unfortunately she is unable to have intercourse or experience any sexual arousal activity due to medical reasons. I continue to have strong sexual urges unusual for my age and require frequent sexual satisfaction..
I would greatly appreciate your evaluation of the above scenarios and your thoughts for the appropriate one (ones) in your judgement.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Ask yourself friend, were does the soul enter the human body. As The Bible shows the woman contributes nothing to it so therefor the soul clearly comes with the sperm. This makes none reproductive sex is murder, and therefore a sin.

Your wife and you should think less of your personal pleasure and more about Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What a pervert. This guy sounds like a queer to me.

I hope that anyone interested will take a look at my thread HERE on ways to overcome this sinful habit.

[bronie]

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Pastor Ezekiel:

In your reply to my post (broni - Masturbation Senior Citizen) I am troubled with your statement, "What a pervert. This guy sounds like a queer" How can you reach this conclusion after you have read my post?
After my posting on other church web sites I have concluded that my actions in the scenarios constitutes a sin and I accept that. Though I am not certain about scenario (3). My activity even though it involves masturbation being performed within a marriage, it is difficult for me to accept it as a sin. Since I am unable to "cast my sperm" into my wife due to her physical condition, it is cast upon her body.
I believe your are referring to masturbation in a general case rather that to a specific case as mine.
I do appreciate your responding to my post and your thread directing me to information on the subject of masturbation as viewed by the church.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Pastor Ezekiel:

In your reply to my post (broni - Masturbation Senior Citizen) I am troubled with your statement, "What a pervert. This guy sounds like a queer" How can you reach this conclusion after you have read my post?

Friend,

It is well known that masturbation is a homosexual act. You are having sex with a man; yourself. Just using your wife to masturbate doesn't change it.

[Nobar King]

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After my posting on other church web sites I have concluded that my actions in the scenarios constitutes a sin and I accept that. Though I am not certain about scenario (3). My activity even though it involves masturbation being performed within a marriage, it is difficult for me to accept it as a sin. Since I am unable to "cast my sperm" into my wife due to her physical condition, it is cast upon her body.
I believe your are referring to masturbation in a general case rather that to a specific case as mine.
I do appreciate your responding to my post and your thread directing me to information on the subject of masturbation as viewed by the church.

I see that you already know the answer to your question, but you don't like the answer, do you? Were you hoping to trick our dear Pastor into condoning your self-pleasing activities?

[Don Bozo el Guapo]

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Friend,

It is well known that masturbation is a homosexual act. You are having sex with a man; yourself. Just using your wife to masturbate doesn't change it.

Hola Fruitcake. If a WOMEN were to stir the sushi how could that be considerd a HOMOsexual act ? You gonna be Grand Marshall in the MLK parade again this year ?

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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There appears to be a variation among churches whether the act of masturbation is a sin or not. I have read that many bible scholars have concluded that the Bible scriptures imply that it not a sin. But, that the sexual fantasy associated with the act is adulterous.
How can the act of masturbation be without some form of sexual fantasy?


Consider these three scenarios:

1. My wife helps me masturbate while I watch a video of a female model showing her completely nude body. The model is not performing any sexual act – a condition that my wife sets as a condition for helping me to have sexual satisfaction.
2. I am alone and I masturbate while watching a female nude model not performing a sexual act. I discuss this with my wife and she approves wanting me to have sexual satisfaction only if promise to view a nude model performing no sexual act.
3. I am alone and fanaticize about the great sex my wife and I had when we were younger. Assuming I have nude photos or videos (which I really do not) of my wife when she was younger. I would masturbate watching them.

My wife is a very caring and understanding person. She hopes that I can have a high level of sexual excitement as possible. We both are senior citizens and unfortunately she is unable to have intercourse or experience any sexual arousal activity due to medical reasons. I continue to have strong sexual urges unusual for my age and require frequent sexual satisfaction..
I would greatly appreciate your evaluation of the above scenarios and your thoughts for the appropriate one (ones) in your judgement.

Pastor Ezekiel:

In your reply to my post (broni - Masturbation Senior Citizen) I am troubled with your statement, "What a pervert. This guy sounds like a queer" How can you reach this conclusion after you have read my post?
After my posting on other church web sites I have concluded that my actions in the scenarios constitutes a sin and I accept that. Though I am not certain about scenario (3). My activity even though it involves masturbation being performed within a marriage, it is difficult for me to accept it as a sin. Since I am unable to "cast my sperm" into my wife due to her physical condition, it is cast upon her body.
I believe your are referring to masturbation in a general case rather that to a specific case as mine.
I do appreciate your responding to my post and your thread directing me to information on the subject of masturbation as viewed by the church.

