[Levi Jones]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

Wrong again sweetheart.

I'm 22.

You act like you are 16. Forgive my confusion.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

Sweetheart...I'm not talking about the man being murdered. I fully understand he committed suicide. I took the time to read the article so I got my facts straight. I'm talking about the idiots on here who wanted to kill the man themselves for being gay. THAT'S murder.

We do have to follow the secular laws. That means we cannot execute gays like the Bible tells us to.

It doesn't mean we can't wait for a day when we can follow Biblical Law. We already control the American Republican party.

Believe me, my love. I study English at University. I think I've got a pretty advanced grasp on the language and I do know what I hypocrite is. I do believe the correct terminology is: the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

So putting the term into conext: The commandment 'thou shalt not kill' is meant to be followed according to 'God'. But there's people on here who say that they wanted to stone this poor guy to death. That therefore makes them hypocrites because they are not practising what they preach.

Then why does the Bible call for death for so many crimes if we are not to kill?

Why does the Bible call for death to entire cities and tribes if we are not to kill?

Why does Paul say so many people are worthy of death in Romans 1:26-32.

[handmaiden]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

Woah. Since WHEN did enlightenment mean that we'd all start piffleing animals and shit in the street?

Enlightenment is the receiving and understanding of knowledge.

A more honest definition would be that enlightenment is the receiving and acceptance of knowledge that you, personally, find acceptable.

You may or may not be aware of this, but there are groups and organizations out there who are dead serious that they have the enlightened point of view when it comes to adults being permitted to have sex with minors. Others feel that they, and they alone, are truly enlightened because they do not eat animals or wear clothes derived in anyway from animals.

In years to come, it could become illegal to shear a sheep. That may sound absurd to you, but it is far more absurd to others that homosexual activity, which is expressly forbidden in many religious texts, should suddenly have legal standing.

Therefore it should be common knowledge these days that gay and lesbian people are more open about who they are because it is now understood by society that it should be nothing to ashamed of.

I cannot disagree that it is common knowledge that gays are more open about their status because society believes that it is nothing to be ashamed over. What I argue is that common knowledge is something to be applauded by the very nature of its commoness.

A large portion of Americans think that a woman has a right to an abortion. But when they hear of Chinese women regularly having abortions because they are carrying girl babies and only want to give birth to and raise sons, Americans are outraged.

In China, it is common knowledge that a male child offers status and security that a female child cannot. Women in China are fairly open and unashamed of their determination to have sons.

If 2,000 years means nothing in the timeline of an eternal 'God' then why do you celebrate this timeline with such events as Christmas and New Year? If the eternal-ness of God negates the timeline then surely it is pointless to celebrate such events?

I honestly cannot fathom how your statement above relates in any way to the point that I tried to offer.

The point at hand is that an eternal Divine Power does not measure time in the same manner as do mortal beings. If that Divine Power provided moral standards for humans to follow, then the passage of any amount of time has no bearing on the validity of the standards.

Thousands or years ago, people claimed to follow the God of the Bible and thus, accepted Biblical standards as the law of the land. Certain activities were expressly condemned and anyone caught participating in them received the punishment provided--again, by Biblical precedent. If the Bible named it a capital offense, people were killed.

People nowadays go around saying that God loves everybody and that He has no problems with gays. People like yourself seem to be saying that laws about killing gays were okay back then, but not now.

By that thinking, anyone who stoned or set fire to a homosexual was a good person then and God was fine with such activities. But, if someone does something like that now, they are a bad person and God does not approve.

Why would God say something was bad before, and now decide that it is not bad now?


So, here I ask the question, do you think that you are a good person because you do not want to punish gays? If you were a member of some community thousands of years ago and a gay person was brought before the crowd, what would you do?

Would you help to execute that person because it was common knowledge that their actions were evil? Would you sleep well that night knowing that you were doing what society told you to do?

Do you think that in some manner you are superior to me or anyone else because your standards of belief are fashionable?

