[agnesaliencat]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I have worked with children before, and I can tell you that being a parent is definitely not for me. I don't hate children (never have), but I'm not going to even think about having children, as I'm just not cut out physically and mentally for stuff like that (got physical issues which would only get worse if I put my body under more strain than it is now). I also think that people who want children should look into the other option ie. adoption, as there are loads of children who don't have loving families, or have families that can't support them through whatever means.

And before you folks say that I was cursed to have physical issues because of my asexuality, I will mention one thing, as I was born with my physical issues, but I didn't know about my asexuality until a couple of years ago.

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I'm one of those people who believes in the possibility that the Christian God does exist but is not a member of Christianity. As for my asexuality, that's not because people don't want to have sex with me (I know a few people who do), but I don't want to have sex with anybody. I also don't blame you guys for how you think etc, and I could probably learn a lot from you guys because I am interested in learning about religion (even if I don't agree with what's written).

Now, before you make any assumption as to what I do identify as, it's kinda obvious in my username, as I am an Agnostic Theist. I also have a Bible, and I will admit that Atheists can be ignorant about Jesus because there is proof that he did actually exist. Not just that, but I adore religious music, and even if you turn out to hate me, that's okay, as I'll still have enough love in my heart for you.

1st Note: The Bible I have is a King James, but I can't read it, as it belonged to a family member that died years ago, and I don't want to damage the pages. What I do find myself doing, however, is listening to the bible online, and I think that everybody should do it (even Atheists).

2nd Note: Being asexual doesn't mean I'm not attracted to people (I do experience romantic attraction).

Brother Agnosticaliencat,
Welcome! I celebrate your asexuality and I hope that this is a situation that brings you joy as you do not have to concern yourself with the underpinnings that come along with sexual behavior.


I tolerate all people as I believe we should. When I relinquished my practice of Judaism, I felt a new freedom within my soul that was indescribable. Then I accepted Jesus and found that wasn't enough, so I dabbled in Rastafarianism. I wasn't very fulfilled with that, although I have some very good friends who are Rastafarian. Now I am looking at new age and eastern religions. I just purchased a book about our own deity, called "god is me and you," which has a forward by Shirley Maclaine. It is quite good so far.


Again, welcome to the forums; I hope you enjoy your stay.


Loving kindness,
Mike

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I'm one of those people who believes in the possibility that the Christian God does exist but is not a member of Christianity. As for my asexuality, that's not because people don't want to have sex with me (I know a few people who do), but I don't want to have sex with anybody. I also don't blame you guys for how you think etc, and I could probably learn a lot from you guys because I am interested in learning about religion (even if I don't agree with what's written).

Now, before you make any assumption as to what I do identify as, it's kinda obvious in my username, as I am an Agnostic Theist. I also have a Bible, and I will admit that Atheists can be ignorant about Jesus because there is proof that he did actually exist. Not just that, but I adore religious music, and even if you turn out to hate me, that's okay, as I'll still have enough love in my heart for you.

1st Note: The Bible I have is a King James, but I can't read it, as it belonged to a family member that died years ago, and I don't want to damage the pages. What I do find myself doing, however, is listening to the bible online, and I think that everybody should do it (even Atheists).

2nd Note: Being asexual doesn't mean I'm not attracted to people (I do experience romantic attraction).

We do not hate you, we love you. So much, that we have to warn you: as the Bible you listen is telling you several times, you are going to Hell. Don't get mad at us, it is God who created you and He has set the conditions for you to burn in hell forever.


But it is never too late. If you follow the Bible 100% from now on, you can be in Heaven too. Unless you have blasphemed against the Holy Ghost, of course.


So you will have to have sex with people (yes, you don't feel attraction. I also do not feel sexual attraction with my wife, and still we have procreation sex; that is not an excuse) The good news are: you don't have too like it - it is actually better that you don't- and you only have to do it in order to procreate. Having sex for fun is out of the table.


You also will have to follow some other rules, like hating a lot of people (the Jebusites, for example; please don't tell me that you like the Jebusites!) And as you are not a homo, according to you, you will be not so worried about what happens in the Book of Leviticus with them.


The rewards of becoming Christian are many. Did you know that you can pee living water, if you become a Christian?:


John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.



Yes! forget about common pee. Your Christian pee is super-pee!


I will be praying for you.

[agnesaliencat]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I'm one of those people who believes in the possibility that the Christian God does exist but is not a member of Christianity. As for my asexuality, that's not because people don't want to have sex with me (I know a few people who do), but I don't want to have sex with anybody. I also don't blame you guys for how you think etc, and I could probably learn a lot from you guys because I am interested in learning about religion (even if I don't agree with what's written).

Now, before you make any assumption as to what I do identify as, it's kinda obvious in my username, as I am an Agnostic Theist. I also have a Bible, and I will admit that Atheists can be ignorant about Jesus because there is proof that he did actually exist. Not just that, but I adore religious music, and even if you turn out to hate me, that's okay, as I'll still have enough love in my heart for you.

