[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Let me point out something once more in case you missed it; the site says both God and Jesus, but I've highlighted some things for you.


Are you saying that you don't worship either? In that case, you're not a "True Christian". If you do worship either, then you would know this to be against the Decalogue.

Are you a retarded, sir? He's not saying the Lord isn't pictured in the game. He's saying we don't pray to the picture!

[Apollyon]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Are you a retarded, sir? He's not saying the Lord isn't pictured in the game. He's saying we don't pray to the picture!

A 'retarded'? I don't know what a 'retarded' is. I do know what a 'retard' is, and from what I see, I'm quite sure I'm not one of them.

And you do have a point, and while I could quote the definition of idol (much to Nobar King's dismay), I figured that this would be enough:

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image."

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

A 'retarded'? I don't know what a 'retarded' is. I do know what a 'retard' is, and from what I see, I'm quite sure I'm not one of them.

And you do have a point, and while I could quote the definition of idol (much to Nobar King's dismay), I figured that this would be enough:

And how is a picture graven dummy butt? You do know the difference between 2d and 3d. If Jesus didn't want any pictures of Him He wouldn't have let any of them be taken.

What are you a Muslim to come up with something this stupid?

[Apollyon]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

And how is a picture graven dummy butt? You do know the difference between 2d and 3d. If Jesus didn't want any pictures of Him He wouldn't have let any of them be taken.

What are you a Muslim to come up with something this stupid?

If God didn't want any one to be murdered, then he would've made it so.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You children amaze me. You play a game that glorifies death and dismemberment. No matter the method, being immersed in it is bad for your mind and soul.
You know what occurs to soldiers in a war, how the horrors affect them. Some never are able to recover.
You play these games and your soul becomes calloused. The rare times you deal with the real world, you are less caring. In extreme situations, some see no difference between these games of destruction and real life. A few even act out.
All the time spent damaging your 'hearts' that could be spent improving your lives, let alone some you love.

You have two choices
1) Play these games, ignore reality, interact with pixels.
2) Get outside, do something wholesome, interact with actual live people.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

If God didn't want any one to be murdered, then he would've made it so.

And? That is a point The Bible frequently makes. Nothing happens in this world without God's sufferance. But I fail to see what this has to do with Jesus sitting for those pictures like He did.

[Apollyon]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You children amaze me. You play a game that glorifies death and dismemberment. No matter the method, being immersed in it is bad for your mind and soul.
You know what occurs to soldiers in a war, how the horrors affect them. Some never are able to recover.
You play these games and your soul becomes calloused. The rare times you deal with the real world, you are less caring. In extreme situations, some see no difference between these games of destruction and real life. A few even act out.
All the time spent damaging your 'hearts' that could be spent improving your lives, let alone some you love.

You have two choices
1) Play these games, ignore reality, interact with pixels.
2) Get outside, do something wholesome, interact with actual live people.

I, good sir, do both. I've played quite a number of 'violent' games, and I am not out to kill anyone. People who have mental problems will not be able to see differences between the virtual and reality, and should be helped by a psychiatrist. I also make sure to get exercise at least once a day, and go to social events such as neighbor-hosted parties. Playing a 'violent' game does not an evil person make; otherwise, there would be at least 300 million evil people in the world, not including those already there.

[Apollyon]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

And? That is a point The Bible frequently makes. Nothing happens in this world without God's sufferance. But I fail to see what this has to do with Jesus sitting for those pictures like He did.

Of course you would miss the point. Go figure.

I'm simply saying pointing out a fallacy; the God's face deal is against the 2nd commandment, but you don't see God, Jesus, or anyone sacred stopping it.

[a european]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you think a game were you can get hacked copies of were you can sodomize, dismember and eat the corpses of those people you just murdered is funny? What are you European or something?

I am european and I find this offensive. I never eat the people I kill, thats just barbaric.

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

You children amaze me. You play a game that glorifies death and dismemberment. No matter the method, being immersed in it is bad for your mind and soul.
You know what occurs to soldiers in a war, how the horrors affect them. Some never are able to recover.
You play these games and your soul becomes calloused. The rare times you deal with the real world, you are less caring. In extreme situations, some see no difference between these games of destruction and real life. A few even act out.
All the time spent damaging your 'hearts' that could be spent improving your lives, let alone some you love.

I need to point out good sir, that I am no child, and I have played this game. In point of fact, not just children play Video Games anymore. Adults can sit down and enjoy games nowadays, especially games such as Fallout, which is aimed at an older audience.
I agree children should not be playing these games, however the blame is not on the developers or publishers, it is on the retails stores that sell these games to those underage, and the parents not paying attention to what they are getting there kids/what there kids are playing.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I, good sir, do both. I've played quite a number of 'violent' games, and I am not out to kill anyone.

Yet.
Your obsession states a deep rooted issue

People who have mental problems will not be able to see differences between the virtual and reality, and should be helped by a psychiatrist.

