[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

If you were really an atheist you wouldn't consider that an insult.

If you were really a Christian, you wouldn't have a Muslim looking beard. See how this can go both ways?

I'm smart enough to know when someone is trying to insult me (no matter how pathetic the attempt). I do consider it and insult but I don't find it insulting.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Islam: The Religion of Peace?

(Non-believers must be converted to Islam or destroyed)
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

2:192 But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

(Allah ordains war and all Muslims must fight, whether they want to or not)
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

(If you die fighting for Allah, you will be rewarded in Heaven)
3:157 And what though ye be slain in Allah's way or die therein ? Surely pardon from Allah and mercy are better than all that they amass.

4:74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

(Non-believers should be killed. Convert to Islam or die.)
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

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4:91 Ye will find others who desire that they should have security from you, and security from their own folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.

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There are many more verses if you look in the Qu'ran. However I think these should be sufficient to shed light on Islam's character.

[God>science]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I will admit, there are far more Muslim suicide bombers than Christians (yes, there are Christian suicide bombers) but there are also far more deaths attributed to the Nazis then to Al Qaeda. And before you tell me that the nazis weren't "True Christians", you, yourself, are generalizing all Muslims so I will do the same with Christians.

He asked you to name one Christian suicide bomber, yet you can't and continue to make assertions without evidence. Typical atheist swine.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

If you were really a Christian, you wouldn't have a Muslim looking beard. See how this can go both ways?

I'm smart enough to know when someone is trying to insult me (no matter how pathetic the attempt). I do consider it and insult but I don't find it insulting.

Are you on drugs? If you're not insulted by it it's not an insult. And also, having a beard is not the same thing as being a failure of an atheist. My beard makes me look wise and distinguished.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I will admit, there are far more Muslim suicide bombers than Christians (yes, there are Christian suicide bombers) but there are also far more deaths attributed to the Nazis then to Al Qaeda. And before you tell me that the nazis weren't "True Christians", you, yourself, are generalizing all Muslims so I will do the same with Christians.

There has never been a soingle bombing or other terrorist activity associated with any follower of the KJV1611 Bible.

In your undeveloped mind, you are trying to worm out of a situation you jumped in to.
1) The thread is about video games, you twisted it to be about your religion
2) You make statements, when called on your own words, you change them, time and time again.

Child, you seem like a good albeit, extremely misguided person. Because of that, I have spent some time on you. But until you snap out of it and get with the program and stop being so insolent, there is little I can do. You cannot have a conversation with an adult if you think like a child unless you expect a child like response.

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Islam: The Religion of Peace?

(Non-believers must be converted to Islam or destroyed)
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

Don't attack other people, only defend yourself

2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Again, don't attack, only defend.

2:192 But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Allah forgives your enimies

2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

Don't harm those who are innocent

(Allah ordains war and all Muslims must fight, whether they want to or not)
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.


(If you die fighting for Allah, you will be rewarded in Heaven)
3:157 And what though ye be slain in Allah's way or die therein ? Surely pardon from Allah and mercy are better than all that they amass.

So American soldiers don't go to heaven?

4:74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

Allah means god. So basically, destroy those who fight god.

(Non-believers should be killed. Convert to Islam or die.)
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

The first commandment.

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4:91 Ye will find others who desire that they should have security from you, and security from their own folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.


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There are many more verses if you look in the Qu'ran. However I think these should be sufficient to shed light on Islam's character.

These teachings are similar to Christian teachings. Also, Allah means god. The same god that you worship.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

These teachings are similar to Christian teachings.

American English is similar to Scottish by your logic.

Also, Allah means god.

"Free Candy' on the side of a van does not mean the driver is a good guy.

The same god that you worship.

Not the same God, are you insane??????????????????????

Sorry.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

These teachings are similar to Christian teachings. Also, Allah means god. The same god that you worship.

Oh really now? Can you point to a Bible verse where God specifically commands us to convert people to Christianity or kill them if they do not?

Allah is not the same god. Our God is triune, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Their god is a moon god. Our God is real. Theirs is fictional. Our God tells us to do AB&C. Theirs tell them to do XY&Z.

Your ignorance of religions is appalling.

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

There has never been a soingle bombing or other terrorist activity associated with any follower of the KJV1611 Bible.

In your undeveloped mind, you are trying to worm out of a situation you jumped in to.
1) The thread is about video games, you twisted it to be about your religion
2) You make statements, when called on your own words, you change them, time and time again.

Child, you seem like a good albeit, extremely misguided person. Because of that, I have spent some time on you. But until you snap out of it and get with the program and stop being so insolent, there is little I can do. You cannot have a conversation with an adult if you think like a child unless you expect a child like response.

1) I was commenting on another post, not the OP.
2) You have been taking what I say out of context if not completely ignoring my point so I am forced to further explain myself to you.

And you don't need to be condescending. I'm not a child, I'm an Iraq war vet who's seen my fair share of hardship but still realize there is no god. I have killed Muslims but only extremists. The Iraqi civilians I have talked to are very simple, nice, people.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Of course they don't tell you what they really think of you.

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh really now? Can you point to a Bible verse where God specifically commands us to convert people to Christianity or kill them if they do not?

Allah is not the same god. Our God is triune, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Their god is a moon god. Our God is real. Theirs is fictional. Our God tells us to do AB&C. Theirs tell them to do XY&Z.

Your ignorance of religions is appalling.

It is the same god. The Muslims just don't believe Jesus was god, just a man.

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Of course they don't tell you what they really think of you.

You have no understanding of what it was like. I have seen children killed by our bombs. Why didn't god protect them?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

It is the same god. The Muslims just don't believe Jesus was god, just a man.

How is it the same God? If we believe that Jesus is God and they believe Jesus is just a Man, obviously we have a different God.

To look at it another way: Dave believes Elvis Presley is God. He worships Elvis and prays to him. Bob thinks Elvis was a great singer, but no God. He thinks Elvis is a man.

You're telling me that Dave and Bob have the same religion then?

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

How is it the same God? If we believe that Jesus is God and they believe Jesus is just a Man, obviously we have a different God.

To look at it another way: Dave believes Elvis Presley is God. He worships Elvis and prays to him. Bob thinks Elvis was a great singer, but no God. He thinks Elvis is a man.

You're telling me that Dave and Bob have the same religion then?

You believe god came to earth as jesus. Muslims don't believe he did.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You have no understanding of what it was like. I have seen children killed by our bombs. Why didn't god protect them?

Because they were not True Christians™.

I have seen Americans killed by thiers. These Americans, mostly good people, were not True Christians™. My own fa0hter was in the TWC that day as well as my wife's brother in law and his son. They all left the building at 9AM and got far away. They are True Christians.