[Nobar King]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

That, and other risky endeavours, might be best delegated to the Finnish:

I did that once, except I'm not a pussy and didn't have a parachute.

[computerdemon]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

I notice no one has attempted to argue against me.......

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

I notice no one has attempted to argue against me.......

Your "concerns" have been addressed. Read the thread!

[georgenelson]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Sure children slaves will definitely destroys our economy.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

I notice no one has attempted to argue against me.......

Friend, we do not argue. We follow the Bible. The Bible is perfect. Therefore all of our comments are also perfect and error free. Sorry.
Let's take a look at the Bible, just to confirm, OK?

Here is a little bit that explains how God has Ordained Christians to judge things and people. Note God empowers us. Not 'notch'.
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
(Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

This bit confirms we are the Children of God and not you:
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

1st John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of Go

Now, if you doubt the accuracy of my comments, consider the following:
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Now, just so you know, Christians welcome your persecution. It helps God identify those obvious candidates for the lake of fire.
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

[its_faith]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Please forgive me if this has been brought up for I didn't read ever page of this thread due to its length. I have found clear evidence of minecraft trying to push a gay agenda on children.

[Perplexed]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Here's something that should rock the things said here, found from a site.

"Minecraft, although it is not advertised as a Christian game, is unintentionally the first Christian game aimed at Secular gamers. And it's working!

Minecraft takes place in a procedurally generated, natural world made entirely of blocks with low-res textures, like some sort of retro game, only 3D and Eight times larger than earth. Blocks can be taken from and added to the world to shape it as the player sees fit, although you need to make tools and gather supplies of blocks to do this in Survival mode.

You start above ground in an outdoors environment filled with hills, mountains, oceans, grassy plains, sandy beaches, rocky outcrops, and forests. You can also dig into the ground and find caverns, underground waterfalls, and lava. Even though it's all low-res blocks it's really beautiful!

The player isn't told what to do or given any back-story, but it is clear to those familiar with the Bible that the game takes place in a world much like it was shortly after the Fall. The land is vast and unspoiled by human settlements, but death has entered the world. During the day you gather resources to build shelters and craft supplies. When night falls, demons appear and try to kill you.
At first glance the game doesn't appear overtly Christian, but there are obvious examples of Christianity, like sheep that frolic along the countryside, reminding us of the Lamb.

Many lessons from the Bible are delivered to the player through intuitive immersion: For example, the player learns through trial and error to build his shelter on solid rock instead of falling sand, much as we should build our lives on the rock of Jesus. This is the same lesson taught in Matthew 7:24-27, however by engaging the player in actively experiencing the parable, the game subtly and effectively reaches Christian gamers who might otherwise reject explicit witnessing.

One of the central lessons comes when the player realizes that the most important thing to craft in the game are torches. Demons can spawn anywhere there is darkness, like at night or in caves. Torches keep this from happening, conveying the importance of light in a dark world. This makes the player more receptive to the good news that Jesus is the light: "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness" (John 12:46) and "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life" (John 8:12).

Just like in real life, wandering around Minecraft in the dark is a sure way to fall victim to demons. Again, this conveys Jesus' teachings: "If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him" (John 11:9-10). The demons' fondness for darkness and spontaneously combusting in sunlight are also Biblically founded: "They are of those that rebel against the light; they know not the ways thereof, nor abide in the paths thereof ... For the morning is to them even as the shadow of death: if one know them, they are in the terrors of the shadow of death" (Job 24:13,17).
In the beginning, the player is fearful of darkness, but soon learns that light provides safety and his fears subside: "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 27:1).
The Biblical themes of solidness of rock and righteousness of light are central to Minecraft's gameplay. Even the most Secular of gamers will have these values instilled in them effortlessly without realizing they are learning the Gospel.
Another Biblical theme is Spiritual Warfare. Eventually the player is able to craft armor and a sword. This is necessary to survive the scariest of the demons, the creeper, which can silently sneak up on you and explode. Unlike other demons, creepers can survive sunlight without burning, teaching the player the value of putting on the Full Armor of God in order to engage demonic powers (Ephesians 6:10-18).

In 2010 a version of Alpha (1.2.0) was released that increases the urgency of the game's unintentional message of Salvation by including the ability to witness Hell first-hand.

The Nether is presented as a vast underground cavern composed of brimstone with lakes of fire (Rev. 20:10), without light (Mat. 8:12) except for the fires that burn everywhere. Fire is the central theme of this realm. You even travel there by building a portal out of obsidian and lighting it on fire.

