[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

You are the biggest piece of shit on the planet. piffle you for striking a defenseless woman. Your wife no less. She trusts you to protect and love her, not harm and shame. You're obviously so insecure with yourself that you have to find some sort of confidence boost, in this case by beating your wife and bragging about it on the internet. If you want to strike someone, come to Boise Idaho and find me. I guarantee you wouldn't make it out as I would pummel the ever living shit out of you until. Pick on someone your own size you worthless woman beating dirt bag. That goes for everyone else on this forum who promote violence against women, homosexuals, and different races. Take your psalms, verses, testaments and whatever else and choke on them.

EQUALITY FOR ALL NO GODS NO MASTERS

Well, atheist scum, we HAVE both a God and the same is our Master, so when he classifies women with property (Exodus 20:17), we are obliged to acknowledge their subservience to us (see also Ephesians 5:23). Sometimes women need to be put in their place.

But I guess, being a potty-mouth atheist, this means nothing to you. What a shame your end will be God bitch-slapping you into Hell.

Pastor Ed

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Take a look at 1 Corinthians 11:3 (hint: it's in my sig).

Just what do you think that means?

Well I think this means you should love your wife as Christ loves God. Corinthians 13:4 details what love is. I think this means that you do not demean and punish your wife in such a manner. If she sins, then it is God who will punish her. If she repents, then she is forgiven by God. It is not then for a husband to punish his wife. It is for the husband to give guidance and pray with his wife so that she may not sin again in the same light. Jesus never hit a woman. In fact, he prayed with women.



Even for gay anal rapists of children? You should be ashamed of your self, sir!



YIC

Sin is sin. As humans we can sometimes judge one sin as 'worse' than another. But in God's eyes sin is sin, whether you steal or rape children you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. James 2:10 gives some guidance on this. We should pray for all sinners.

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Friend, I do not know where you have been for the last 70 years. Was your head stuck in a hole?
A woman is not defenseless. They are not some utterly incapable being that can only sit in a chair staring mindlessly into space. No, a woman has has many valuable and redeeming qualities. Take my own wife for example. She can bake, toss a bale of hay up into a loft, sweep floors and slop pigs all with minimal supervision. Why you insist on degrading the feminine gender with your slander is simply cruel.
As we all now, all living things are basically animals and over time are capable of learning things. When mistakes are noticed, they are pointed out. The question comes to this. How does a person know exactly how to deal with a situation? Many heathens just guess at a solution and this explains why the divorce rate is what it is. No friend, there is a book of answers. It is called the KJV Bible. For ever situation, God has carefully considered how to resolve it. After all, who would know better than the entity that created us! Isn't this fantastic!
Great, now that we know there is a tried and true solution, you need to learn about it. To the 'man on the street', some of what God expects you to do might seem cruel, unfair or in some cases, out right barbaric. Is it your place to second guess God? Could you create everything in just six days? Of course not. God obviously knows what he is talking about. So when He tells you to stone your wife, do it. Both you and your wife will be better off for it.
Mrs. Hutchins never complains, she works six days a week from 4 AM to 10 PM. She rarely makes any mistakes and is able to do just fine with three missing fingers. She learned. Your wife can too. God wants her to be a successful in life. Do not be the one to hold her back.

God does not now tell us to stone our wives. Please read John 8:7.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

God does not now tell us to stone our wives. Please read John 8:7.

Friend, True Christians(tm) are without sin.

YIC

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Friend, True Christians™ are without sin.

YIC

1 John 1:8
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

David in Psalm 19:12 even prays that he is "cleansed from secret faults."

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Yes God washes our sins away that we have already commited. And yes if we follow him completely we do not sin. We however our humans and continue to sin..Christians still sin..but because we have accepted Jesus he washes these sins away. No man is perfect, no man never sins again after accepting Jesus.

[LittleVirginLaurie]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I am only 19 years old and not yet married, but if I learned ANYTHING from 19 years of a remarkable fundamental christian upbringing.. is that it is absolutely NOT my place(as a woman) to disobey or disrespect the man in the household. For my father never let me forget that as a young child! Those who balk at this are not true children of God. I am proud to take the role of a wife because that's what the word says! I pray everyday that I succeed in pleasing my husband in the eyes of the Lord, but if ever I get out of line I sure hope my husband would use force!

