[Silent Shadow]

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I think I'll concentrate on your argument, rather than your empty insults.

And this is wrong.
Faith in Jesus will produce works, without works, faith is dead.
Thus Jesus will judge according to these.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:20

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
And then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:27

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
And they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:13

I agree but you put too much emphasis on works (and tithing, and appearance, and the world in general) to focus on faith.

[SalvationSeeker]

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I agree but you put too much emphasis on works (and tithing, and appearance, and the world in general) to focus on faith.

So you realise it's the truth and then you refuse to follow?
Real smart.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

Jesus recognises that our faith will show in our works, why don't you?

[Silent Shadow]

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So you realise it's the truth and then you refuse to follow?
Real smart.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

Jesus recognises that our faith will show in our works, why don't you?

Tithing won't get you to heaven, neither will appearance. Let the faith grow and the fruits will manifest themselves in due time. Get the behavior down-pat then enforce the faith and you'll end up like you are now. Having people argue your faith. I respect people's beliefs. The Bible makes life better. I just can't seem to believe that you truly care about others with the love of Jesus.

[Brother V]

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I agree but you put too much emphasis on works (and tithing, and appearance, and the world in general) to focus on faith.

Are you sure?

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Friend, you are taking the easy way out. Running around saying "i have faith i have faith". Hoping maybe someday you might say it loud enough that you did; and that someone might believe you.

The only way people will know that you have faith is by your telling them you do.

How do people know WE have faith? (guess what, we don't have to tell people) People know we are True Christians (tm) by our actions.

I'm sure people confuse you with the rest of the unwashed, unclean masses all the time.

We are never confused with them.

Do you know what Jesus Himself said about people who only professed Him by name, without DOING anything?

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Are you a doer? or a sayer?

Actions speak louder than words?

Jesus isn't hard of hearing, but all those people running around yelling "LORD LORD" he grows weary of it. You know what, he doesn't miss seeing anything! Why? Because people who actually DO the will of the Father are few and far between!

YIC
V

[Silent Shadow]

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Are you sure?

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Friend, you are taking the easy way out. Running around saying "i have faith i have faith". Hoping maybe someday you might say it loud enough that you did; and that someone might believe you.

The only way people will know that you have faith is by your telling them you do.

How do people know WE have faith? (guess what, we don't have to tell people) People know we are True Christians (tm) by our actions.

I'm sure people confuse you with the rest of the unwashed, unclean masses all the time.

We are never confused with them.

Do you know what Jesus Himself said about people who only professed Him by name, without DOING anything?

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Are you a doer? or a sayer?

Actions speak louder than words?

Jesus isn't hard of hearing, but all those people running around yelling "LORD LORD" he grows weary of it. You know what, he doesn't miss seeing anything! Why? Because people who actually DO the will of the Father are few and far between!

YIC
V

Jesus said that they will know you are my disciples by your love for one another. There is NO LOVE here!!

[Brother V]

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Jesus said that they will know you are my disciples by your love for one another. There is NO LOVE here!!

Wrong, there is lots and lots of love.

We love the Lord with all our soul, all our might, and all our strength.

By giving all, how could I have any leftover love for you?

Or do you cheat God out of some of ALL of your love?

Friend, why do you steal from the LORD?

V

[Silent Shadow]

Re: I'm New Here

What are your motivations for saving others?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: I'm New Here

For one who calls him or herself "Silent Shadow", you sure don't live up to your name. Perhaps "Ranting Shadow" would have been a far better choice for an alias (and despite your desperate grasp for anonymity, Jesus knows who you are so you can't try to argue that this wasn't you come Judgement Day).

[SalvationSeeker]

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What are your motivations for saving others?

We are commanded to, we don't have any motivations of our own, nor do we involve our own will in the matter.
We only care about God's will, that's where we differ from each other.
As you only care about YOUR will.

Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity;
But thou hast delivered thy soul.
Ezekiel 3:19

Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:
Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Leviticus 19:17

[Silent Shadow]

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For one who calls him or herself "Silent Shadow", you sure don't live up to your name. Perhaps "Ranting Shadow" would have been a far better choice for an alias (and despite your desperate grasp for anonymity, Jesus knows who you are so you can't try to argue that this wasn't you come Judgement Day).

Good point. The point of the alias is that you have no idea who or where I am. Anyway, what are your motivations for saving others. P.S. Might wanna change my title from "Moving toward the light" to "Exposing the False Light"

[SalvationSeeker]

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Might wanna change my title from "Moving toward the light" to "Exposing the False Light"

Rather: "Exposed by the light."

[Silent Shadow]

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We are commanded to, we don't have any motivations of our own, nor do we involve our own will in the matter.
We only care about God's will, that's where we differ from each other.
As you only care about YOUR will.

Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity;
But thou hast delivered thy soul.
Ezekiel 3:19

Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:
Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Leviticus 19:17

So if God didn't say "Go save people", you wouldn't? You don't love those people enough to realize that they are going to suffer for all eternity and prevent it? My motivation is love. Not only for God but for the unsaved.

[SalvationSeeker]

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So if God didn't say "Go save people", you wouldn't?

YOU WOULD?
So you would oppose God allmighty?

I think it's pretty clear who're the Christians here, we.
You only want to follow your own ideas.

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
But whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:6

You don't love those people enough to realize that they are going to suffer for all eternity and prevent it? My motivation is love. Not only for God but for the unsaved.

God doesn't command us to love the unsaved. Quite the opposite:
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:
For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Corinthians 6:14-15

[Silent Shadow]

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YOU WOULD?
So you would oppose God allmighty?

I think it's pretty clear who're the Christians here, we.
You only want to follow your own ideas.

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
But whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:6



God doesn't command us to love the unsaved. Quite the opposite:
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:
For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2 Corinthians 6:14-15

Love them but don't be influenced by them. There is a difference. You can love someone without liking them. You'll cry at their funeral but you won't go on vacation with them. You know what I mean. You are commanded to "love your neighbor as yourself". Do you?

[SalvationSeeker]

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Love them but don't be influenced by them. There is a difference. You can love someone without liking them. You'll cry at their funeral but you won't go on vacation with them. You know what I mean. You are commanded to "love your neighbor as yourself". Do you?

I explained what neighbour means in another thread.
You misunderstand it.

What we are to do is follow Jesus, to try to be like Him in everything.
Even if it means that the unsaved world will shun us:
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10:38

So, if Jesus hates something, it is only natural that we follow isn't it?
So then, what does Jesus hate?
Let me just give you a quick example:

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
Thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 5:5

As clearly shown, the Lord Jesus hates wicked and foolish people.
Thus, we follow Him and do the same. What is wrong with that?
Are you saying God is wrong in hating these people?

And are you saying God loves the unsaved? If they are unsaved, then they are also wicked, I might add..
Why does He want them killed then?
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
2 Chronicles 15:13

And don't object to the O.T because remember, God never changes!
He is the same God as He was in the Old Testament.

For I am the LORD, I change not;
Therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Malachi 3:6

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
And cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
James 1:17