[sword99]

Re: Ghost Hunters: Paranormal Investigators Promote Witchcraft

Rev. Osborne,

I totally agree with everything you have written about the paranormal. My question is this: Can a Christian pastor also be involved in the paranormal? Would God ever give him this gift ?

The reason I ask is because there's a minister who calls himself the paranormal pastor and he has a website. He claims he uses the paranormal to help wayward people find God and that this is a spiritual gift given to him.

[SecretFalcon]

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Woah, the only time I'd watch TV was when I'd go over my aunt's house, and this was one of the shows I liked. I don't know why it never occured to me about the evil in it. Thanks Rev. for spreading this.

[Bobby-Joe]

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yeah begging your alls pardon, the GAC crew isn't gay. Crazy to be dealing with some potentially powerful things maybe, but defintely not gay. What we have is a phenomenon that yes, can lead to some cleverly disguised demonic forces if an unexperienced and untrained person dabbles in this field. The Ghost Hunter show is for show. Its a money making business for the head guys in it with their tv show, magazine, paid appearances, even their own hotel which they say is haunted. Follow the money ok? The show otherwise is boring.

We do however have some phenomenon which may involve interdimensional activity and time displacement. Its worth the study and protecting ones self is very wise with blessed items of ones faith. Faith plays a big part in these investigations when things go wrong. In some cases thing never happen because of protection. Some people find themselves believing more after an encounter and realize its a dangerous game. Some have experience personal tragedy as a result of dabbiling in the field. Home bring burned down, pets being killed, loved ones getting sick and so on all from bringing something back from one of these experiences. I personally believe it is a fad. People will tire of it. There a dozen groups in any town studying this, some for money, some out of curiosity and some with sinister intention. Yes its giving the afterlife free advertisement. If there's one word from this, it would be caution. Some people do not choose to have a haunted home and some want rid of whats there. In those cases we are glad some folks have studied it enough to be able to rid the place of the bad spirit or help a trapped soul move on. Sometimes the souls are lost and need guidence. Its bringing us closer to religion versus further away and I suggest anyone who study's the phenomenon have a good handle on who God is and take a strong belief in with you. It also has been proven God saves. I personally have not had a closer bond with God in trying to find out where we go after we die but before heaven accepts us.

Let me repeat myself; science has PROVED there is such thing as the supernatural. The ONLY POSSIBLE source of ghosts is Demons out to fool people since they don't have to obey the laws of science.

[johnnyu]

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yeah begging your alls pardon, the GAC crew isn't gay. Crazy to be dealing with some potentially powerful things maybe, but defintely not gay. What we have is a phenomenon that yes, can lead to some cleverly disguised demonic forces if an unexperienced and untrained person dabbles in this field. The Ghost Hunter show is for show. Its a money making business for the head guys in it with their tv show, magazine, paid appearances, even their own hotel which they say is haunted. Follow the money ok? The show otherwise is boring.

We do however have some phenomenon which may involve interdimensional activity and time displacement. Its worth the study and protecting ones self is very wise with blessed items of ones faith. Faith plays a big part in these investigations when things go wrong. In some cases thing never happen because of protection. Some people find themselves believing more after an encounter and realize its a dangerous game. Some have experience personal tragedy as a result of dabbiling in the field. Home bring burned down, pets being killed, loved ones getting sick and so on all from bringing something back from one of these experiences. I personally believe it is a fad. People will tire of it. There a dozen groups in any town studying this, some for money, some out of curiosity and some with sinister intention. Yes its giving the afterlife free advertisement. If there's one word from this, it would be caution. Some people do not choose to have a haunted home and some want rid of whats there. In those cases we are glad some folks have studied it enough to be able to rid the place of the bad spirit or help a trapped soul move on. Sometimes the souls are lost and need guidence. Its bringing us closer to religion versus further away and I suggest anyone who study's the phenomenon have a good handle on who God is and take a strong belief in with you. It also has been proven God saves. I personally have not had a closer bond with God in trying to find out where we go after we die but before heaven accepts us.

[Bobby-Joe]

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maybe because they have a TV show, ever think of that? Maybe you should do some research. If you did, you'd see that Nick is married, Aaron is recently divorced and Zak has been seeing Christine Dolce. It's called being presentable, not being gay. Maybe you should meet a gay man and then you'd see how straight they are.

Friend, I did two years of missionary work in San Fransisco. Trust me, I know ALL about gay men and what they like. Mu gaydar is working over time here.

