[JosephBeachem]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Apparently you really burnt Brother Nobar and it will take time for the wound to heal.

Now run off, make amends, come back when you are done. Scoot!

I told you, sir, I believe in God.

I came back here to Apologize for insulting everyone, and trying to remove this website. I'm over that, because I've seen the light. I've read KJV1611.

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I told you, sir, I believe in God.

I came back here to Apologize for insulting everyone, and trying to remove this website. I'm over that, because I've seen the light. I've read KJV1611.

Jesus sees thru your lies.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Thanks for forwarding the DOF file, Brother Nobar. I fully understand and know what to do.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I told you, sir, I believe in God.

I came back here to Apologize for insulting everyone, and trying to remove this website. I'm over that, because I've seen the light. I've read KJV1611.

Son, you're 13 years old. I doubt that you've read anything but comic books. Come back when you hit 18, assuming Jesus allows you to live that long.

[Soulsuke]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Well, I'm new to this forum, but this really sounds... Weird. First off, I'd like to apologize for any gramamtical/logical error in what I'm about to write... It's pretty late her eright now (2:57 am), and english isn't my mother language...
Are you people seriously so worried about a video game?
I'm not sure about the other people around here, but I was risen by a mother that never left me alone with television or videogames when I was a kid. She taught me what was 'good' and what was 'bad', what was real and what was not. She tutored me, as every parent should, and thanks to her I'm a sane person, able to understand what should and what shouldn't be done in real life. If a kid plays a video game and then commits a murder, it's too easy to just blame the video game. Rage doesn't build up just because of that. Probably the kid had a lot of rage inside him, and nobody taught him how to vent it out in costructive ways. If something, yes, the game 'taught' him to vent out anger hurting people... But only because nobody else did it before. Of course, I wouldn't blame the kid's parents... I'd blame EVERYBODY who didn't taught the kid something as useful as being able to vent out rage (which is something that every human being feels) without hurting other people, and who didn't even see the rage building up in the kid. It's just too easy to blame video games, tv, and other things around us... The truth is, we should teach our kids how to live in this world without hurting other people, not just blaming what is showing them what we try to hide! You can't teach somebody what is 'good', without showing them what is 'bad', for when you define something as 'good', you automatically define something that isn't as good as it, so that it'd be 'bad' compared to the 'good' thing. Besides, tell me, if nobody ever shown you what evil is, but only taught you about good, how would you react when you'd face evil? You'd be lost, and you'd probably do something of extremely stupid. That's what I was referring to before.
I'd also like to say that to be influenced by a videogame, or a tv show, ora book, you have to either have a weak mind, or being unable to understand what's real and what's fiction. And, in the latter case, it's a fault of whoever helped you to become the person you are. Kids should never being left alone with stuff that couldinfluence them, so that when they'll grow up, they'll know well enough the difference between rela life and fiction to be influenced by videogames and such.
Now, I'd like to ask you people: what is a murder? Of course, thinking about killing a friend is a bad thing, because he's a living being... But what about characters in a computer game? They aren't real, they aren't alive... So could you say that killing them is a murder? Could you say that stabbing somebody in a computer game is violence, since it wouldn't even feel the pain, or be hurt by it... Or wouldn't even realize what's happening to him, because he can't think at all? Because it isn't alive? If so, would you say that it's violence punching a rock? Because, seriously, it's the same exact thing. Violence in video games isn't real violence, for nothing violent happens. For nobody gets hurt, for it's something that never existed in the real world. And, as I said before, it wouldn't affect a person that can distinguish between reality and fiction.
Now, even if I know I'll be attacked for this, I'd rather quote a few phrases from the Tao The Ching:
"When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of chaos."
I'd like you to note how, right now, we lost goodness, for most people, including probably most of you, aren't really 'good'. For, goodness means doing good deeds without wanting anything back. It means helping others jsut because you want to help them. All i see now, is morality. If you're good or not, you aren't able to make people around you be good, or wanting to be good. You probably aren't good yourselves aswell, so you're using morality. Trying to condamn what you think isn't good, to try to force morally other people to be good. Of course, if you'll keep going this way, morality will be lost aswell. You'll rely on laws, trying to banish what you first condamned to 'preserve the goodness'... And doing so, you'll reach the chaos. You're probably all angered because you realize that you aren't as good as you'd like to be, or that you can't make othe rpeople think and act like you just being gentle with them... Then the anger keeps growing, making you think that you have to impose yourself to save the others, choosing for them (which, if I ain't wrong, no human being should do but... Well, I'm not relaly in the mood of quoting the Bible, so look it up yourself)... But you don't realzie that anger only causes more anger.
Allright, I'm done. I'm really looking forward to read your answers to this, but... Just a note: don't call me heretic or stuff like that, I really hate it... Besides, think that if you call me an heretic because I'm a taoist, I can cal you heretics because you're Christians.

