[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Excuse me, do you know the bible, assuming you are on this website you do. I am simply referring to the fact that Satan, had the ability of freewill (Or in other words a choice), which is why he was condemned from Heaven. But I relate all this to the choice of being Gay. If it is in fact a sin to be Gay, then it's a sin to choose anything. I'm sorry to go off-topic. But the idea that being Gay is a choice and is a sin, then so is being straight.

You are wrong, wrong, WRONG! Being straight is not a sin, and neither is following God, as you so insolently stated before. Show us where in the Bible it says it is a sin to procreate and follow God!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Excuse me, do you know the bible....

You mean that book that we quote and that you don't?

[Parallel]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Ahh, so, if they repent and praise to Jesus for all their sins, then they would be saved?, But then that would mean they could go to Heaven no matter the sin. If being Homosexual is such a sin, and it could easily be re-praised then why make a fuss about it?

[Parallel]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

But being straight is a choice, so is being Homosexual. I'm simply relating this to freewill the will of Satan. What I know Satan revolted against God when he was given the choice. So therefore Satan is all but what freewill is.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Ahh, so, if they repent and praise to Jesus for all their sins, then they would be saved?, But then that would mean they could go to Heaven no matter the sin. If being Homosexual is such a sin, and it could easily be re-praised then why make a fuss about it?

If only they would repent, then they could go to Heaven.

1st John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

But being straight is a choice, so is being Homosexual. I'm simply relating this to freewill the will of Satan. What I know Satan revolted against God when he was given the choice. So therefore Satan is all but what freewill is.

So? My head is bald. So are Tibetan monks. Does that make me a Tibetan monk? No it doesn't. Just because it is possible to relate two things doesn't mean they are the same in every respect. Again, don't be a complete retard.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

But being straight is a choice, so is being Homosexual. I'm simply relating this to freewill the will of Satan. What I know Satan revolted against God when he was given the choice. So therefore Satan is all but what freewill is.

This is no such thing as freewill. That is a lie of hippie churches like the Mary Worshiping Catholics. God is all powerful and all knowing. When He created the world He chose to create some people as Hell bound sodomites, ax murderers or liberals. That's why we all must turn to Jesus and repent of our sins.

[Parallel]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

You took my words completely out of context, I don't mean to offend anyone here. Simply saying, there is no freewill is wrong, because if we had no freewill then we would all worship God and be straight Christians, but there are Homosexuals, Muslims, and Catholics...

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

You took my words completely out of context, I don't mean to offend anyone here. Simply saying, there is no freewill is wrong, because if we had no freewill then we would all worship God and be straight Christians, but there are Homosexuals, Muslims, and Catholics...

Again, you need to check your conclusions against the Bible. It's a non sequitur to say that if we had no freewill, then we would all worship God and be straight Christians, since it denies God's sovereign right to implement whatever plan He chooses:

Romans 9:19-24: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

...if we had no freewill then we would all worship God and be straight Christians...

IF God had created us all the same, then yes. But He didn't:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

[Parallel]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Exactly my point, if he didn't create us all the same, then we should accept the people whom are different from us.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Exactly my point, if he didn't create us all the same, then we should accept the people whom are different from us.

We're does it say He want's us that way? Quit trying to blame God for your sins and take some personal responsibility.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Exactly my point, if he didn't create us all the same, then we should accept the people whom are different from us.

Really? Do you accept people who are different from you? If you say that you accept people with different sexual preferences how many peodo frinds have you got. I assume you wouldn't push them away just because of their sexual preference would you??

Jack

[Didymus Much]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Exactly my point, if he didn't create us all the same, then we should accept the people whom are different from us.

And of course you just neglected to provide Scriptural support for that view. Well, here's your chance.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Being Gay is a CHOICE: End of Discussion

Exactly my point, if he didn't create us all the same, then we should accept the people whom are different from us.

See the passage from Romans that I quoted above. Where does it say in the Bible that the vessels of mercy should accept the vessels of wrath?