Howdy from a noobie

[friuliveneto]

Good morning pilgrims. I was interested to see what was being said on the web today about Mormons and did a google search for the last 24 hours. I came across a thread alleging problems with the Book of Mormon and I thought I'd like to join the discussion. It took a while to get registered though and if allowed to participate, I'd like to. I believe in being ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh--woman too.

I'm a grandpa, not yet retired, and love the Bible--but I can't decide which version I prefer.


I am a devout Mormon and have taught LDS theology for about 25 years in a college setting (LDS Institute of Religion). I have participated on web sites such as this before; but I'm inconsistent. Right now we're in a break between semesters so I have more time than when classes are in session. I love to read, and just finished a fascinating book that I believe is devastating to the theory of spontaneous generation of life and Darwinian evolution titled, "Signature in the Cell" by Stephen Meyer. I suspect the next book I read will be by the same author and titled "Darwin's Doubt."


Alma Allred

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Good morning pilgrims. I was interested to see what was being said on the web today about Mormons and did a google search for the last 24 hours. I came across a thread alleging problems with the Book of Mormon and I thought I'd like to join the discussion. It took a while to get registered though and if allowed to participate, I'd like to. I believe in being ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh--woman too.

I'm a grandpa, not yet retired, and love the Bible--but I can't decide which version I prefer.


I am a devout Mormon and have taught LDS theology for about 25 years in a college setting (LDS Institute of Religion). I have participated on web sites such as this before; but I'm inconsistent. Right now we're in a break between semesters so I have more time than when classes are in session. I love to read, and just finished a fascinating book that I believe is devastating to the theory of spontaneous generation of life and Darwinian evolution titled, "Signature in the Cell" by Stephen Meyer. I suspect the next book I read will be by the same author and titled "Darwin's Doubt."


Alma Allred

A cautious welcome, to you.

With a few Words of Christ I can demolish mormonism for you.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

And Darwin did not believe in spontaneous generation. He believed in evolution. The two are only similar in being a viscous attack on Jesus.

YIC

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Hello Alma, and a cautious welcome to you! Such a pretty name - one of the cleaning ladies in our church (by which I mean my temporary church here in England, not Landover Baptist Church) is called Alma.

I am curious about your username, encompassing as it does both banks of the Livenza (though I suppose at least it excludes the Godless ex-Jugoslav lands of Trieste). Do tell us how you came to choose it. My husband's late step-grandmother spent a considerable number of years in Friuli, where she attempted (totally without success) to witness to the Mormon boys - always so smartly dressed, with their white shirts and well-pressed trousers, as they bicycled around Gorizia, avoiding eye-contact.

YiC
JL-V

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Hello Alma, and a cautious welcome to you! Such a pretty name - one of the cleaning ladies in our church (by which I mean my temporary church here in England, not Landover Baptist Church) is called Alma.

I am curious about your username, encompassing as it does both banks of the Livenza (though I suppose at least it excludes the Godless ex-Jugoslav lands of Trieste). Do tell us how you came to choose it. My husband's late step-grandmother spent a considerable number of years in Friuli, where she attempted (totally without success) to witness to the Mormon boys - always so smartly dressed, with their white shirts and well-pressed trousers, as they bicycled around Gorizia, avoiding eye-contact.

YiC
JL-V

The handle was a result of frustration about 25 years ago, when I was trying to find a user name for yahoo. I tried all kinds of names that were either too short or already taken. Finally in desperation, I grabbed a compound name from Italian and it worked. I suspect those boys avoiding eye contact were doing so on bicycles trying not to become road kill from a frenetic Italian traffic model.


The name Alma comes from the Book of Mormon. Although most people named Alma are females (due to the Latin word meaning "soul,") if you find a guy named Alma, he's most likely a Mormon--or an ancient resident of Palestine (see documents from the Bar Kochba Cave).


Alma

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

A cautious welcome, to you.

And Darwin did not believe in spontaneous generation.

YIC

I'm not aware of what Darwin claimed for the origins of life--that's why I referred to two things: evolution and spontaneous generation. However, most of those who subscribe to entirely random selection for the differentiation of species are left with little more than spontaneous generation for the origin of life.


Alma

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Welcome to our friendly forum, dear, and thank you for the kind introduction! You're welcome to join any conversation, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts about Brother Pim's painstaking, and Spirit-Led expose of the Mormon bibles.

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Thanks for your welcome. Do you know how I can get upgraded from "unsaved trash" to "ordinary trash?"

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Thanks for your welcome. Do you know how I can get upgraded from "unsaved trash" to "ordinary trash?"

It's all in the eyes of God, dear. You are, like every soul born on earth, trash (Isaiah 64:6) and destined for Hell (John 3:18) until and only unless you repent of your sinful ways and accept Christ in your heart (Romans 10:9). That means, repenting of your silly Mormon beliefs and accepting Christ for who He says He is, not for what you want Him to be.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

I suspect those boys avoiding eye contact were doing so on bicycles trying not to become road kill from a frenetic Italian traffic model.

How very prejudiced you are! Had you ever visited Gorizia (though I really don't recommend it - we went there once to help Dorothy move back to England and the food was disgusting) then you would know that the main street has broad sidewalks, incorporating cycle paths, separated from the traffic by grass verges.




They were just refusing to engage with her, a thoroughly decent, God-fearing, True Christian woman.

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

It's all in the eyes of God, dear. You are, like every soul born on earth, trash (Isaiah 64:6) and destined for Hell (John 3:18) until and only unless you repent of your sinful ways and accept Christ in your heart (Romans 10:9). That means, repenting of your silly Mormon beliefs and accepting Christ for who He says He is, not for what you want Him to be.

I've given it some thought and now I think I'll aim for "recycled trash." That way, I can work on saving the whole world.


AA

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

I've given it some thought and now I think I'll aim for "recycled trash." That way, I can work on saving the whole world.


AA

You silly Mormons, always adding to Scripture to suit your wishes.
You'll burn for that, you know.
Which is fine by Jesus (Psalm 2:4). Stubborn people don't deserve eternal paradise (Luke 16:19-31).

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

How very prejudiced you are! ...They were just refusing to engage with her, a thoroughly decent, God-fearing, True Christian woman.

That seems pretty consistent with my experience. We generally avoided those types and usually tried to convert thoroughly indecent, atheist, communists. --Remember, "they that be whole need not a physician." We were basically looking for trash rather than Christians.


AA

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

Thanks for your welcome. Do you know how I can get upgraded from "unsaved trash" to "ordinary trash?"

Hello, Alma, and welcome to the forum! I would be very interested to hear how you can still belive in the Book of Momon despite all the evidence suggesting it was a fabrication by Joseph Smith.


And just so you know, even unsaved trash can reply to existing threads, so if you want to respond directly to my BoM thread (or any other thread), you can do so.

[friuliveneto]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

You silly Mormons, always adding to Scripture to suit your wishes.
You'll burn for that, you know.
Which is fine by Jesus (Psalm 2:4). Stubborn people don't deserve eternal paradise (Luke 16:19-31).

You forget, you're talking to a Mormon. I can make up scripture faster than you can cite from your limited 66 books. Whatever you claim, I can raise you with something new and exciting.


AA

[Roland]

Re: Howdy from a noobie

You forget, you're talking to a Mormon. I can make up scripture faster than you can cite from your limited 66 books. Whatever you claim, I can raise you with something new and exciting.


AA

Hello Alma,

As exciting as that may sound to you, such things can also work against you. Especially if a person happened to drop by that is able to make up even bigger nonsense than you are.

Kind regards,

Roland