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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
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    #331
    Re: God hates garrys mod

    Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
    I need some clarity because every time this point is made the argument is completely taken out of hand where the point would not be addressed properly.

    Garry's Mod is an open sand box created by an extremely intelligent man so gamers may do as they please, such as create fun and trivial game modes, play with physics with out actually doing harm to one's self, make machinimas, create situations with familiar characters from games that have also entertained and challenges gamers, and even learn more about different coding. It is simply a medium. So why, is the entire Game mod, generation that plays the game mod, and the creator of the game mod even being brought to question for something that a couple of fools created out of ignorance and stupidity? I use Garry's Mod and host several servers where players go to have fun that is in no way perverted unless a troll who himself is pretty perverted joins and in that case he feels the full power of the ban hammer.

    I ask this, if am man drowns in water and dies, would you blame the water?

    Please answer the question with out deviating from the subject with an answer that is not filled with ignorance based of the lack of knowledge you have of the game mode it's self.

    I would also like to say I am not arguing any point and am not making stand, just seeking information.

    Thank you in advance for not flaming at me for I know you will see my point of view and retort with your point of view, or in regards to the forum I am on God's point of view.
    Dear Uppity Whore:

    This is a Christian forum. Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.


    YIC,

    --Pastor Ezekiel
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Dutchess
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      • Apr 2012
      • 10

      #332
      Re: God hates garrys mod

      Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
      Dear Uppity Whore:

      This is a Christian forum. Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

      And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.


      YIC,

      --Pastor Ezekiel
      Not flaming...... Really just seeking information so I am be savvy in your point of view.

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      • Rev. M. Rodimer
        Honorary True Christian™
        Forum Member
        • May 2008
        • 13996

        #333
        Re: God hates garrys mod

        Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
        I ask this, if am man drowns in water and dies, would you blame the water?
        Of course not! I'd blame He who created the water, God.

        God is all-powerful and all-knowing. Therefore, He knew before He created water that people would drown in it. He also knows, at this very instant, that this hypothetical man of yours will drown in that water tomorrow at 3 pm.

        Being all-powerful, He could make water that would not cause people to drown. He could also prevent the drowning of Hypothetical Man through any number of minor interventions.

        He chooses not to; it is His Plan that Hypothetical Man drown at 3pm tomorrow.

        Garry, meanwhile, has created this "sandbox" -- a new Earth. He is playing "god". Therefore, he is responsible for what happens in the "earth" he created.
        Bible boring? Nonsense!
        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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        • Dutchess
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          • Apr 2012
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          #334
          Re: God hates garrys mod

          Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
          Of course not! I'd blame He who created the water, God.

          God is all-powerful and all-knowing. Therefore, He knew before He created water that people would drown in it. He also knows, at this very instant, that this hypothetical man of yours will drown in that water tomorrow at 3 pm.

          Being all-powerful, He could make water that would not cause people to drown. He could also prevent the drowning of Hypothetical Man through any number of minor interventions.


          Garry, meanwhile, has created this "sandbox" -- a new Earth. He is playing "god". Therefore, he is responsible for what happens in the "earth" he created.


          Then by your logic is God to be blamed for all that happens on earth?

          Including Murder, Homosexuality, rape, Greed, gluttony, etc.

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          • Rev. M. Rodimer
            Honorary True Christian™
            Forum Member
            • May 2008
            • 13996

            #335
            Re: God hates garrys mod

            Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
            Then by your logic is God to be blamed for all that happens on earth?

            Including Murder, Homosexuality, rape, Greed, gluttony, etc.
            God permits everything that happens on Earth. If you wish to "blame" Him, then you may do so; I prefer to praise Him.

            Just because I do not understand His Plan does not mean there is not a reason He allowed Jeffrey Dahmer to torture, rape, kill, and eat young homosexuals.
            Bible boring? Nonsense!
            Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
            You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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            • Pastor Ezekiel
              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
               
              • Sep 2006
              • 78551

              #336
              Re: God hates garrys mod

              Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
              Then by your logic is God to be blamed for all that happens on earth?

              Including Murder, Homosexuality, rape, Greed, gluttony, etc.
              God created everything. Who else?

              What's your point? Are you even a Christian?

              Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • Dutchess
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                • Apr 2012
                • 10

                #337
                Re: God hates garrys mod

                Ok, I would like to try another metaphor. If you build a boat and sell that boat to lets say Tim and Tim decides to be reckless with the boat and hurt himself purely out of his own stupidity. Should Tim blame you?

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                • Rev. M. Rodimer
                  Honorary True Christian™
                  Forum Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 13996

                  #338
                  Re: God hates garrys mod

                  Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
                  Ok, I would like to try another metaphor. If you build a boat and sell that boat to lets say Tim and Tim decides to be reckless with the boat and hurt himself purely out of his own stupidity. Should Tim blame you?
                  Why, because you didn't like the answer you got with your first attempt?

                  Obviously, it was God's Will that Tim get hurt, or He would have prevented it.

                  However, we're not talking about creating a boat. We're talking about creating a universe, which in itself is a mockery of God's Creation, and then encouraging others to play in this mockery of the Lord and pretend to be like God. It is exalting oneself above God; it is blasphemy.
                  Bible boring? Nonsense!
                  Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                  You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                  • Dutchess
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                    • Apr 2012
                    • 10

                    #339
                    Re: God hates garrys mod

                    It is not creating a universe.... It is simply a mod created from valve games to be fun, entertaining, and even educational.