The unsaved, in the form of Half-Man, Half-Pig, wander around Hell in constant torment, their corrupted flesh eaten by worms (Mark 9:44) as they wail and purr in madness (Mat. 13:50). Pale demons (Rev. 6:8) patrol the cavernous skies spitting explosive fireballs at you. There is no water here to quench your thirst (Luke 16:24). If you bring some in a bucket and try to use it, it just evaporates.
Minecraft's Biblically accurate vision of Hell is very disturbing and scary and will convince any unsaved person of the necessity of accepting Christ into their hearts before it is too late."

[Luminelle]

Why

First of all: no. Minecraft is about creativity and putting your mind at work. For those who have already learned the controls for the gaming systems they have, it is easier to keep knowing those than trying to draw out their ideas, especially for children. "Griefing" is also not "sexual predators luring children" as you call it, it's the few horrible people who destroy creations to upset the creator. Just because a few people out of millions are creepy, doesn't mean their everywhere and try to corrupt your children. Also, those penises walking around are simple creatures that had some difficulty to the game. I'm sure if the enemies werent there, someone would be ranting about how the game shows life is easy and that's against the lord or something. You wouldn't find that drawing unless you were purposefully looking for "creeper porn". Everything is blocks because, again, it's a simple game for children. There are no hidden God or political meanings behind it, they aren't corrupting children, and I've met ruder and more perverted children going to a private catholic school. And that "insane puppet" is proud of his work, why would he masterbate over pixelated blocks? "Oh no! It has spheres!" Architectural design. Aesthetics. I happen to be an engineer and I know plenty about design, those improve the physical looks. The game is not destroying the economy. The current generation in charge is destroying the economy. So if by the time the kids are adults, there is no longer a currency system and they have to provide for themselves, at least they can provide for themselves and they aren't ranting about games over the Internet that make their child HAPPY. If you take away your child's happiness, that's yet another sign of being goth, which is a sin, making you the cause of you putting your child into hell. I have played minecraft many times, and me and some of my coworkers even use it to share ideas for what we can do for our next design. And if the attachment I included actually works, you'll see that building is not the work of the devil. How do you expect your own home and church got there? Someone built it. People physically worked together to create these places. Just like children are learning to do in this game.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why

First of all: no. Minecraft is about creativity and putting your mind at work. For those who have already learned the controls for the gaming systems they have, it is easier to keep knowing those than trying to draw out their ideas, especially for children. "Griefing" is also not "sexual predators luring children" as you call it, it's the few horrible people who destroy creations to upset the creator. Just because a few people out of millions are creepy, doesn't mean their everywhere and try to corrupt your children. Also, those penises walking around are simple creatures that had some difficulty to the game. I'm sure if the enemies werent there, someone would be ranting about how the game shows life is easy and that's against the lord or something. You wouldn't find that drawing unless you were purposefully looking for "creeper porn". Everything is blocks because, again, it's a simple game for children. There are no hidden God or political meanings behind it, they aren't corrupting children, and I've met ruder and more perverted children going to a private catholic school. And that "insane puppet" is proud of his work, why would he masterbate over pixelated blocks? "Oh no! It has spheres!" Architectural design. Aesthetics. I happen to be an engineer and I know plenty about design, those improve the physical looks. The game is not destroying the economy. The current generation in charge is destroying the economy. So if by the time the kids are adults, there is no longer a currency system and they have to provide for themselves, at least they can provide for themselves and they aren't ranting about games over the Internet that make their child HAPPY. If you take away your child's happiness, that's yet another sign of being goth, which is a sin, making you the cause of you putting your child into hell. I have played minecraft many times, and me and some of my coworkers even use it to share ideas for what we can do for our next design. And if the attachment I included actually works, you'll see that building is not the work of the devil. How do you expect your own home and church got there? Someone built it. People physically worked together to create these places. Just like children are learning to do in this game.

tl;dr

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Witch Hammer]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

I have played minecraft many times, and me and some of my coworkers even use it to share ideas for what we can do for our next design

You do research & development in a dildo factory!?

You probably think it your "dream job"....but you should really consider a career in marriage, housekeeping, child bearing and keeping your yap shut unless spoken to.

[computerdemon]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Why was my screen name changed? It was originally computer. Kinda like the new name though....

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Why was my screen name changed?

You have to ask your Minecraft anal sex buddies about that. This is a Christian forum warning for the horrors of Minecraft, not a Minecraft "how to grief and rape children" forum.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Why was my screen name changed? It was originally computer. Kinda like the new name though....

Through servile acquiescence to the demonic agendas of the antiChristian administrations, you have given power unto the infernal realms to inject your browser with profane javascripts. You will be cast into outer darkness, with the unclean harlots and thieves.

Why have you trespassed in our righteous sanctuary?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

Why was my screen name changed? It was originally computer. Kinda like the new name though....

What are you wittering about? Your name looks exactly the same to me.

[its_faith]

Re: Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy!

I have watched a couple of videos on youtube of people playing minecraft and all I have to say is why do people play minecraft? How does one score points?