[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: The Christian's Guide To Detecting Demonic Music

i am wondering what this great and all knowing God loving organization thinks of the song "My *** racial epithet removed *** "?!?! I am very worried because it is a God loving song but it has a huvh BBM!!! Someone ease help,me,with

Please watch the racial epithets. Even the lesser races deserve a shot at redemption without feeling uncomfortable.

Also: please make a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum...we want to get to know you!



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[123ABCmatt]

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I did want to note that the modern type of satanic music can be recognized by the thumping sound that can be heard before the other, even more discordant parts, especially if the music is coming from a vehicle coming in your direction.

Often, those vehicles will have large, spinning hubcaps and the driver will be reclined so as to appear to be sleeping as he drives.

Also, Brother Bobby, we here can help you.

What is your Church? Where do you abide? What is your favorite Bible verse.

You can make an introductory post in the appropriate section.

God Bless!

i am wondering what this great and all knowing God loving organization thinks of the song "My *** racial epithet removed *** "?!?! I am very worried because it is a God loving song but it has a huvh BBM!!! Someone ease help,me,with

[Kristall]

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Would you classify this music as being demonic ?

It would be a shame if this great piece of music would violate the word of god.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Wow, have fun...

Thank you! Say, why not introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! You can read all kinds of helpful information on this thread for newcomers like yourself. If you’d like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural Support where we can see how wonderfully God said it first. Finally, your rights on our forum can be found HERE.

[peewee]

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Wow, have fun listening to boring music and believing that a potential creator of the entire universe would think that certain sound vibrations are "holy" and other sound vibrations are "evil". That's totally logical.

[Alvin Moss]

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I did want to note that the modern type of satanic music can be recognized by the thumping sound that can be heard before the other, even more discordant parts, especially if the music is coming from a vehicle coming in your direction.

Often, those vehicles will have large, spinning hubcaps and the driver will be reclined so as to appear to be sleeping as he drives.

Also, Brother Bobby, we here can help you.

What is your Church? Where do you abide? What is your favorite Bible verse.

You can make an introductory post in the appropriate section.

God Bless!

[bobbysmith]

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The writings I have seen here have been of much help to me in my crusade to become a good and true Christian. As a young boy I have had many testing experiences which have forced me to question my faith and landover bap has helped my find the righteous path.

However, I am now in true turmoil as my older brother has strayed and now subjects my young mind to some demonic sounding music called drum and bass. I don't know what to do as I am frightened by my urge to dance to this music and this of course can only lead to wild and uncontrollable fornication.

The link below has an example of what I am being tormented with and please only view if you wish to help me as I fear it could even be too powerful for those of strong and unquestionable faith tolerate.

please, please help

[bobbysmith]

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[/SIZE]If you find yourself listening to a song with a tempo of 666 BPM, destroy whatever instruments or devices are producing the music, and pray fervently for forgiveness and protection.

I honestly can't think of ANY music with a bpm of 666, can you point me in the direction of some?

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

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Friends, I would like to bring your attention to a particularly demonic cult-like entity known to followers as "hardcore rave techno music". It is a British export characterized by extremely high BPMs (170 or more!) and a drum beat that does little more than go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. It is horrible to behold but I feel that its underground prevalence can not be ignored.

Clearly no Godly, right-minded adult would indulge in primitive mud man activities like "raving" - which is the act of listening to these "hardcore rave techno music" beats while taking MDMA and buggering other men - but I feel inclined to enlighten you all as to the warning signs that your own child may be a secret "raver".

Remember that if you see your son or daughter dressed like a neon Tokyo schoolgirl whore with miniature anal beads around their wrists, it might already be too late!



Notice the horrifying, atheistic regression to a childlike state and the undeniably homoerotic androgyny. This music is turning its listeners into hedonistic, Godless little fags.

What's even more scary than the appearance of its adherents, however, is the philosophy and lifestyle this music seems to promote. Extensive brain damage from regular use of powerful illicit drugs is not just a side-effect, it is practically a core goal of the music. The music has a horrible brainwashing effect creating the atmosphere of a cult amongst fans.

I'm sorry to have to do this but please just listen to a clip of this terrible "music" for the benefit of your children. If you catch them listening to anything which sounds like this, I fear that you're going to have to take serious, perhaps even permanent, corrective action.

[SATANIC LINK REMOVED FOR THE SAFETY OF TRUE CHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE]

Although YouTube is, of course, a Godless center of technocratic depravity, I think it's a necessary evil for exemplary purposes in this case. I should warn you that the lyrics are definitely inappropriate for your young. Vulgar language, promotion of drug use and a uber-liberal world view can be heard. The main line of that particularly techno rave song is "why can't you just accept it, I'm a raver not a f--king drug addict" -- those words are not to be interpreted literally because 99% of the people listening to that song for fun will be raging, stoner drug addicts.

Good luck, friends.

[Bob4God]

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Oh one more things, could you please reference the KJV 1611 passages that say what you have just claimed? After all we should take nobody's word for granted except that of God's in the infallible, perfect Bible.

Of course I can:

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. - Philippians 4:8

This verse reminds us that only things which are uplifting, such as major chords, are to be dwelt upon by True Christians.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? - 2 Corinthians 6:14

This verse speaks out against the pairing of believers and unbelievers, the mixing of light with dark, and therefore, white keys and black keys.

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: - 1 Peter 5:8

The devil is just absolutely everywhere, including music, and it should make every Christian absurdly paranoid.

[aUniversityStudent]

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Excellent, thank you for clearing those up. I'm still a little unsure about demonic posession enhancing musical ability and such, but I think I've got the basics.

Oh one more things, could you please reference the KJV 1611 passages that say what you have just claimed? After all we should take nobody's word for granted except that of God's in the infallible, perfect Bible.