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                    • Rev. M. Rodimer
                      Honorary True Christian™
                      Forum Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 13996

                      #340
                      Re: God hates garrys mod

                      Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
                      It is not creating a universe.... It is simply a mod created from valve games to be fun, entertaining, and even educational.
                      It's creating an imitation universe. That's the entire point of a "sandbox".

                      It's blasphemy! Why not just admit you're a God-hating atheist and quit worrying what Christians think? You've already committed to going to Hell. Might as well enjoy the ride, right?
                      Bible boring? Nonsense!
                      Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                      You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                      • Dutchess
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                        • Apr 2012
                        • 10

                        #341
                        Re: God hates garrys mod

                        Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                        It's creating an imitation universe. That's the entire point of a "sandbox".

                        It's blasphemy! Why not just admit you're a God-hating atheist and quit worrying what Christians think? You've already committed to going to Hell. Might as well enjoy the ride, right?
                        I like to be informed on more then just my own point of view and have also enjoyed your's. You should really put your-self in other people's point of view to sound less like an ignorant ass with only one view. Be more open minded, it's how our wonderful civilization has advanced thus far. BTW, in reply to the pms you sent me. I am not really a whore just because I am not Christian does not mean I don't have a moral compass, I also do not worship Satan simply because it is very hard for me to worship something I do not believe in. Clearly you are very set in your ways and have a very strong faith which is fantastic and I hope that you have a wonderful road ahead of you full of many adventurous twist and turns. also hope that you have not become so perverted with your interpretation of the bible that you have not forgot to love your fellow human. You should show more compassion and love in your out reach program, maybe then there would be less sin and more love.

                        ps. I am an out and proud homosexual with a man that I am completely in love with and have the full intention on starting a loving family.

                        pps. When you use quotations the period goes inside of the quotes.

                        ppps. I know you will ban me from the site and I have no intention on ever returning here, I might even go as far as to block the site from my router for I now am fully aware of your view and do not wish to read more.

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                        • Chris357
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 4

                          #342
                          Re: God hates garrys mod

                          Hello

                          I don't think that God hates Garry Newman. I don't think God hates people for playing Garry's Mod. I guess he would be a bit disappointed with the people who make things like in the original post, quite understandable. From what I gather, though, apparently if I play Garry's Mod and do something like build a house I'm condemned to an eternity in hell..? I really don't think God would do such a thing (It isn't hurting anyone).

                          A lot of people must think "Boy, I don't want to be a Christian because by their standards I'm going straight to hell unless I don't make drastic changes fast!" because of stuff like this. I have 1173 hours logged in Garry's Mod so far. I don't worship Garry. I don't pretend I'm god. I play on Role Play servers and on my listen server with my friends.

                          I am a high achieving high school student who almost never does the wrong thing. I am a kind and sensitive person, who happens to be a gamer. If this means I'm going to hell, so be it. I trust God and his decision on where I will spend an eternity. Hey, he could be looking down thinking "No! You've got it all wrong!" when you say people go to hell for playing a video game. You never know.

                          P.S. the amount of racist smileys available is disturbing for such a place

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                          • Levi Jones
                            Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                            Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                            Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                             
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 13930

                            #343
                            Re: God hates garrys mod

                            Originally posted by Chris357 View Post
                            Hello

                            I don't think that God hates Garry Newman. I don't think God hates people for playing Garry's Mod. I guess he would be a bit disappointed with the people who make things like in the original post, quite understandable. From what I gather, though, apparently if I play Garry's Mod and do something like build a house I'm condemned to an eternity in hell..? I really don't think God would do such a thing (It isn't hurting anyone).

                            A lot of people must think "Boy, I don't want to be a Christian because by their standards I'm going straight to hell unless I don't make drastic changes fast!" because of stuff like this. I have 1173 hours logged in Garry's Mod so far. I don't worship Garry. I don't pretend I'm god. I play on Role Play servers and on my listen server with my friends.

                            I am a high achieving high school student who almost never does the wrong thing. I am a kind and sensitive person, who happens to be a gamer. If this means I'm going to hell, so be it. I trust God and his decision on where I will spend an eternity. Hey, he could be looking down thinking "No! You've got it all wrong!" when you say people go to hell for playing a video game. You never know.

                            P.S. the amount of racist smileys available is disturbing for such a place
                            I see. You hang out on a place infested by chantards and furries. Friend, Jesus tells us that they will know us by our fruits.

                            You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

                            If you want to be associated with that kind of filth, more power to you I guess.
                            Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                            • Dutchess
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                              • Apr 2012
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                              #344
                              Re: God hates garrys mod

                              Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                              I see. You hang out on a place infested by chantards and furries. Friend, Jesus tells us that they will know us by our fruits.

                              You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

                              If you want to be associated with that kind of filth, more power to you I guess.
                              Just wanted to throw this out there since this site is so poorly coded that this might be the only way for you to read this, I never once tried to force my Homosexuality on to any one, simply because its more a way one is born. Please dont quote the Bible against that.

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                              • Levi Jones
                                Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                                Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                                Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                                 
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 13930

                                #345
                                Re: God hates garrys mod

                                Originally posted by Dutchess View Post
                                Just wanted to throw this out there since this site is so poorly coded that this might be the only way for you to read this, I never once tried to force my Homosexuality on to any one, simply because its more a way one is born. Please dont quote the Bible against that.
                                If God is against homosexuality, how can you be born with it? Isn't it more likely a choice?

                                Now, go and sin no more. Quit sticking your penis in boys' buttocks.
                                Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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