1st Note: The Bible I have is a King James, but I can't read it, as it belonged to a family member that died years ago, and I don't want to damage the pages. What I do find myself doing, however, is listening to the bible online, and I think that everybody should do it (even Atheists).

2nd Note: Being asexual doesn't mean I'm not attracted to people (I do experience romantic attraction).

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I joined this forum just so I could let you guys know that I'm asexual and it's as much a lifestyle choice as heterosexuality (ie. it's not).

Thanks for this piece of (unwanted) information.


Do you consider yourself a Christian? If you do, then you are as deluded as Princess Loser.


If oyu do not consider yourself a Christian, then goodbye, please do not shut the door too hard.


Just a quick question: when you say that being asexual is not a lifestyle choice, it is because you are so ugly that no one wants to copulate with you? So it is not your choice, but the choice of everyone else?


That is very sad, but nevertheless let me tell you that you have to broader your hunt: in Sout Mexico you will find women so ugly that even you will seem like a Kirk Cameron to them.

[agnesaliencat]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I joined this forum just so I could let you guys know that I'm asexual and it's as much a lifestyle choice as heterosexuality (ie. it's not).

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

I take heart that you are considering a flight to meet me.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Please try to stay on topic. I do not have any trouble arranging air travel when necessary.

Are you suggesting in contradiction to your most recently espoused fancy that the human mind is not part of the universe already? If consciousness emerges from brains, as the secularist must have it, and brains are made of atoms then humans minds are simply the conscious part of a self-aware universe. For such consciousness to exist surely our minds are already infused with the cosmos, there being no discontinuity at the atomic level from the air we breathe to the membranes of the lungs to the pyramidal cells which I must say seem rather overactive in some cases. Or take a magnetic image, I believe these are available. The geomagnetic field would be entirely continuous with the field surrounding the nervous system just as with the solar or Galactic magnetic fields.

I am not advocating such a model you understand but this is the sort of rubbish I hear from hard secularists. I don't think that describes you: you've only been a secularist for a day, is it? These atomic arrangements, they say, and these vast magnetic fields are like pigments in a picture of immense beauty. A self aware picture knowing.–.because we know.–.that not all of itself is visible to every eye comprising it.

Even though it is a single conscious entity we remain intact as individuals. Well then if we are intact as individuals surely we must accept friends as other selves and co-operate fully in the immediacy of our experience. To be other however is not sufficient to be a friend. Jesus keeps us focused on the task He has for us, to preach the Gospel to all creatures before the last day. That involves dissociating ourselves from the world and from people who spout different ideas than The Truth preserved for us in The Bible. These are not our friends and may look forward to torment, tooth gnashing and brimstone.

PROVERBS 14 . KJV . whole chapter
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man but the end thereof are the ways of death
13 Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful and the end of that mirth is heaviness
14a The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways

[Alvin Moss]

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Great things await the free spirit!

Yeah boy! Fire, molten sulfur, imps with sharp objects and all kinds of great things await.

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

Thank you, my darling Mitza, for celebrating my post through honoring it with a reply. The cosmos is flowing between us, always uniting us when necessary or separating us to prevent unhealthy storms. You see, Ma'am, I believe we are the victims of our belief systems, and I choose to no longer be a victim. By embracing that statement with dedication and steadfastness, I have released my energies rather than holding them captive. I have set myself free by setting my mind free. You can, too.


I think you and I should go on a date. As you know I am a man of means and can fly to you or you to me at my expense. You have a unique perspective of the world, one that is far more intellectual than your Landover counterparts.


I invite you to free your hidden love-lights, your covered-up joy bells, and your buried orgasmic pleasures by accepting the universe into your mind; refuse to judge or disdain any man or his way of life; refuse to criticize or demonize things that may differ from your experience thus far. Great things await the free spirit!


Yours,
Mike H

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

let go of the baggage you're carrying

I can't help but see in your words how blown thither you have been by the winds of vicissitude. There is no concept of co-existence in any of God's words. If there were you'd quote them. The baggage you see draped around others is your own. The heavy burden is your denial of God and your frequent turns are a response to His voice.

You may try to normalise your own destruction by encouraging others into your nightmare but God has made a way to leave that dreadful place behind. At every step you have been challenged, whether or not The Truth has been your objective, for you to see it is God's calling. He does not call everyone. The path of those He has called is not broad and smooth. There are obstacles to surmount and challenges along the narrow path but The Prince Of Peace makes sure that we, and you if He is calling you but if He's not then it's the city of Destruction and everlasting torment no matter where you seek and there's nothing you can do about it, that those who love Him make it through.

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There are many who think they're following God but they're not. Well, you don't come into that category do you. And now you're a secularist. Would you describe yourself as a hot or lukewarm secularist?

