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  • fiat lux
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    • Jan 2007
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    #1

    hello

    I find your church policy very close to my heart, so i decided to join it, only if you think that my worthless soul deserve to be saved, of course.

    I have some concern though, and it's bugging me for some time. It is pretty obvious that after they killed His Son, the jews ceased to remain God's chosen people and also it is obvious that the new chosen people are the americans. Now my question is this: can a non-american (a european for example) really be a real True Christian?
    Does the fact that i'm male, i'm white and i have a not so a negligible bank account might have any relevance with my salvation?

    Please answer me cause the visions of hell are haunting me and i have nightmares with demons every night.

    Prayse the Lord, for onely great and mercifull is hee
  • SalvationSeeker
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    #2
    Re: hello

    Originally posted by fiat lux View Post
    I find your church policy very close to my heart, so i decided to join it, only if you think that my worthless soul deserve to be saved, of course.
    Good, good.
    Yes, worthless as it may be, we will still try to Save it as the Lord commands us.

    I have some concern though, and it's bugging me for some time. It is pretty obvious that after they killed His Son, the jews ceased to remain God's chosen people and also it is obvious that the new chosen people are the americans. Now my question is this: can a non-american (a european for example) really be a real True Christian?
    Yes, joos are indeed abandoned by God, and if one doesn't believe the Bible for it (the nerve!), the holocaust should be clear enough evidence.
    Good that you realise this.

    Through God, all things are possible.
    Even europeans can be saved, as long as they repent of their vile homersexuality.

    Does the fact that i'm male, i'm white and i have a not so a negligible bank account might have any relevance with my salvation?
    Everything we have, are, or do, has a relevance to our Salvation.

    Please answer me cause the visions of hell are haunting me and i have nightmares with demons every night.

    Prayse the Lord, for onely great and mercifull is hee
    Your spelling needs to improve however.
    Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 01-17-2007, 09:43 PM.
    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
    Proverbs 9:12-13

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    • SalvationSeeker
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      #3
      Re: hello

      And answer me this:

      What lies have your "feelgood" pastors filled you with?
      What do you truly know about Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour?
      What Bible do you read? What sins have you commited?

      Time to come clean if you want to earn Jesus mercy.
      Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 01-17-2007, 10:45 PM. Reason: Minor corrections
      If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
      A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
      Proverbs 9:12-13

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      • WickedWitch
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        • Jan 2007
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        #4
        Re: hello

        Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
        Time to come clean if you want to earn Jesus mercy.
        *Giggles* Now, you really mustn't take this offensively, I'm not poking fun at the accidental omitance of the apostrophe, everybody makes mistakes... I'm just pointing out something I noticed because of it. It's just... without "Jesus' mercy" being possessive... It sounds like a product of some kind. *Chuckles* Maybe a perfume or a hair gel or a deodorant.


        "Oh look, Mom! Wal-Mart has Jesus Mercy on sale for only $15!"


        Their slogan could be: "Jesus Mercy: He'll save your soul, and we'll save everyone else from your BO!" - Lmao! *Wanders off into the distance giggling to herself*
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        • Pastor Al E Pistle
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          • Sep 2006
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          #5
          Re: hello

          Originally posted by fiat lux View Post
          Does the fact that i'm male, i'm white and i have a not so a negligible bank account might have any relevance with my salvation?
          Of course not!
          Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
          "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
          Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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          • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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            • Dec 2006
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            #6
            Re: hello

            Originally posted by Undecided View Post
            *Giggles* Now, you really mustn't take this offensively, I'm not poking fun at the accidental omitance of the apostrophe, everybody makes mistakes... I'm just pointing out something I noticed because of it. It's just... without "Jesus' mercy" being possessive... It sounds like a product of some kind. *Chuckles* Maybe a perfume or a hair gel or a deodorant.


            "Oh look, Mom! Wal-Mart has Jesus Mercy on sale for only $15!"


            Their slogan could be: "Jesus Mercy: He'll save your soul, and we'll save everyone else from your BO!" - Lmao! *Wanders off into the distance giggling to herself*
            When the day comes that we're finally free to follow God's law on this continent once again, you're going to have once choice - would you rather be burned on a wood or coal fire?
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            1 Timothy 2:13-15 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
            Bearing my husband's heirs and being SAVED!

