[propos]

Re: Tolerance

That depends. Do you want to be Saved©?

I don't know if i want to be Saved© and become a True Christian™. All those copyright and trademark signs make me feel like I am selling my soul to somebody. And mr. Pastor Ezekiel, the suggest you familiarize yourself with estonian history before accusing me of nazism.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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In a way I understand what you are saying. Yet this webpage also seems to be racist and nationalist. I mean, why do people have this white ghost thing next to their name that says "True Christian Caucasian", why are here emoticons like , or ? What does being a "true american" have anything to do with being a christian?

God does not necessarily love all races and nations equally. The Old Testament pretty clearly shows that.

[Cranky Old Man]

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I am not sure wether I should post here anymore, because people here are clearly aggressive and vicious towards me.

That depends. Do you want to be Saved(c)?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I am not sure wether I should post here anymore, because people here are clearly aggressive and vicious towards me.

Why are you spewing hatred, friend? Is it because of your nazi upbringing?

[propos]

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I am not sure wether I should post here anymore, because people here are clearly aggressive and vicious towards me.

[Cranky Old Man]

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I can not know if my ways are right or if another persons ways are hellbound. God's ways are mysterious.

There is nothing mysterious about what God wants from us. The KJV1611 Holy Bible is crystal clear on these things.

Tolerance, for me, is still a virtue.

Then you disagree with God!

Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which w as meet."

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[propos]

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In a way I understand what you are saying. Yet this webpage also seems to be racist and nationalist. I mean, why do people have this white ghost thing next to their name that says "True Christian Caucasian", why are here emoticons like , or ? What does being a "true american" have anything to do with being a christian?

I can not know if my ways are right or if another persons ways are hellbound. God's ways are mysterious.
Tolerance, for me, is still a virtue.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Jesus told us to love our enemies therefore we must tolerate our enemies knowing that we are just and rightful by doing so.

That's a non sequitur. Loving someone doesn't mean tolerating that person. In fact, it's quite the opposite; True Christian™ love often requires that we love people with Christ's tough love:

Ezekiel 33:8-9: When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

1 Timothy 5:20: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Look at it this way. If you see someone standing in the path of an oncoming train, which is the genuinely loving thing to do: to mind your own business and honor that person's choice, or to push that person out of the way?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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I am not questioning God here. I am questioning this webpage.

So your problem is not with baby-torturing, but with impoliteness. The word for this, I believe, is "liberal". However, WE PREACH THE WAY JESUS PREACHED.

[propos]

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Yes, God has done terrible things which we cannot understand. And yes, it is not our job to question God's ways and neither is it our job to question the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus told us to love our enemies therefore we must tolerate our enemies knowing that we are just and rightful by doing so.
I am not questioning God here. I am questioning this webpage.

[propos]

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Tolerating something doesn't equal accepting or respecting it. In fact, the very word implies that you look down on the thing you're tolerating. The dictionary confirms this:

tolerate
v 1: put up with something or somebody unpleasant; "I cannot bear his constant criticism"; "The new secretary had to endure a lot of unprofessional remarks"; "he learned to tolerate the heat"; "She stuck out two years in a miserable marriage" [syn: {digest}, {endure}, {stick out}, {stomach}, {bear}, {stand}, {support}, {brook}, {abide}, {suffer}, {put up}]

So basically, you're an arrogant douchebag who's soooo good, that he'll put up with all the inferior people.

Wow, thank you SO MUCH!

I will pray for you, dear imbecile

Oh, I am very sorry about the phrase "come on me". English is not my native language and I did not realise what I had said untill you pointed it out. I was trying to say, that I do not mind people being homosexual as long as they are not hitting on me or something.
About the word tolerance... that's not exactly what i was thinking either, but explaining it would be difficult.

And thank you very much.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Since you're unframiliar with the Bible, I'll just stick to the famous bits.

You know the 10 commandments, right? "Thou shalt have no others gods before me?" Does that mean you can't worship Jesus? No, it means Jesus and the God of the Old Testement are the same. We called it "The Holy Trinity".

You know How God, that is Jesus, sent the plagues upon Egypt? How He killed every the firstborn child to punish a Pharoh (who He didn't just punish directly?) Does that sound like the wuss you've heard preachers describe?

You know God controls everything, individually designing each and every snowflake, right? So who punishes sinful toddlers with horrible injuries and diseases? Who kills the 75% of babies who die in miscarriages? Your hippie Jesus? Or the bold and ruthless king and Lord of hosts that True Christians™ worship?

You know how Joshua won the battle of Jericho? Catchy song, huh? You know that when Joshua took Jericho he killed "everything that breathed", right? Pregnant ladies, babies, everything. I guess your hippie Jesus would blather about "rules of engagement" and "disproportionate force", but the REAL Jesus, the one we worship, knows you have to break a lot of eggs to make an omlete. That and a lot of babies.

You know about Noah and the flood? That's Jesus who drowned everybody on earth. Picture your hippie Jesus waterboarding to death little babies!

Jesus works in mysterious ways. He is the shepard of our flock. You know that shepards EAT the sheep, right? Mysterious ways. It is not our job to question it.

Love everybody? Of course we love everybody, but it's tough love, rebuking ongoing sin, urging repentance for past sin, punishing preemptively future sin.

The is, if we tolerate your sin, you'll have to tolerate the flames of HELL. Then you'll really get to show off how good at tolerating stuff you are.

But wait! It doesn't have to be this way! Toss away those secular books Obama's brainwashing mills order you too read, and get the Bible! But first, get on your knees, repent your sins, and beg forgiveness from the LORD.

[GOD=life]

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I tolerate people. I tolerate people of other nationalities. I tolerate people of other race. I suppose I basically even tolerate homosexuality as long as they don't come on me (PARDON??? So sex with homers is OK, as long as their seed doesn't touch you?! FILTHY!) . I most certainly tolerate other religions.

Tolerating something doesn't equal accepting or respecting it. In fact, the very word implies that you look down on the thing you're tolerating. The dictionary confirms this:

tolerate
v 1: put up with something or somebody unpleasant; "I cannot bear his constant criticism"; "The new secretary had to endure a lot of unprofessional remarks"; "he learned to tolerate the heat"; "She stuck out two years in a miserable marriage" [syn: {digest}, {endure}, {stick out}, {stomach}, {bear}, {stand}, {support}, {brook}, {abide}, {suffer}, {put up}]

So basically, you're an arrogant douchebag who's soooo good, that he'll put up with all the inferior people.

Wow, thank you SO MUCH!

I will pray for you, dear imbecile

[propos]

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Love thy neighbor assumes you're living in a Christian neighborhood, so to speak. Your neighbor in God, people who believe the same way you do. I don't recall ever reading the love everybody unconditionally part.

I may have phrased it wrong, but here it is:
Matthew 5:43-48

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.