REVELATION 3 . KJV . look up
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

[Michael Hezekiah Esq]

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Princess,


If we could, let's take God out of the picture for a second and talk about it in more humanist, secular terms. I have recently embraced secular pluralism and have found that I have no need for an organized religion in order for my mind to feel free. I am formerly a practicing Jew who became a Christian, explored Christianity and then was lovingly accepted by the Rastafarians.


I was drawn to Mormonism for a time (about 2 weeks) but I just can't wrap my mind around some of their more idiotic statements. I thought about atheism, but in a sense, I think being against theism is not a kind way to live. I choose not to be against anything.


Let us not be concerned with what happens after life's journey. Rather, let us be concerned with this moment - for it is all we have. Let us be concerned with any future moments we are granted, and make sure those are filled with laughter and loving kindness. Let us not despise each other's diversity, but rather let us celebrate those things which make us different. My, what a boring world we would live in if everyone believed the same way!


The people of Landover are kind and hold fast to their beliefs. I celebrate that, as I am sure they will celebrate my decision to follow all faiths, not just one; they will support me because I do not jeer or point or make fun of them as some have. (That makes me sad)


So, Princess - perhaps you, too, can just let go of the baggage you're carrying and start seeing the good in ALL men. Instead of beating your head against a wall to prove something, what if - just what if - you said, "I celebrate you, even though we disagree."


However we got here, and whatever our fate may be, I believe the bonds of acceptance are too strong for any evil to break.


Let us coexist!

[Princess L]

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Dear Miss,
Could you please use just one verse from the Holy Bible (KJV1611).


YIC
TT
P.S. Do you have any sisters?

Point in fact. And fyi, go back and actually read my previous posts. I've used dozens.



Mitza also doesn't seem to understand that just because the Bible is the flawless word of God, your interpretations of it aren't necessarily true. I have not been pointing out contradictions in the Bible, but in your own dogmas.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God Hates Asexuals

This is getting boring. I provide substantial, clear scriptural references, and you lot keep harping on your views. I think I would get more reasonable discourse from a wall than from you all.

I find it fascinating that I can show clear examples about the difference between salvation and justification, and you simply ignore them and fall back to base attacks and the same mantras you've been touting all along. I do not appreciate your arrogance and rudeness, which is unbefitting of those who claim to be Children of God.

GENESIS 2 mentions many things which God created:

the earth and the heavens
every plant of the field
every herb
every tree
rivers
gold
bdellium
onyx
Ethiopia
Assyria
every beast of the field
every fowl of the air

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

No mention of any woman

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

This help meet for Adam was intended to be an animal.

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Adam checked out all the animals, gave them their names.–.but sadly none of them were quite suitable as an help meet for him, however useful they may have been in their way for pulling carts or something.–.and God had to come up with an alternative.

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

What would God do? His FIRST CHOICE for an help, meet for Adam, didn't work out.—.and before any atheists or wiccans or EMO darkwave worshippers get onto their usual theme of "so your God doesn't know what He's doing" I will point out that God knows EXACTLY what he is doing and this historical account shows us just how much God cares for His creation, which at this stage didn't include any women. God wanted Adam to be happy with his mate. He didn't just plonk down a hippopotamus and say

OK ADAM, HERE'S YOUR HELPER

but presented every animal and every bird for Adam's evaluation. That's how wonderful our God.—.the only God.—.really is!

And of course God did do something, although very much a PLAN B.

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Just as with the animals.—.The Bible presents God's first priority as getting the animals named and seeing if there was a suitable mate for Adam among them.—.Adam named this new thing.

GENESIS 2 . KJV . look up
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
23 And Adam said , This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

It is easy for us to say now, with the benefit of hindsight, that Adam would probably have been better off with the hippopotamus given how things turned out in Chapter 3 but God is not a deranged autocrat handing down arbitrary resolutions such as animal names or which one was best to mate with Adam. God's creation was PERFECT. It is not perfect now.

Did God ever intend to create Eve? I don't know. But woman was not God's first choice as a companion animal for Man.

The Bible is very clear that men can sell their daughters whenever they feel like it; God explains how to go about that. There are threads on these subjects so I won't post the scripture here. God is PERFECT. He knows what His plan is and has commanded that we do follow secular laws in the countries where we live. Naturally we do what He commands.

No-one has to accept what The Bible says although The Bible tells us that they deserve to be killed if they don't. God's message is clear. The Bible is not 50% true, or 87.5% true or even 99% true. The Bible is 100% TRUE. It is The Word of God; and to reject any part of it is to reject God. Christians do NOT reject God, even though we don't know what His plan is. That is not me saying that. It is God.

MATTHEW 24 . KJV . look up
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

[Thomas Taylor]

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............................yap................... .yap.........yappity.....yap.

Dear Miss,
Could you please use just one verse from the Holy Bible (KJV1611).


YIC
TT
P.S. Do you have any sisters?