[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Hutchins, you're a good guy, but I'm afraid that you are lost if you agree that a computer simulation will damn kids to hell...

Pray = figure of speech...

Of course I am a good guy, All True Christians(tm) are as perfect as a mortal can be. God tolerates us.
Regarding the game (and nearly all games) they are 'teasers' designed to woo you into the bosom of Satan. You start out playing what appears to be an innocent game. Deep within the code, there are mnemonics designed to enthrall you and give you the urge to get more into the game. Just like with the dope all you kids do, it does not take long before you are hooked, wondering where your next pot fix is going to come from. Some ones kindly grandmother offers you her cookies and in a drugged out stupor, you rape her and steal her social security check. Now, if you think it is fine to rape your grandmother, then I do not know what we can do to help you. If on the other hand, you want to protect the virginity of your sweet grandma-ma, then drop the pointless defense of Satan's tools and lets talk Bible!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Hutchins, you're a good guy, but I'm afraid that you are lost if you agree that a computer simulation will damn kids to hell...

Obviously you have never read the Bible or paid the slightest attention to the words of Jesus, James. He made it crystal clear that just thinking about disobeying God is the same thing as doing it:

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

That's right, thought crimes are sins punishable by Hellfire.

Still convinced that a videogame that encourages kids to fantasize about sex and murder and witchcraft isn't a pathway to Hell?

Pray = figure of speech...

No, "pray" is a well-defined verb. It is not a figure of speech. To whom will you pray? Cthulhu, probably.

[marxism]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

It has come to my attention through the recent hoopla of the "Oblivion" thread that the same company has created an equally disturbing game called Fallout 3. Without a doubt, the people at Bethesda Softworks (creators of Oblivion and Fallout 3) seem intent on corrupting our youth with introducing anti-Biblical concepts, violence, sexuality, and law-breaking. I have just reviewed the game, and I will now provide a fair and balanced assessment of this poor excuse for a "game".



The setting takes place in and around Washington D.C. after a nuclear war. I might as well open by saying the only good thing that this game offers is that it rightly attributes communism to destruction. In the game's story, China has launched nuclear strikes and destroyed America. While this is much applauded (not the destruction of America, but showing that Communists are evil people), that is where the positive nature of this game ends. Here are just some brief tidbits about what this game contains...

• It is extremely violent. It features various types of sub-machine guns, nuclear weapons, rocket launchers, knives, flamethrowers, various melee weapons, and other instruments of destruction. You can't play this game without killing hundreds of people.
• There is a lot of cursing in this game, with the A-word, S-word, and F-word.
• There is a "perk", if you want to call it that, called "Bloody Mess" which makes killing people even more graphic and gruesome. Your enemies explode in a mess of blood and guts.
• There is another "perk" called Mister Sandman that allows you to kill innocent people in their sleep.
• The worst "perk" of all is the aptly-named Cannibal that allows you to literally devour corpses. I'm not making this up!
• There are quests where you are assigned to kill people. One is even so blatantly called "You gotta shoot 'em in the head" where you are told to do just so.
• You can blow up an innocent town with an atom bomb. After obliverating these people, you are rewarded with money and a place to stay. What kind of message is this giving our children?
• There is prostitution in the game. If you go to a place called Moriarty's Bar, there is a woman who offers to fornicate with you for a price. The player is able to have sexual relations with this woman.
  1st Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
• You can pretty much kill whoever you want, even good guys. The game makes no consequence for your actions. At most, you have to leave a town for three days, but it allows teenagers to live out "spree killer" and "school shooting" fantasies.
• The player can create their own homemade weapons like a "dart gun" and "bottlecap mine" which encourage domestic terrorist activities. How many kids might be inspired to make their own pipe bombs after playing this game?
• There are beings called "ghouls", which appear to be some kind of zombie demon out of a horror movie. While many ghouls are bad, some are considered "good guys".
• It quotes the Bible out of context. One of the recurring themes revolves around Revelations 21:6..."And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." However instead of pointing out that this verse revolves around the Lord and that He alone can provide eternal life, this game misconstrues it and takes it to mean that we can make water-purifying systems. It is a mockery of the Bible!
• There is a group of misbehaving brats in a town called Little Lamplight. They do anything they want and disrespect adults. There is nothing in the game that can correct this behavior even though the Bible tells us how to deal with such rebellious imps: Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Nowhere in the game can you punish these children for their behavior. It tells kids they can act however they want with impugnity.
• You are able to pick locks and it's a skill. You can basically break into other people's doors, safes, and other secure places and steal what you want at whim.
• It also promotes Computer Hacking. Through the skill "Computers", the player can hack another person's private computer, even though hacking is a federal crime.
• Alcohol is available in this game through such forms as whiskey.
• Drug use is promoted. There is a syringe called "Med X" (Heroin), a drug called "Psycho" (Methamphetamine) and "Buffout" (Steroids). Taking these drugs makes you a stronger player, so drugs are encouraged in this game. Even though you can get addicted to the drugs, you can always just see a doctor to cure the addiction. Nowhere in this game is there any Christian pastor to help you overcome addiction through faith in Jesus Christ. Nowhere!
• There is a false, heretical religion called "The Church of Atom". They believes that an atom bomb is a god or something. This may lead players to believe in this bizarre cult. Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images."
• The only other church is called "St. Monica's Church". We know Catholics aren't really Christians and this game pushes Catholicism onto players instead of Baptists who believe in the 1611 KJV Bible.

