Pretending to be Saved (unsubstantiated claims)

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Hello everybody, I was born from above in 1980, I live in Canada and am happily married, I rejoice with the truth and live talking about the Canon of 66 books. I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else.


Grace is unmerited favour, Romanites preach that they can earn salvation by earning unmerited favour, this is illogical since salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned. In the eyes of God there is no such thing as a good person, scripture tells us there is none good, there is nobody seeking God and ALL humans are born in sin.


I see myself as an undeserved sinner no better than any other human, why, because ALL humans are guilty sinners in thought word and deed. It’s all about sin and man needs a Savior.

All men? Are there any exceptions?

• Psalm 143:2 - And do not enter into judgment with Your servant, for in Your sight no man living is righteous.
• Galatians 3:22 - the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin
• Romans 11:32 - For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
• Romans 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
• 2 Chronicles 6:36 - there is no man who does not sin
• Isaiah 53:6 - All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way;
• Micah 7:2-4 - The godly person has perished from the land, and there is no upright person among men. All of them lie in wait for bloodshed; each of them hunts the other with a net. Concerning evil, both hands do it well. The prince asks, also the judge, for a bribe, and a great man speaks the desire of his soul; so they weave it together. The best of them is like a briar, the most upright like a thorn hedge.
• Romans 3:9-12 - What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one; there is none who understands, there is none who seeks for God; all have turned aside, together they have become useless; there is none who does good, there is not even one. (c.f. Psalm 14:1-3, 53:1-3)
• 1 John 1:8,10 - If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we say we have not sinned, we make [God] a liar and His word is not in us.
• Mark 10:18/Luke 18:19 - And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone."

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hello, and welcome to our forums! Tell us about yourself! What church do you attend? How do you best like to serve the LORD? What do you do for a living? How many children has your wife birthed for you?

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hello everybody, I was born from above in 1980, I live in Canada and am happily married, I rejoice with the truth and live talking about the Canon of 66 books. I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else.


Grace is unmerited favour, Romanites preach that they can earn salvation by earning unmerited favour, this is illogical since salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned. In the eyes of God there is no such thing as a good person, scripture tells us there is none good, there is nobody seeking God and ALL humans are born in sin.


I see myself as an undeserved sinner no better than any other human, why, because ALL humans are guilty sinners in thought word and deed. It’s all about sin and man needs a Savior.

All men? Are there any exceptions?

• Psalm 143:2 - And do not enter into judgment with Your servant, for in Your sight no man living is righteous.
• Galatians 3:22 - the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin
• Romans 11:32 - For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
• Romans 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
• 2 Chronicles 6:36 - there is no man who does not sin
• Isaiah 53:6 - All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way;
• Micah 7:2-4 - The godly person has perished from the land, and there is no upright person among men. All of them lie in wait for bloodshed; each of them hunts the other with a net. Concerning evil, both hands do it well. The prince asks, also the judge, for a bribe, and a great man speaks the desire of his soul; so they weave it together. The best of them is like a briar, the most upright like a thorn hedge.
• Romans 3:9-12 - What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one; there is none who understands, there is none who seeks for God; all have turned aside, together they have become useless; there is none who does good, there is not even one. (c.f. Psalm 14:1-3, 53:1-3)
• 1 John 1:8,10 - If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we say we have not sinned, we make [God] a liar and His word is not in us.
• Mark 10:18/Luke 18:19 - And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone."

"I live in Canada close to a lake and a lovely park."


How else can you live in Canada?

Welcome. Tell more about your church, you visit.
You use Canon printers? I prefer Brother.

Btw - you can find a Real Bible HERE

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

"I live in Canada close to a lake and a lovely park."


How else can you live in Canada?

Welcome. Tell more about your church, you visit.
You use Canon printers? I prefer Brother.

Btw - you can find a Real Bible HERE

LOL Thanks, I usually use KJV with E-Sword, her is an example.


2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good wor

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

blah blah blah In the eyes of God there is no such thing as a good person blah blah blah

Does that weirdo Bible of yours omit Genesis 6? I'm pretty sure that the Creator wouldn't entrust the future of all mankind to a bad person.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hello everybody, I was born from above in 1980, I live in Canada and am happily married, I rejoice with the truth and live talking about the Canon of 66 books. I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else.


Grace is unmerited favour, Romanites preach that they can earn salvation by earning unmerited favour, this is illogical since salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned. In the eyes of God there is no such thing as a good person, scripture tells us there is none good, there is nobody seeking God and ALL humans are born in sin.


I see myself as an undeserved sinner no better than any other human, why, because ALL humans are guilty sinners in thought word and deed. It’s all about sin and man needs a Savior.

All men? Are there any exceptions?

• Psalm 143:2 - And do not enter into judgment with Your servant, for in Your sight no man living is righteous.
• Galatians 3:22 - the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin
• Romans 11:32 - For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
• Romans 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
• 2 Chronicles 6:36 - there is no man who does not sin
• Isaiah 53:6 - All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way;
• Micah 7:2-4 - The godly person has perished from the land, and there is no upright person among men. All of them lie in wait for bloodshed; each of them hunts the other with a net. Concerning evil, both hands do it well. The prince asks, also the judge, for a bribe, and a great man speaks the desire of his soul; so they weave it together. The best of them is like a briar, the most upright like a thorn hedge.
• Romans 3:9-12 - What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one; there is none who understands, there is none who seeks for God; all have turned aside, together they have become useless; there is none who does good, there is not even one. (c.f. Psalm 14:1-3, 53:1-3)
• 1 John 1:8,10 - If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we say we have not sinned, we make [God] a liar and His word is not in us.
• Mark 10:18/Luke 18:19 - And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone."