[amy the jap wannabee]

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maybe because they have a TV show, ever think of that? Maybe you should do some research. If you did, you'd see that Nick is married, Aaron is recently divorced and Zak has been seeing Christine Dolce. It's called being presentable, not being gay. Maybe you should meet a gay man and then you'd see how straight they are.

[Bobby-Joe]

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"Ghost Adventures features three gay men who lock themselves in buildings and endure possession, and other occult experiences."

excuse me "pastor", isn't judging up the LORD? Then who are you to make your own post about these men that are gay?

Excuse me, look at the pictures of those guys; they are well dressed and groomed. No hetrosexual man would willing do that.

[amy the jap wannabee]

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"Ghost Adventures features three gay men who lock themselves in buildings and endure possession, and other occult experiences."

excuse me "pastor", isn't judging up the LORD? Then who are you to make your own post about these men that are gay? Have you ever watched the show? If you have, then you would know, the 3 of them are out there looking for an explanation for all of this. I find it very hard you don't believe in ghosts but believe in everything the bible says. Atleast with ghosts you know its real. When you get a voice answering your question 2 minutes ago, rather than waiting a lifetime to see what god has to say. My point is, you should not judge the boys of Ghost Adventures, you're not God in anyway.


PS, you shouldn't make a post about 3 men whose TV show is blowing up everywhere, and then tell people they cannot comment back or argue with you, because we believe in alllll that kinds of stuff and will fight to help them prove people like you wrong.

[Rick 'Magma' Bocchino]

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How you doing? I certainly don't want to contradict anything that any of you good Christians have stated in this topic but I am afraid I may have had a run in with a spirit or poltergeist at one point in my life.

As all of you who read my introduction know, I spent several years in jail before I became a Christian for letting a 16 year old perform in many of my pornographic movies. It was a very dark time in my life and I don't like to talk candidly about it. While I was staying in California State Prison, Los Angeles County I experienced paranormal activities on a variety of occasions that have led me to believe that the cell in which I was incarcerated was occupied by an entity not of this world.

It was a Tuesday night, I remember this because it was chili night. It was around Halloween time and my cell mate, Big Ray Ray the Pedophile and I spent that evening reading ghost stories from a book, and they were very scary indeed. He then shut the book and told me about a prisoner that had been locked up in our cell years before either of us were incarcerated in that prison. His name was Clyde but everyone knew him as The Mason Jar Rapist because in the 1950s he went around raping people with a mason jar. After he was put in jail the raping didn't stop, and many inmates were raped by him. One day all the gangs of the prison got together and vowed that they were going to do to him what he had done to so many other people. So one day they cornered him in the gym, pulled him pants down and raped him in the ass with a mason jar until his rectum was loose and sounded like the mouth of a cave. He never walked right ever again and died soon after. Every once in a while you can still hear the sound of The Mason Jar Rapist and his wispy rectum walking the halls of that prison, particularly in cell 2A... WHICH HAPPENED TO BE OUR CELL! It also turned out that the night Big Ray Ray told me this story was the anniversary of the day he got raped.

At 9 o'clock we all went to our separate cells and locked in for the night. Lights out. I was on the precipice of falling into sleep's embrace when I felt something most peculiar. All I can really say, because the details are now fuzzy for me, is that what felt like the cold hand of a disembodied spirit was removing my pants and pulling down my underwear. Frozen in terror with my eyes clamped shut I was too scared to move or do anything about it. Pretty soon he had my pants completely off, he climbed onto my back and nibbled on my ear for a bit, I could feel the bulge in his pants against my leg. I was terrified. I tried to scream out but I had no voice. He pulled his member out of his pants and I could feel it as it slithered between my butt cheeks. I clenched my teeth and prepared for the penetration I was about to endure.

That ghost humped me all night, and it was the most horrific 7 hours of my life. I got through it by praying to God, a figure I hadn't had in my life for over 30 years, to help me. God never intervened but I realized that I had been such a bad man in my life that this was probably his way of punishing me. The ghost humped me over and over for hours, his deathly-cold member shredding my fragile rectum to pieces. When he was done my bed sheets were covered in blood and shit and semen, which was odd because up until then I never realized that ghosts could cum.

At one point I finally passed out from all the raping and blood loss and when I came to Big Ray Ray was standing over me, asking what had happened. I told him and he also became afraid; there was no doubt between either of us that The Mason Jar Rapist had visited our cell that night and made me his next victim.

In the wake of my violation I tried to join a support group for people that had been raped in my prison but they didn't accept me because no one believed that a ghost had raped me. Once out of jail I tried to join a group for people that had run-ins with ghosts but no one believed that a ghost was capable of rape. Finally, in 2005 I made my own support group for people that have been raped by ghosts. I am still the only member but I hope that one day others who have been penetrated against their will by a ghost will join me.