I could go on and on, but I think you can realize what this whole game is about. There are no redeeming qualities in this game, no exhortation of Christian values, but just stuff that would make Satan happy. It should come as no surprise that this game is very popular and many Oblivion players also play this game as well.

Any True Christian™ parent would not want this game around their children. It is an evil influence. Paul warns us to seperate ourselves from such iniquity...



Indeed this game is truly an unfruitful work of darkness. You cannot be a Christian and play this game since you are going against the Bible, as I have shown in the above quotes.

Friends, in my last post warning about the dangers of Oblivion, I advocated taking a stand against the stores selling that demonic game, but I feel considering Bethesda has been putting out multiple games, the only rational stand is to call for the end of Bethesda Softworks. These people should be held accountable to the law (both God's and secular) and should not be able to produce video games anymore. I encourage every Bible-believing True Christian™ reading this to let your congressman know about what is going on in this Satanic organization. Bethesda feels they can put out these sinful games at their own will, but they must be stopped.

I will pray that our cause will prevail. I will pray that the Lord will put Bethesda Softworks out of business. I will pray that these criminals serve time behind bars for corrupting our youth. In Jesus' name, I pray.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Jim Osborne

Enclosed is a screenshot of this game.

I hope you realize that this game is intended for adults who are of the age of 17 and over. If an adult buys this game for their children they are bad parents. This game is nothing worse than whats in the bible. In the bible thousands of people die. There is rape and murder. This game doesn't hurt anyone it's fun and should not be taken seriously. It's only purpose is for recreation for adults. Children are not intended to play this game nor are they legally allowed to buy this game. Praying for Jesus to harm others is wrong and you should be ashamed of your self. Jesus only brings peace and good will to others. God per-determined everything on this earth. Saying this game is against the bible is wrong because god already planned for this game to happen. Going against gods will is biggest sin. How can you disrespect god who has done nothing but help humans?

[USMCdex]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

I am a 10 year Marine with the united states, i served in 4 deployments and have seen combat various times. I have to say this: I fought for the right for freedoms, but Christians, your rights end where anothers begin. All I've read on these forums are nothing but hate mongering and bigotry. You guys say that EVERYTHING is an abomination to god. My good friend was a firm believer in God,went to the chaplain almost daily and prayed every chance he could get, he stepped on an IED and was killed on impact. God wasn't there for him, If your god is true then he wouldn't have even allowed these games to be put out. Furthermore, This is the land of the free, which means free enterprise,just because YOU don't like a game doesn't mean its terrible, you guys have terrible interpretations of them and i think any argument you bring involving games is extremely biased and poor research has been done. You guys disapprove of any free thinking or factual evidence, stop saying everything is the devils work, if you don't want your kids to play the game i have an idea, DON'T BUY IT. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean you have make other people pay.
Sincerely
An atheist which killed multiple people in which you hate!
p.s you say hatemongers are condemned? Then i think a lot of you are screwed =)

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

I am a 10 year Marine with the united states, i served in 4 deployments and have seen combat various times.

Yes, playing Call of Duty surely counts as service in some other forums.

Christians, your rights end where anothers begin.

I'm sure that sounded awesome in your head, but makes zero sense.

All I've read on these forums are nothing but hate mongering and bigotry. You guys say that EVERYTHING is an abomination to god.