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            • WickedWitch
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              • Jan 2007
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              #7
              Re: hello

              Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
              When the day comes that we're finally free to follow God's law on this continent once again, you're going to have once choice - would you rather be burned on a wood or coal fire?
              I think that was a little uncalled for. I wasn't being rude or sarcastic. I saw something humourous and was sharing it with the rest of the forum. Why would you say something like that when I'm not misbehaving?


              (And that's actually two choices. Two choices, one decision.)
              Last edited by WickedWitch; 01-18-2007, 04:03 AM.
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              • Mrs. Mary Whitford
                Ladies of Landover Senior VP
                One of the Truest Christians™ Ever
                Mama Grizzly and formerly Sister Mary Maria
                True Christian™
                • Dec 2006
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                #8
                Re: hello

                Not doing anything? You were mocking Jesus! How would you like it if we mocked Beelzebub or whatever demon it is you worship?
                Posted via Prayer

                1 Timothy 2:13-15 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
                Bearing my husband's heirs and being SAVED!

                Blogging for CHRIST!
                Witnessing for GOD on YouTube!
                All a-Twitter for Salvation!
                Bringing Jesus to MySpace!
                On FIRE for the Lord on Facebook!
                My Ladies of Landover profile!

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                • fiat lux
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                  #9
                  Re: hello

                  Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
                  And answer me this:

                  What lies have your "feelgood" pastors filled you with?
                  What do you truly know about Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour?
                  What Bible do you read? What sins have you commited?

                  Time to come clean if you want to earn Jesus mercy.
                  What lies have your "feelgood" pastors filled you with?
                  They weren't pastors, they were priests. My folks are catholic you know, they brought me to church when i was a kid. Now i no longer go to church cause i'm not sure if their teachings are in accordance with the Word of God.

                  What do you truly know about Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour?
                  Well, about what priests told me when i was child, like Jesus is good and he loves people and if we pray to Him, He'll save us and stuff. But i try to improve my knowledge by reading the Bible.

                  What Bible do you read?
                  A catholic Bible. Why, aren't all the Bibles the same?

                  What sins have you commited?
                  Well, the usual stuff: lies, drinking, impure thoughts, coveting for other's women, fornication...but i prayed to Jesus to forgive my sins, and He will, right?
                  Btw, is driving without a licence considered a sin? Do i have to pray to forgive that too?

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                  • SalvationSeeker
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                    #10
                    Re: hello

                    Originally posted by fiat lux View Post
                    They weren't pastors, they were priests. My folks are catholic you know, they brought me to church when i was a kid. Now i no longer go to church cause i'm not sure if their teachings are in accordance with the Word of God.
                    They aren't in accordance at all.
                    The cathylick church is an abomination that besmirches Christ's good name.
                    Let me give you a few examples.

                    Cathylick priests are called "father", and "pope" means father in latin.
                    But what did God say:

                    And call no man your father upon the earth:
                    For one is your Father, which is in heaven
                    Matthew 23:9

                    Were there any idols in the church were you "worshipped" as a child?
                    Such as statues of Mary, saints, Jesus Himself and so on?
                    But God said:

                    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above,
                    or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
                    Exodus 20:4

                    Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image,
                    Neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it:
                    For I am the LORD your God.
                    Leviticus 26:1

                    Also, nowhere does the Holy Bible recognise a pope!

                    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
                    1 Timothy 2:5

                    Well, about what priests told me when i was child, like Jesus is good and he loves people and if we pray to Him, He'll save us and stuff. But i try to improve my knowledge by reading the Bible.
                    As usual, they only gave you one side of the coin.
                    Jesus is good to those who know Him, but He doesn't have any mercy for those who don't believe.

                    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
                    No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
                    John 14:6

                    They're all doomed to eternal hellfire, and don't trust the antichrist pope, hell is a VERY REAL and VERY NASTY place!
                    Avoiding it should be your top priority in life, next to worshipping Jesus Christ of course.

                    Neither will mere words save one from hell, words cannot save.
                    True faith is shown in your works, if you have no works, your faith is dead.

                    But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
                    James 2:20

                    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
                    But he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
                    Matthew 7:21

                    A catholic Bible. Why, aren't all the Bibles the same?
                    No.
                    Cathylicks have satanic additions known as "apocrypha" in their bibles, such as the book of tobit.
                    Also, there is only one version of Bible that has not been perverted by modern translators or papist dogs seeking to alter the Word to suit their wordly agenda.

                    And that version is the King James Version from 1611.