At this time in America, it is fashionable to evoke God, providing He is not too strict. If someone were to stand up and ask for your vote and look you straight in the eye and say that he or she did not believe in God, would you vote for that person?

Your opinions of me and my beliefs hold little interest to me. Your opinions on gay rights don't really interest me either, because they are so very common.

What interests me here is whether you have the abilty to reach beyond what is commonly understood. Because, honestly, what passes for common understanding out there, amounts to no understanding at all.


Unfashionably Yours,

Handmaiden

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

Sorry, had to put the boys to bed.

Sweetheart...I'm not talking about the man being murdered. I fully understand he committed suicide. I took the time to read the article so I got my facts straight. I'm talking about the idiots on here who wanted to kill the man themselves for being gay. THAT'S murder.

Okay, so if you know he committed suicide, why are you asking us about the commandment not to murder? What exactly does one have to do with the other? In fact I quote

Isn't one of your 'commandments' thou shalt not murder?

Why did you bother to bring this up if you KNOW he wasn't murdered? Oh and killing a homosexual isn't murder, it's God's Law. You didn't bother to read all of the scripture about homosexuals I left for you, did you. No because you're such a smart atheist how DARE we try and confuse you with the facts.

Believe me, my love. I study English at University. I think I've got a pretty advanced grasp on the language and I do know what I hypocrite is. I do believe the correct terminology is: the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

Wow.... No, that is not what a hypocrite is. Whatever "university" you're going to, go in and demand your money back.

: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2
: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

So I would only be a hypocrite if I was in fact homosexual and stating that all homosexuals should kill themselves without leading by example.

So putting the term into conext: The commandment 'thou shalt not kill' is meant to be followed according to 'God'. But there's people on here who say that they wanted to stone this poor guy to death. That therefore makes them hypocrites because they are not practising what they preach.

You really don't get it, do you.
God tells us to kill homosexuals

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:27-31 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

However God also tells us we must obey the Law of the Land
Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Therefore we cannot put Godly laws into practice until we get more Godly politicians into the Government that will bring the law into line with the Bible. Oh and it will happen, look at what happened earlier this week.

Godly G.W. Bush? Seriously? The reason we're all piffleed in the recession is down to that man and his war mongering.

Oh right, it's all George Bush's fault. You know that he hasn't had any power for over 2 years right? Where's your Messiah? What has he done to make things better? They're worse than ever because that little commie muzzie is more concerned with his Obamacare and taking out Christians than he is with actually fixing things. But hey, you keep blaming Bush, hey why not blame all Christians?

And who said I'm an athiest? That's the problem with you folks on here...all you do is ASSUME. Do some research before you go shooting your mouth off about me.

Well you're not a Christian, so that makes you an atheist (one who doesn't believe in God) or would you rather I called you a Satanist (one who openly worships Satan under some stupid belief that Hell is one big party).


Edit:

Oh and don't call me Sweetheart, I don't know you, and I don't like you, I am obviously NOT your Sweetheart.

[unappalled worship]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

what the hell? Dear god you people are terrible. This boy's death was tragic was a horrible occurence. Just because he's gay automatically means he deserves to die?

And selfish not to allow others to stone him with rocks. What effed up logic is that. You people are the worst type of christians. This is insanity. No one deserves to die because of who they are, and calling his death selfish is a sin in itself.

People like you disgust me. How such ignorance could be allowed to exist stuns me

i believe that you are the one who isnt a true christian. only those ridden with satan in their veins could stand to accept a filthy homosexual demon. it is obvious that you are the worst kind of christian alive, the ones who never read or learn from the one book god gave us. is it that hard to read one book throughout your entire god given life? he goes and create's the miracle of life and you abominate it with love for freddie mercury and his fellowship of sin

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

This is disgusting. Anyone who supports this should be ashamed of themselves.

Isn't one of your 'commandments' thou shalt not murder?

You're all hypocrites to your 'religion' by wanting to stone this man to death because you would then be betraying the aforementioned commandment!!