Stop being so stupid. We do not say everything. We are 100% biblically correct, only relaying word of God as it is. If something is abomination to God in the bible, then it is. Feel free to prove us wrong.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

I hope you realize that this game is intended for adults who are of the age of 17 and over. If an adult buys this game for their children they are bad parents. This game is nothing worse than whats in the bible. In the bible thousands of people die. There is rape and murder.

The rape and murder in the Bible is okay, because God commands it. Otherwise it would be murder.

Also, this game has magic and witchcraft galore. Since you claim to know what is in the Bible, why don't you tell us what it says about witches and magic?

This game doesn't hurt anyone it's fun and should not be taken seriously. It's only purpose is for recreation for adults. Children are not intended to play this game nor are they legally allowed to buy this game.

Because that ever stopped kids from getting things they shouldn't have.
You really are a naive fellow.

Praying for Jesus to harm others is wrong and you should be ashamed of your self.

Of course it's okay. David made many intercessory prayers against his and God's enemies. Have a look at one of many.

Psalm 58
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Lord.
7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.
8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
9 Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.
10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

Jesus only brings peace and good will to others.

Friend, have you ever read the Bible?

Matthew 10:34-35 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

God per-determined everything on this earth. Saying this game is against the bible is wrong because god already planned for this game to happen. Going against gods will is biggest sin. How can you disrespect god who has done nothing but help humans?

You are saying that God predetermined that His people would turn away from Him over and over again, so He would be forced to destroy them repeatedly?

What sort of God do you worship? It sounds like a real monster to me.

[USMCdex]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Your right. You make so much sense!
You have sucessfully converted me, the facts are un-deniable!
LORD BLESS ME AND FORGIVE ME FOR THE COUNTLESS MUJAHIDEEN I HAVE SLAIN!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Your right. You make so much sense!
You have sucessfully converted me, the facts are un-deniable!
LORD BLESS ME AND FORGIVE ME FOR THE COUNTLESS MUJAHIDEEN I HAVE SLAIN!

Oh praise Jesus! Oh thank you, Lord for delivering another one up! This sinner has heard the call and we praise you for it, LORD!

[USMCdex]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

After posting in this forum i felt this great overwhelming power and I heard the voice beckoning me. This moment has truly changed my life. Praise the Lord our Savoir!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

After posting in this forum i felt this great overwhelming power and I heard the voice beckoning me. This moment has truly changed my life. Praise the Lord our Savoir!

Just like Paul on the Damascus road.

[USMCdex]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

I know! God has instilled me with great knowledge over the bible and his word!(KJV of course!)

[Jedidiah Birch]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

Thank you so much Reverend for enlightening me to this foul game. My oldest and first born was in the mall yesterday and we went into the game store there and he wanted this game. The man in the weird sexual outfit on the cover alerted me. Praise be upon you and the lord. It will be a cold day in hell before I let my 17 year old put his hands on such drug supporting trash.

[michaelrea]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

How dare you people dishonor a Marine's 10 years of service by insinuating that he just spent that time playing Call of Duty.

I also find it disturbing that, according to your logic, God only loves people who fall under a trademark.

Contrary to "popular" belief, your views ARE fringe. Upon reading all of your fear mongering, deplorable speech, reasonable people would find their skin crawling.

I am by no means anti-religion, but I am against people who use it as a means to spread hate.

I also find it incredibly offensive how there is a smiley showing a blatant racist/ignorant depiction of Muslims as terrorists, and their subsequent explosive death.

What originally brought me here, however, was your review of Fallout 3. Just because it doesn't conform to your extreme, literal interpretation on ONE ideology, doesn't make it a bad game. You said you were going to write a fair-and-balanced review? Please, don't fool yourself.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

How dare you people dishonor a Marine's 10 years of service by insinuating that he just spent that time playing Call of Duty.

Why shouldn't I dare? Text he wrote says in big red letters "Warning, gamer tard!". Besides, I say same to you that I said to this PC-marine. Feel free to show how anything we say about God or scripture is biblically incorrect.

Go on, I DARE you.

[michaelrea]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" creators

I'm not saying anything about what you said is biblically incorrect. In that, though, it presupposes that everything you say IS correct, and I'm quite sure that there is a prevailing majority within the the rest of the Christian community that would agree with me that what you people espouse is completely asinine and hateful.