Hi. Welcome to the forum. In your introduction you mentioned that you “I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else” which directly contradicts Scripture. If you are a Christian. True Christians are commanded to be perfect.

Matthew 5
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
KJV .. look up . context

Are you stating that you've chosen to disregard this Commandment?

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hi. Welcome to the forum. In your introduction you mentioned that you “I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else” which directly contradicts Scripture. If you are a Christian. True Christians are commanded to be perfect.

Matthew 5
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
KJV .. look up . context

Are you stating that you've chosen to disregard this Commandment?

True but no human is able to be 100% perfect all the time, this is why we need a Savior, the Christian perfection is ONLY because of what Christ has done for them, they are only perfect because of Christ, God demands nothing less than 100% perfection and He will not wink at sin.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Does that weirdo Bible of yours omit Genesis 6? I'm pretty sure that the Creator wouldn't entrust the future of all mankind to a bad person.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

The Old Covenant is obsolete, we are now in the New and better Covenant with better promises.


Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.


Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hello, and welcome to our forums! Tell us about yourself! What church do you attend? How do you best like to serve the LORD? What do you do for a living? How many children has your wife birthed for you?

Hello Mary, that's not my cup of tea. Ok ok, my wife birthed four children, three boys and a girl, they are all grown up and the old fart lives in peace with my wife. I have driven school bus for eight years.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Hello, and welcome to our forums! Tell us about yourself! What church do you attend? How do you best like to serve the LORD? What do you do for a living? How many children has your wife birthed for you?

Hello Mary, that's not my cup of tea. ok ok my wife birthed four children, they are all grown up, now I live in peace with my wife.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Does that weirdo Bible of yours omit Genesis 6? I'm pretty sure that the Creator wouldn't entrust the future of all mankind to a bad person.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Let's not fool ourselves, we both know that Noah was a sinner and sinned his whole life and because of disobedience was not allowed to enter the land of promise land. The ONLY reason why Noah was favored was because God bestowed unmerited favor towards him, ALL are sinners and ALL have sinned, there is no such thing as a good person in the eyes of God because ALL are sinners.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Does that weirdo Bible of yours omit Genesis 6? I'm pretty sure that the Creator wouldn't entrust the future of all mankind to a bad person.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I do not deny the Old Testament but say in the area of Soteriology the Old is obsolete and the New is a better covenant. That being said I also believe that a few Jews were saved, but not by works but by belief in God and looking to the promised Messiah who was a foreshadow of things to come.


Heb_8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Let's not fool ourselves, we both know that Noah was a sinner and sinned his whole life and because of disobedience was not allowed to enter the land of promise land. The ONLY reason why Noah was favored was because God bestowed unmerited favor towards him, ALL are sinners and ALL have sinned, there is no such thing as a good person in the eyes of God because ALL are sinners.

Noah, promised land? What on Earth is this?

Let's see:

Genesis 9:1
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Genesis 9:28-29
And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

Well, he seems to have been getting along with God fairly well.

Ever heard of Moses and the promised land?
Numbers 20:12
And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

What is this? You confuse Noah with Moses? The Bible with the Mahabharata perhaps!? People who know nothing about the Bible claim to be Christians?




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Howdy I have been asked to answer three questions.


1. The fellowship that I attend is the First Baptist.


2.My favorite bible verse is Romans 9:13


3. I was saved by Grace through faith not by works lest anybody should BOAST. I was brought up in an ungodly heathen family, one day when I was a rebellious 19 year old God hating atheist, four Christians planted themselves with their instruments in the center of our Town Houses and started singing Christian songs, my friends and I laughed at them, but before we left I asked a question, I asked how can there be a God, who created God and who created the God that created God? The answer was, "you need to believe by faith" We then left but I believe that was a seed planted that caused me to question why we are here and that there must be more to life than I am experiencing, a couple of months later someone gave me a gospel track, that really made me wonder and made me zealously search for truth, next, when I was security guard on or for a bridge under construction this old fellow meet me on the 10th street bridge in Calgary Alberta and shared the gospel with me, I then prayed with him and I acknowledged that I was a sinner in need of a Savior, the next day my family and friends thought I was a nutcase because all I talked about was the bible, halleluiah I was a new creature!

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Re: Saved by Grace (unmerrited favor)

Noah, promised land? What on Earth is this?

Let's see:

Genesis 9:1
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Genesis 9:28-29
And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

Well, he seems to have been getting along with God fairly well.

Ever heard of Moses and the promised land?
Numbers 20:12
And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

What is this? You confuse Noah with Moses? The Bible with the Mahabharata perhaps!? People who know nothing about the Bible claim to be Christians?




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

You are off topic, we were searching the scriptures to see if there is such thing as a good person and have decided, because ALL have sinned there is no such thing, and God requires nothing less than 100% perfection 24/7 and he will not wink at sin, not even one little white lie.