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I am only 19 years old and not yet married, but if I learned ANYTHING from 19 years of a remarkable fundamental christian upbringing.. is that it is absolutely NOT my place(as a woman) to disobey or disrespect the man in the household. For my father never let me forget that as a young child! Those who balk at this are not true children of God. I am proud to take the role of a wife because that's what the word says! I pray everyday that I succeed in pleasing my husband in the eyes of the Lord, but if ever I get out of line I sure hope my husband would use force!

Why do you hope your husband will use force? If you commit a sin then surely you should turn to God..and your husband could read and pray with you? Did Jesus ever strike a woman? No, he prayed with sinners, both men and women, so that they might be forgive. He gave them guidance..not punches.

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Friend, True Christians™ are without sin.

YIC

1 John 1:8
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

David in Psalm 19:12 even prays that he is "cleansed from secret faults."

Jesus died for our sins to be cleansed away..that dies not mean we don't continue to sin. We aspire to follow Jesus and lead a sinless life, but we are not perfect that is why we always need God's grace.

[LittleVirginLaurie]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Why do you hope your husband will use force? If you commit a sin then surely you should turn to God..and your husband could read and pray with you? Did Jesus ever strike a woman? No, he prayed with sinners, both men and women, so that they might be forgive. He gave them guidance..not punches.

I hope he uses force because I'm sure whatever the circumstances I would deserve it. My father would use physical force whenever my Mother got out of line and she has grown into a beautiful, obedient christian woman! I hope to be as faithful and loyal of a wife as my mother is!

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I hope he uses force because I'm sure whatever the circumstances I would deserve it. My father would use physical force whenever my Mother got out of line and she has grown into a beautiful, obedient christian woman! I hope to be as faithful and loyal of a wife as my mother is!

You don't feel not using force is an option? I would NEVER use force on my wife. She is a beautiful faithful and loyal Christian woman who has God in her heart. We both can sin...and we both then pray together, read our Bible and seek guidance from God. Its is God who will punish us for our sin if we do not repent. As Christians we have accepted that Jesus has taken the punishment for our sin. That means our sin is cleansed and we shall not be punished for it. ( we therefore do not 'deserve' to be hit) Of course, that means we do sometimes sin..but instead of being punished for it we again ask GOd's forgiveness for it and ask that he helps us overcome that sin and gives us guidance so that we do not repeat that sin.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

You don't feel not using force is an option? I would NEVER use force on my wife. She is a beautiful faithful and loyal Christian woman who has God in her heart. We both can sin...and we both then pray together, read our Bible and seek guidance from God. Its is God who will punish us for our sin if we do not repent. As Christians we have accepted that Jesus has taken the punishment for our sin. That means our sin is cleansed and we shall not be punished for it. ( we therefore do not 'deserve' to be hit) Of course, that means we do sometimes sin..but instead of being punished for it we again ask GOd's forgiveness for it and ask that he helps us overcome that sin and gives us guidance so that we do not repeat that sin.

Women simply don't understand things the way a man does. Would you try to reason a scorpion into behaving like a cat?

Of course not. Women need to be directed away from rebellion against God (need I reminded you of Eve?).

Don't you love your wife enough to stop her rebelling against God and going to Hell?

I just can't figure you out.

YIC

[AdamE135]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Women simply don't understand things the way a man does. Would you try to reason a scorpion into behaving like a cat?

Of course not. Women need to be directed away from rebellion against God (need I reminded you of Eve?).

Don't you love your wife enough to stop her rebelling against God and going to Hell?

I just can't figure you out.

YIC

Did Adam not also bite the apple?? Do men not need directed away from rebellion against God? Eve did not force Adam to bite the apple, he made that choice. God gave men and women free will.

I do not feel hitting a woman will stop her going to hell. But praying and reading the Bible together will help.

I take my lead from JESUS whom never did strike a woman but lead them through advice, guidance and prayer.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Did Adam not also bite the apple?? Do men not need directed away from rebellion against God? Eve did not force Adam to bite the apple, he made that choice. God gave men and women free will.

I do not feel hitting a woman will stop her going to hell. But praying and reading the Bible together will help.

I take my lead from JESUS whom never did strike a woman but lead them through advice, guidance and prayer.

Jesus did far more than hit his wife; who is technically property (like a plough or a slave) anyway. He used His Holy power to tear 42 CHILDREN apart via the gift of bears!

2 Kings 2:23-24:"And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them"

Is killing children with bears not enough for you?

YIC