Uhm, you're really, really, gross!

And your wife is a whore.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

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How can you do that Mr. Bronie? How can you selfishly spill your seed and send all those millions of unborn sperm souls straight to HELL?

You are a mass murderer! Think about THAT next time you want to polish your Kojack doll.

[Bob4God]

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Ask yourself this: Did JESUS masturbate? No? Then you can live without it.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Hola Fruitcake. If a WOMEN were to stir the sushi how could that be considerd a HOMOsexual act ? You gonna be Grand Marshall in the MLK parade again this year ?

Oh then tell me, does using a pen or pencil change the end product is writing my guacamole scarfing friend? You don't have to walk across the desert to pick lettuce in California to understand that the tool doesn't change the results. It don't matter if you use your hand or a vibrator or a vacuum cleaner or your wife, masturbation is masturbation.

[bronie]

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BIBLE THUMPIN BLONDE
I have decided to reply to your thread simply because you appeal to me. This is also addressed to all the others who have responded to my original post (Bondie: Masturbation – Senior Citizen).
I apologize for posting on your forum and upsetting you. You will be pleased to know that this reply is my last activity on your forum.
My original post had three scenarios all being hypothetical. Had I followed through with all three I believe that you are all correct in your statements in your replies. I am a murderer, and a very evil person. I do want to confess to you that in the past I did masturbate as under scenario (3) and indeed cast my sperm upon the ground!
But a homosexual – I am not unless I consider what Pastor Ezekiel and others were meaning - that, I must be a homosexual because self masturbation it like performing masturbation on another man. I never thought of that before.
Most men (if born into this world as a normal child) members in the forum have been a homosexual some time in their life. They have done their share of masturbation casting those seeds upon the ground. But I hope that they all have confessed their sin and have cleansed themselves and are now as pure as the driven snow!
Soon in my pursuit of a more Christian life I too will be as pure as the driven snow.
May the Lord guide you safely along your path to God’s kingdom.

[John Bois Ward]

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BIBLE THUMPIN BLONDE
I have decided to reply to your thread simply because you appeal to me. This is also addressed to all the others who have responded to my original post (Bondie: Masturbation – Senior Citizen).
I apologize for posting on your forum and upsetting you. You will be pleased to know that this reply is my last activity on your forum.
My original post had three scenarios all being hypothetical. Had I followed through with all three I believe that you are all correct in your statements in your replies. I am a murderer, and a very evil person.

It is not our statements you need worry about. The Word of Jesus should be your only concern. Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I do want to confess to you that in the past I did masturbate as under scenario (3) and indeed cast my sperm upon the ground!
But a homosexual – I am not unless I consider what Pastor Ezekiel and others were meaning - that, I must be a homosexual because self masturbation it like performing masturbation on another man. I never thought of that before.

You must confess your sins to God, not us. We are not Catholics.

Most men (if born into this world as a normal child) members in the forum have been a homosexual some time in their life. They have done their share of masturbation casting those seeds upon the ground. But I hope that they all have confessed their sin and have cleansed themselves and are now as pure as the driven snow!

The typical response of the secular "christian". Everybody does it, so I'm justified in my sinning.

Soon in my pursuit of a more Christian life I too will be as pure as the driven snow.
May the Lord guide you safely along your path to God’s kingdom

What are you waiting for? You could die this very night. Do you believe that God will accept your intentions over faith and action?

[Bobby-Joe]

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ike performing masturbation on another man. I never thought of that before.
Most men (if born into this world as a normal child) members in the forum have been a homosexual some time in their life. They have done their share of masturbation casting those seeds upon the ground. But I hope that they all have confessed their sin and have cleansed themselves and are now as pure as the driven snow!
Soon in my pursuit of a more Christian life I too will be as pure as the driven snow.
May the Lord guide you safely along your path to God’s kingdom.

Friend,

I all ready there at His Kingdom. He, our hung savior has suffered died on the cross for our sins. I have accepted Jesus into my life and He has washed me clean of sin and I sin no more. This means I have never masturbated. Ever!

Yes, in my sinner days I masturbated three or four times a day to magazine like “Hot Bi-Biker Chicks”, “Busty Mountain Blondes” or “Office She-Manager Sluts” but that is gone. Jesus has washed those sins way with His blood like I washed my own man spunk out of my pants with bleach. It never happened.

No friend I suggest you get you wife’s hand off your unit before you sin again.

[Rocking for JC]

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I hope to Jesus you wash your hands before you put them together to pray. I can't imagine what Jesus would think of you praying with your man stink on your hands sticking together with the sticky corpses of all those lost souls.