[A Free Mind]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

What have caused most deaths on this world with nothing even close to compare the size in numbers?

Religion! (christianity stands for the most part)

I believe in the free mind, a human should have the right to do what he wants to do as long as it dosn't goes out over another human. We do have the strenght to go our own path, not get pulled in "the right way" by something you all call faith.

And dudes, by being a'n atheist dont meen your a; rapeist, canibal or massmurderer and everything else i've read in here.

I really dont get the argument: Its better to take your kids out and teach them how to use a gun on animals?! How bout NOT teaching the how to use a gun at all?

Treat your neighbor as you want to be treated!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

What have caused most deaths on this world with nothing even close to compare the size in numbers?

Religion! (christianity stands for the most part)

I agree that false Christians have done a lot of slaughtering, particularily the Papist Church. The Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. all done at the whim of the mary-worshipping Pope. But I dare you to find a single instance in human history where a True Christian(tm) has killed anyone!

I believe in the free mind, a human should have the right to do what he wants to do as long as it dosn't goes out over another human. We do have the strenght to go our own path, not get pulled in "the right way" by something you all call faith.

The Bible tells us about people like you who make up their own rules...

Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

And dudes, by being a'n atheist dont meen your a; rapeist, canibal or massmurderer and everything else i've read in here.

I guess it means they're just really horrible spellers then?

I really dont get the argument: Its better to take your kids out and teach them how to use a gun on animals?! How bout NOT teaching the how to use a gun at all?

Actually hunting teaches children great respect for firearms. They learn gun safety, the mechanics of the gun, and it instills in them a reverence for the power of guns. Kids learn to realize just how powerful a gun is and what kind of damage it can do to another human being.

Video games, on the other hand, promote firearms in a haphazard fashion. They teach them that shooting people is "a game". Kids start to have make-believe notions about firearms.

[Talitha]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

What have caused most deaths on this world with nothing even close to compare the size in numbers?

People.

Religion! (christianity stands for the most part)

Not true

I believe in the free mind, a human should have the right to do what he wants to do as long as it dosn't goes out over another human. We do have the strenght to go our own path, not get pulled in "the right way" by something you all call faith.

Be careful your mind doesn't become so free that your Brains drop out

And dudes, by being a'n atheist dont meen your a; rapeist, canibal or massmurderer and everything else i've read in here.

That's not what our Pastor tells us. Our Pastors don't lie.

I really dont get the argument: Its better to take your kids out and teach them how to use a gun on animals?! How bout NOT teaching the how to use a gun at all?

Then how do our children defend themselves against darkies, Mudslimes and rampant atheists?

Treat your neighbor as you want to be treated!

I do. My neighbors are all True Christians™

[Nekedjig]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Then how do our children defend themselves against darkies, Mudslimes and rampant atheists?

Ok.. now I'm really scared. Hoping that i never meet you with a gun on your side..

[Concordia]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh dear...

Well, it's clearly that you people are brainwashed. I'm not judging you for it, it isn't your fault, I guess. Some guy on page 1 said that he owned a gunshop, and that guns don't kill people, but video games do? That's just insane! As a video gamer myself, and yes, I've played this 'oh so sinful game', I know that I didn't bought a gun after playing this game and started to shoot people. Come on. Nobody does this. It's more logical that people who devote their live to this kind of stuff (religion, cults, and yes, also politics) end up being just weird.

But you don't care about this, as you have your own interpretation of live. Let me ask this then: If you're God is as devoted to our (or your lives) as you say, why would He allow video games to exist? And if you say if He would want to test you, why would He do that? Why would He want that people can go into heaven? Does He even care about that? Does He get satisfaction out of it? I guess what I want to say is, that if you believe in Christian values, that's ok to me, but don't freak out about it...