Having a sexual preference for someone of the same gender is nothing to be ashamed of. Let's face it, Jesus and his disciples all had a bit of GAY in them! What with kissing each other all the time and spending all those evenings together at dinner parties. Gay gay gay.

Interesting take on this Miss Lauren.

How it is you assume we are the ones committing murder when the homer killed himself off when his abominable discretion was broadcast?

Obviously the fellow WAS ashamed of his life choice to practice homosexual acts or he would not have killed HIMSELF.

Please cite scripture from the KJV1611 supporting your assertion that Jesus and His Disciples kissed? I know there is only one instance and that was Judas Iscariot giving Jesus a quite literal kiss of death, rather than one of love.
How does that kiss fit into your take, which I gather you believe homosexual kissing is all about man LOVE, rather than betrayal and hatred?

If you had read the Bible and Matthew 26, you would know this kiss was the only one to have happened.

It is obvious that you are here merely to flame, rather than to learn what life with The Lord is all about. Is your life so darn miserable that you feel you have to try to take away others happiness as you are attempting (unsuccessfully might I add) to do here?

I won't say I feel sorry for you as you have created your own lot in life. You have to want to help yourself to see the Truth as no one can show it to you if you are so bitter and closed minded to it.

I will however pray for you that God shows you the RIGHT way to live.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

PS to Brother Levi. Gosh with her ranting brother, I believe you were quite generous when concluding she is 16! My guess was more like a tantrum throwing 12 yr old.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

Wow.... No, that is not what a hypocrite is. Whatever "university" you're going to, go in and demand your money back.

I noticed that, but she's probably getting her money's worth: many establishments give out 100% on anyything submitted, and everyone passes with a First (or high distinction, or whatever they call it). There's a list of "real" universities available internationally (internally) which ranks the merits of their various degrees - not every establishment is a centre of excellence in every discipline, of course. But we're not talking centres of excellence here. Other joints post out the degree of your choice upon payment of a fee:
$5,000 BSc (BS)
$10,000 MA
$15,000 MB
$17,500 MBBS
$25,000 MD
$100,000 DSc - but there aren't many of these, so if you bought one the other Doctors of Science would know
(some of them give you an exam to complete, but also provide the answers) etc.

Did someone mention the financial crisis was due to George W. Bush? Are they serious? It was due to affirmative action policies implemented by the Satanic Carter/Clinton claptrap machine, still operating in the form of nutjob Hilary Nutjob. She's been pontificating over here with our equally nutjob (or probably more nutjob, confessed atheist & fornicator) Prime Minister, Julia Nutjob - boy, what a commie lovefest: see it and puke! Can I say that?

What does The Bible say about contemporary standards, or the dynamic nature of acceptable behaviours?

Hebrews 13:8 ©1611 is probably a good starting point. The fulfillment of God's love towards us and of the many promises He made is Jesus Christ. And He is the same YESTERDAY, TODAY and FOREVER (for the benefit of English students that means "going into the future"). The consequences of certain behaviours do not become apparent immediately. AIDS is a good example of that. It is caused by sodomy between men. The demonic ranting of the political Left would wish otherwise, but it is so. Any other group that is infected has been initially envenomed by a homosexualist. That is why they die. God knew that 6,000 years ago. God loves us. God protects us.

IT IS NOT OUR "OPINION" THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINATION GOD STATES IT TO BE SO

The scripture for this has been so frequently quoted that it is a waste of time posting it again. So it is an abomination YESTERDAY, TODAY and FOREVER (or "going into the future"). Some aspects of God's pre-incarnation provision for us, in His Perfect Love, are no longer necessary AND HE SAID SO.

read Exodus 28:1 ©1611

God initiated a Priestly class to mediate between Himself and His creation. They made the sacrifices that were necessary lest God smite His wicked creation into the pit. If the priests erred, the people they represented were destroyed.