So if you don't believe in ghosts just think about me getting anally penetrated by a ghost in my jail cell that grave October night. Just think about that translucent ethereal being slowly guiding his penis through my butt cheeks like a snake through a garden and tell me that ghosts don't exist. Think about me biting my lip until it was bloody and torn up as the ghost of a deceased rapist made me his next victim.

My name is Rick 'Magma' Bocchino and I was raped by a ghost.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Levi Jones]

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Man has been investigating the unknown for thousands of years, and it took a bible-thumper to discover what the rest of us already knew?

That witchcraft, divination and occultism are wrong in the eyes of God?

I am a Christian, always have been.

That seems unlikely considering your position.

I am also an ordained minister, twenty-four years now. It disturbs me that you lump legitimate investigation in with satanism and demon worship.

As an ordained minister, you should know that the Bible says nothing about the spirits of the living roaming the earth. You should also know that it says much about evil spirits that the LORD occasionally employs to punish the wicked.

Isaiah 19:14 The LORD hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit.

Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

These people are seeking out proof of life other than that which we can see, feel, and hear.

What does the Bible say about humans dabbling with spirits?

Can you give physical evidence of the existence of God? If so, you're the first. I certainly cannot, yet I do believe in Him. Some people, however, are naturally curious. Some people need to be shown or to experience things for themselves.

I don't need to play with a Ouija to know that evil spirits exist. I have the Bible.

If finding ghosts is wrong, well, I seem to recall a fella from my earliest biblical teachings. What was his name? Oh, yes...the Holy Ghost. Sometimes known as the Holy Spirit.

How can you compare spirits of evil and demons with the spirit of God? That's just plain silly.

I suppose that popular fiction like the Twilight movies and Harry Potter movies are promoting belief in the occult, too?

Of course they do. Do a Google search for "Harry Potter evil" and you'll quickly see we are no where close to the only ones who believe that.

There is a saying that "God must love stupid people, He made so many of them." Well, Rev. Osborne, you must be his absolute favorite.

Considering you profess to believe in God, perhaps you should look in the mirror before making statements like that.

[Rebuko the Clown]

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I don't think it's very pastorly of you to mock Rev. Jim and call him "stupid". You may not agree with what he has to say because you're probably brainwashed by some liberal hippie Christian cult, but that's okay, but at least show him the respect that he deserves.

Also I dont see how going into a dark room and having spirits talk to you through machines or ouija boards is "science". Okay maybe if they had some kind of laboratory and had ghosts in beakers and added acids and chemicals or something it would be paranormal science. But its not science what theyre doing its WITCHCRAFT! All these people being led astray by the Devil, its really really sad.

[malarky]

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Man has been investigating the unknown for thousands of years, and it took a bible-thumper to discover what the rest of us already knew? I am a Christian, always have been. I am also an ordained minister, twenty-four years now. It disturbs me that you lump legitimate investigation in with satanism and demon worship.

What is science but seeking out explanations? Are you against all science, or only those sorts which offend you? These people are seeking out proof of life other than that which we can see, feel, and hear. Can you give physical evidence of the existence of God? If so, you're the first. I certainly cannot, yet I do believe in Him. Some people, however, are naturally curious. Some people need to be shown or to experience things for themselves.

If finding ghosts is wrong, well, I seem to recall a fella from my earliest biblical teachings. What was his name? Oh, yes...the Holy Ghost. Sometimes known as the Holy Spirit.

I suppose that popular fiction like the Twilight movies and Harry Potter movies are promoting belief in the occult, too? And listening to rock and roll makes you worship the devil, too, I'm betting.

There is a saying that "God must love stupid people, He made so many of them." Well, Rev. Osborne, you must be his absolute favorite.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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The only ghost I believe in is the HOLY Ghost!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Ghost Adventures uses science to investigate ghost. Ghost are by definition supernatural, they exist outside the laws of nature. Science has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the supernatural doesn't exist. In the last 500 years of scientific investigation not a single claim of the paranormal has been proven. Even God Himself doesn't exist according to science.

So were do the ghosts from Ghost Adventures come from? Since they can't be naturally occurring and they can't be supernatural that leaves only one logical source; the Ghost Adventures are witches and summoning demons to pretend they are ghosts to dupe the audience into damning themselves.

Brother B-J, thank you for explaining the Truth behind "ghosties" and "things that go bump in the night"!