Sincerly,
According to you, just another simple mind

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So you think a game were you can get hacked copies of were you can sodomize, dismember and eat the corpses of those people you just murdered is funny? What are you European or something?

So you think having a klansman as your avatar is funny? What are you ignorant or something?

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Oh dear...

Well, it's clearly that you people are brainwashed. I'm not judging you for it, it isn't your fault, I guess. Some guy on page 1 said that he owned a gunshop, and that guns don't kill people, but video games do? That's just insane! As a video gamer myself, and yes, I've played this 'oh so sinful game', I know that I didn't bought a gun after playing this game and started to shoot people. Come on. Nobody does this. It's more logical that people who devote their live to this kind of stuff (religion, cults, and yes, also politics) end up being just weird.

But you don't care about this, as you have your own interpretation of live. Let me ask this then: If you're God is as devoted to our (or your lives) as you say, why would He allow video games to exist? And if you say if He would want to test you, why would He do that? Why would He want that people can go into heaven? Does He even care about that? Does He get satisfaction out of it? I guess what I want to say is, that if you believe in Christian values, that's ok to me, but don't freak out about it...

Sincerly,
According to you, just another simple mind

"Christian" values are fine. I put that in apostrophes because that's what they are commonly referred to, even though most people regardless of religion follow them. What really irks me is when you people are blatantly being racist and ignorant towards other races or religions. If you've never read the Qaran, how do you know it's bad? Islam is far more peaceful a religion than Christianity. Islamic extremists only make up a small percentage of the Muslim community and for Muslims hate them. They have a radical interpretation of the bible. They are the equivalent to the Nazis for Christians. They see the bible as saying that they must destroy those of other religions or race. How are Al Qaeda and Nazis any different?

The close-mindedness of you people disturbs me. You yourselves are no less brain washed then terrorists.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

"Christian" values are fine. I put that in apostrophes because that's what they are commonly referred to, even though most people regardless of religion follow them. What really irks me is when you people are blatantly being racist and ignorant towards other races or religions. If you've never read the Qaran, how do you know it's bad? Islam is far more peaceful a religion than Christianity. Islamic extremists only make up a small percentage of the Muslim community and for Muslims hate them. They have a radical interpretation of the bible. They are the equivalent to the Nazis for Christians. They see the bible as saying that they must destroy those of other religions or race. How are Al Qaeda and Nazis any different?

The close-mindedness of you people disturbs me. You yourselves are no less brain washed then terrorists.

Thanks for opening my eyes. Yes, True Christians are known across the world for strapping bombs to children and sending them of to blow up innocent babies. Want some honey, Muhammed?


Name once a True Christian has strapped a bomb to his chest, God Mocker!


A stupid gamer telling ANYONE, they are brainwashed???? Please!

[Nobar King]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

"Christian" values are fine. I put that in apostrophes because that's what they are commonly referred to, even though most people regardless of religion follow them. What really irks me is when you people are blatantly being racist and ignorant towards other races or religions. If you've never read the Qaran, how do you know it's bad? Islam is far more peaceful a religion than Christianity. Islamic extremists only make up a small percentage of the Muslim community and for Muslims hate them. They have a radical interpretation of the bible. They are the equivalent to the Nazis for Christians. They see the bible as saying that they must destroy those of other religions or race. How are Al Qaeda and Nazis any different?

The close-mindedness of you people disturbs me. You yourselves are no less brain washed then terrorists.

TERROR ALERT LEVEL ORANGE!!

[Common_Sense]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Thanks for opening my eyes. Yes, True Christians are known across the world for strapping bombs to children and sending them of to blow up innocent babies. Want some honey, Muhammed?


Name once a True Christian has strapped a bomb to his chest, God Mocker!


A stupid gamer telling ANYONE, they are brainwashed???? Please!

Typical that you only pick and choose the words you want to hear in my post. I never said no muslims do that I said that is a very small group of muslims that the biased media tends to focus on. If you ever actually met a muslim or maybe researched the teachings of islam and muhammed, then you would know that Islam is far more peaceful than Christianity. I am an atheist but I do not denounce any certain religion because most religions are themselves peaceful and based on values. You people however like to focus on the more violent parts of the bible and take it way too literally.