NUMBERS 16 ©1611
28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the Lord hath sent me to doe all these workes: for I haue not done them of mine owne mind.
29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men, then the Lord hath not sent me:
30 But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them vp, with all that appertaine vnto them, and they go downe quicke into the pit: then ye shall vnderstand that these men haue prouoked the Lord.
31 And it came to passe as he had made an ende of speaking all these words, that the ground claue asunder that was vnder them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them vp, and their houses, and all the men that appertained vnto Korah, and all their goods.
33 They, and all that appertained to them, went downe aliue into the pit, and the earth closed vpon them: and they perished from among the Congregation.
34 And all Israel that were round about them, fled at the crie of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow vs vp also.
35 And there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the two hundred and fiftie men that offered incense.

In His mercy, and in His Perfect Love, God knew that our wickedness would surely destroy us. When people think that they've "moved on" into a "higher enlightenment" they are destroyed with infinite suffering. God loves us so much that He made an end to corrupt and imperfect priests with a sacrifice that he provided Himself. . John 3:16 . Priests are therefore no longer necessary to slaughter animals and sprinkle their blood over us, because Jesus has been killed. His blood gushed out of His body on to the dirt (because he was gouged with a sword while He was still alive, so it was the blood of a living human - God's son - that sprinkled the dirt). . Hebrews 10:14 . By accepting the real efficacy of that Killing we receive the gift of salvation. Gross perverts do not accept that sacrifice.

Even demonic secularists know the cost to society of the filth those depraved wretches wallow in. One AIDS patient consumes so many resources that would save many NON PERVERT children, with inexpensive treatments that cannot be afforded because of the drain PERVERTS place on the health care system overall (however it may be funded). Atheist doctors study those PERVERSIONS to assess how many resources will be leeched by sodomites, how many children should die that they might live.

Facts About PERVERTS from the American College of Pediatricians®
(this is current 2010 report)

God told us we don't need priests to kill things any more, because Jesus was killed instead. HE DID NOT SAY THAT PERVERTS HAD SUDDENLY BECOME COOL. THEY ESCALATE THEIR FILTH JUST THE SAME. VICIOUS PERVERT IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS. THEN COMES HELL.

PRAISE HIM

[nessahasunicorn]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

It's sick, twisted people like you who make me thankful I left the church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXNbcvNpbXU

[Bionicp]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXNbcvNpbXU <--This is how it should be

[Bionicp]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

You people are fucked in the head, he killed himself because he didn't want to live in a world with people like you who commend people to death for no good reason. The bible is a 2000 year old STORY that some retard made up. There is no "God" and you people are proof of that.

[handmaiden]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

There is no "God" and you people are proof of that.

I am not certain how you went from point A (There is no "God") to point B (you people are proof of that).

Would you care to elaborate? And remember, you must show your work or you will automatically fail the exam.


Standardizedly Yours,

Handmaiden

[PraiseNewton]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

lavishing the death of a fellow human? you people are sad. Im proud to be going to hell if it means standing up to bullies like you.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

lavishing the death of a fellow human? you people are sad. Im proud to be going to hell if it means standing up to bullies like you.

If you are proud that you are going to hell, you are a sorry excuse for a human being. What is wrong with you? Only bad people, nonbelievers, joos,rag heads, dot heads, Hinidoos and such go to hell. Think about what you said and get right with Jesus!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

lavishing the death of a fellow human? you people are sad. Im proud to be going to hell if it means standing up to bullies like you.

We're what the death of a queer?

The Bible says nothing about suicide. It does say that homers deserve death, though.

[PraiseNewton]

Re: Gay man makes positive choice: kills self

If you are proud that you are going to hell, you are a sorry excuse for a human being. What is wrong with you? Only bad people, nonbelievers, joos,rag heads, dot heads, Hinidoos and such go to hell. Think about what you said and get right with Jesus!

what id get by going to heaven (or your definition of heaven) is spending an eternity with you lot, which to me sounds a whole lot like hell.