The problem, is, crazies do not think they are crazy. I volunteered in a mental hospital years ago (admissions, I could not stomach 'being in the back' for too long). Almost all of the people being admitted thought there was nothing wrong with them. A few thought they were going nuts but were just upset and they typically were gone within a week. The others were in for months, years, some forever.

I also make sure to get exercise at least once a day, and go to social events such as neighbor-hosted parties.

That still is insufficient to be a well rounded person. I know you think it is plenty, but trust me, I have seen a lot, and you need to have reality in your life. A game should be played for a few hours (2 to 4) a week at most.

Playing a 'violent' game does not an evil person make; otherwise, there would be at least 300 million evil people in the world, not including those already there.

In some cases, it does, in many other, they are merely ticking time bombs. You know there have been quite a few horrific scenes played out in real life that either the actions identically mimicked those of a game or investigation showed, a game was directly related. In most cases, the games gave a live person a sense of bravado that they could 'be like the guy in the game'.

Son, it is not just games that do this. Look at Hollywood actors of a while ago. Remember the story of the guy who played the original Superman? He 'became the part' in real life and died. He was too immersed.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I need to point out good sir, that I am no child, and I have played this game. In point of fact, not just children play Video Games anymore. Adults can sit down and enjoy games nowadays, especially games such as Fallout, which is aimed at an older audience.
I agree children should not be playing these games, however the blame is not on the developers or publishers, it is on the retails stores that sell these games to those underage, and the parents not paying attention to what they are getting there kids/what there kids are playing.

Age alone does not a child make.

Obsessive game play is childish.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Of course you would miss the point. Go figure.

I'm simply saying pointing out a fallacy; the God's face deal is against the 2nd commandment, but you don't see God, Jesus, or anyone sacred stopping it.

No it is not. Making a statue and saying God is in it and worshiping it is against God's law You really are utterly witless if you think you are very first person in over 2,000 years to come up with this idea. Like I said.; Jesus sat for portraits so obviously Jesus felt images of themselves didn't counter His own freaking law.

Or are going to tell me Jesus is wrong?

[CyanideJay]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Age alone does not a child make.

Obsessive game play is childish.

Does having a Hobbie make one 'Childish'? Just because you yourself cannot understand or see the draw to Video Games does not make it 'Childish'.
Obsessing over anything is childish, in many respects....

[Apollyon]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Yet.
Your obsession states a deep rooted issue

I'll call you in 50 years and tell you I'm doing fine. How about that? I could say an obsession in Christ is an issue too (Zealotry), but you wouldn't like that, would you?[/quote

To each his own.

The problem, is, crazies do not think they are crazy. I volunteered in a mental hospital years ago (admissions, I could not stomach 'being in the back' for too long. Almost of the people being admitted thought there was nothing wrong with them. A few thought they were going nuts but were just upset and they typically were gone within a week. The others were in for months, years, some forever.

True, crazies will not think so, but you are missing the point like many others here.

The still is insufficient to be a well rounded person. I know you think it is plenty, but trust me, I have seen a lot, and you need to have reality in your life. A game should be played for a few hours (2 to 4) a week at most.

Really? I have quite a nice social life, whether it be outside or inside, or on the internet. I've got friends from around the world, and friends locally as well. I believe in them, and they believe in me, and I know that my life is as great as I want it to be.

You may have seen a lot, but I've learned a lot, experienced a lot, lived a lot, and taught a lot. Please, don't think you're any better because you have a different view on how life should be lived.

In some cases, it does, in many other, they are merely ticking time bombs. You know there have been quite a few horrific scenes played out in real life that either the actions identically mimicked those of a game or investigation showed, a game was directly related. In most cases, the games gave a live person a sense of bravado that they could 'be like the guy in the game'.

Really, now. It's hard not to mimic a first person shooter when they involve guns. Of course they'll be INDIRECTLY related, but not directly related. You don't see someone dressing up as Master Chief (from the Halo series, if you didn't know) and running over to a mall to shoot everyone. And by the by, shooting games don't train you how to use guns.

Son, it is not just games that do this. Look at Hollywood actors of a while ago. Remember the story of the guy who played the original Superman? He 'became the part' in real life and died. He was too immersed.

One, I am older than you think. Two, he never 'became the part' in real life. He died from cardiac arrest, after facing problems from being thrown off of a horse.

No it is not. Making a statue and saying God is in it and worshiping it is against God's law You really are utterly witless if you think you are very first person in over 2,000 years to come up with this idea. Like I said.; Jesus sat for portraits so obviously Jesus felt images of themselves didn't counter His own freaking law.

Or are going to tell me Jesus is wrong?

I won't tell you Jesus is wrong. I will tell you you are wrong, however. And Jesus never 'sat' for portraits; they are just images of what the artist believes him to look like. And mind you, I am full of wit, unlike you, it seems.