[Bob4God]

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(lets say I wanted to tempt fate a bit), this CEG chord then becomes a minor chord (am9). These three notes (CEG) are both major AND minor chords, so are they then good and evil at the same time?

You should fire your music teacher, if he or she taught you that C E G is a minor.

C E G is a GODly chord, and could only be perverted into a demonic minor chord by lowering the third, thus creating c minor. But you wouldn't want to do that, unless you were drawn to Satan's darkness.

Of course you could always back up and say "well not if there is no minor key" but I am sure you know that the circle of fifths and relative minor keys do exist...what are we to do?

What are we to do?

We are to do what I've told you to do, and play only using C Major, avoiding relative and parallel minors, and any other secular theory nonsense.

C E G, F A C, and G B D should be more than enough to write and play any song.

Next I find that we are not to play white and black notes together on the keyboard?

Yes, you heard right. Glad we have that settled.

[aUniversityStudent]

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Thank you WJB for your very relevant history lesson. However, I would like to know

*Is bach's music, or any song not in the key of CM satanic?
*Chords can be both major and minor- what does that make them?
*If I play a Bb Major chord (Bb D F) since it mixes black and white keys (which apparently means something) is that evil?
*Can musicians summon demons to enhance their skill?
*What Biblical reference (assuming KJV 1611) can you point to that would inform our understanding of music and God's opinion of which is okay and which isnt?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Son, Bach is simply over rated. Aside from being a Luthertonian (and therefore not a True Christian™), his Magnificat borders on (if not outright) cathylick Mary worship – but I digress.

The chosen key for Christians (C Major) is to simplify things (no troublesome sharp and flats) and additionally, with the equal tempered scale largely adopted in the 19th Century all keys sound the same anyway. This wasn't always so, and Bach was rumored to have something to do with this. There was a time when there were perfect thirds, forths, and fifths – which pleased the Lord's ear, and each key was distinctive. What caused the problem was the invention of lutes (the predecessor to other fretted instruments like the modern satanic guitar used in rock music) and keyboard instruments (again used in rock and metal bands).

Some musicologists credit Bach with "inventing" the equal tempered scale (and there were lots of other scales floating around in Bach's time) with his "Well Tempered Clavier", while others insist that Bach was merely exhibiting his cleverness in avoiding the inevitable "wolf tones" with his compositions. We are still paying these useless academics in Universities as they will never know – Bach is dead and there are no recordings from that period. Oh sure, you can attend some "authentic" period performances where they haul out their viols and sackbuts – but they all sound like crap.

[aUniversityStudent]

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This thread is very interesting and important to me because it is about none other than Music! One of my favorite pasttimes and hobbies...I occasionally dabble on the piano and guitar when I get the chance to though I am not very good. However I am trying to understand the biblical and Christian context behind your original posting. I am not concerned with modern pop-culture garbage that is spewed out of hollywood and sold to young minds. You will get no argument from me on the mind-warping effects of their music. However I would like to focus on the actual, music theory applications of your words. You say any song that is not in the key of Cmajor is not godly. While I don't know much about the faith and Jesus' teachings (yet) I am trying to learn, and this might be a good opportunity for me.

I am truly sorry to hear that C Major is the only acceptable key for music to be written in. Perhaps this is because of my favorite song, which I may no long be able to enjoy the beauty of. It is Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring written by Bach (one of the greatest men and composers to live). I first heard the song performed on a full organ as a child and immediately fell in love with it. However the song is in the key of G and the version that I have printed for my piano is at 102 bpm. So this beautiful piece, written for the purpose of worshiping Jesus by a devout Christian who dedicated much of his professional life to producing music that gives glory to god is satanic? He proclaimed, as you do now, that the main purpose of music is none other than to glorify God. Where is the sense in this, if I may? A song that touches my heart and calls to my spirit for all these years, all just an evil trick of Satan? What a terrible world this must be! Perhaps it would be more appropriate of me, instead, to ask for some Biblical context so that I may change my ways.

Also I would like to point out the discussion on chords. In fact I am sitting at a piano now so perhaps someone who has some music background knowledge to help guide me. You say that any minor chord is somehow infused with Satan? I do not understand this and when I play a minor chord I see no evidence that any entity, good or evil has even noticed my achievement. Alas, the first time I played a full piano song with no mistakes nobody noticed and that shouldn't be asking for much I kidding. Anyway I am in the key of C major, a good key. I play the root chord (C E G) which is a major chord and thus good. However if all of a sudden I changed my mind and decided this song is actually in the key of A minor (lets say I wanted to tempt fate a bit), this CEG chord then becomes a minor chord (am9). These three notes (CEG) are both major AND minor chords, so are they then good and evil at the same time? Of course you could always back up and say "well not if there is no minor key" but I am sure you know that the circle of fifths and relative minor keys do exist...what are we to do? Next I find that we are not to play white and black notes together on the keyboard? How am I to play a Bb Major Chord (Bb D F) which uses white and black notes? I am sure that I just have made a mistake in my reasoning somewhere, and hope for your guidance.

PS in lieu of posting I watched some Christian youtube videos that describe how the "heavy metulz" bands these days can affect people. It is asserted in the videos that satanic metulz bands can call upon the powers of demons live, on stage, during performances (!) which can enhance their skill and speed (especially on drums). In your view is this an acceptable claim and what would Jesus have to say about those who try and use demon-enhanced skills to play their instruments better than the rest of us?

I hope you view my questions as serious and legitimate- and that simply by laying out my ignorance and questions and plainly as I can, with as little bias as I can, you will see that I truly want to know what Christians believe on this issue. I suppose the fate of my eternal soul is worth critically looking at what music I am choosing to hear as well!

-AUS