                    Well, the usual stuff: lies, drinking, impure thoughts, coveting for other's women, fornication...but i prayed to Jesus to forgive my sins, and He will, right?
                    Btw, is driving without a licence considered a sin? Do i have to pray to forgive that too?
                    Jesus forgives all sins except one; blaspheming the holy ghost.
                    Pray you have never commited that sin.

                    However, the fact that you have comitted sins since "accepting" Jesus, shows that you never truly accepted Him in your heart.
                    If you had, you couldn't have sinned.
                    Once you truly accept Jesus you can no longer sin:

                    Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
                    Whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
                    Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.
                    1 John 3:6-7

                    But don't worry, we will help you get to know the REAL Jesus here.

                    Originally posted by Undecided View Post
                    I think that was a little uncalled for. I wasn't being rude or sarcastic.
                    I saw something humourous and was sharing it with the rest of the forum. Why would you say something like that when I'm not misbehaving?
                    Your whole comment was uncalled for, unless you have something useful to say, keep your mouth shut as women should.
                    I've already warned you once, harlot. The next time you act like this we're coming by and it's off to the woodshed for a Godly whooping.
                    Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 01-18-2007, 02:54 PM.
                    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                    Proverbs 9:12-13

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                    • fiat lux
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                      #11
                      Re: hello

                      QUOTE]And call no man your father upon the earth:
                      For one is your Father, which is in heaven

                      Matthew 23:9
                      [/QUOTE]

                      You mean I should take this verse literally? Isn't it some kind of metaphor? I mean I have a (biological) father, how should i call him?

                      For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
                      1 Timothy 2:5
                      But what about priests or pastors? There are people who, even if they read the Bible, they don't quite understand it or worse, they get the message in the wrong way. Therefore there must be someone out there to explain it to them in a rightful way, and those persons are the pastors or the priests. Aren't they , then, some kind of mediators between God and man?

                      Jesus forgives all sins except one; blaspheming the holy ghost.
                      Pray you have never commited that sin.
                      No, i don't remember doing such a sin, at least not when i was sober. But once in a while, when i go out with the guys it could happen, you know, to over drink; i might say all kind of funny things then, which i don't quite remember later. I just hope i didn't plasphemed the Holy Ghost during those moments of turpitude.

                      True faith is shown in your works, if you have no works, your faith is dead.

                      But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
                      James 2:20
                      Oh, but i can do works, no problem. Or, even better, i can pay someone else to do them for me, is this ok?

                      [QUOTE][Once you truly accept Jesus you can no longer sin:/QUOTE]
                      How

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                      • fiat lux
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                        #12
                        Re: hello

                        Once you truly accept Jesus you can no longer sin:
                        How come? I thought that all humans are sinners by their nature, since the Fall of Adam. I'm far less knowledgeable about the Holy Book than you sir, but i'm sure i read somewhere in It that the only man who didn't sinned is Jesus Christ, our Lord (or our Lord's Son, i'm a bit confused here)

                        Anyway, i hope you understand that i'm not here to question your great theological knowledge, i just want to clear up some things in my head and i need spiritual guidance. After all, i don't want to burn in the eternal hellfire and i'm willing to spend some time and money on it.

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                        • SalvationSeeker
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                          #13
                          Re: hello

                          Originally posted by fiat lux View Post
                          You mean I should take this verse literally? Isn't it some kind of metaphor? I mean I have a (biological) father, how should i call him?
                          The "metaphor" (if one could really call it that) is that you shouldn't honor any man a title of God.
                          Are cathylick priests your real father? No.
                          So why call them such? It is not because they aspire to be your daddy, but because they aspire to hold the title of God.

                          They simply want to look important, let me show you the context of said verse to explain it further.
                          Cathylick priests are very similar to the Pharisees really.

                          For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders;
                          But they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
                          But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
                          And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
                          And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
                          But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
                          And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
                          Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
                          Matthew 23:4-10

                          But what about priests or pastors? There are people who, even if they read the Bible, they don't quite understand it or worse, they get the message in the wrong way. Therefore there must be someone out there to explain it to them in a rightful way, and those persons are the pastors or the priests. Aren't they , then, some kind of mediators between God and man?
                          No, as they can only pass the Word on, and help you understand it.
                          No true Pastor adds anything unto the word, nor does he change it or remove anything.
                          So that doesn't make them mediators in any way.
                          They cannot order God to do anything, nor change anything of the Word as the pope claims he can.

                          Neither do we pray to any dead or living Pastors, nor saints, we pray to God/Jesus and no other.

                          No, i don't remember doing such a sin, at least not when i was sober. But once in a while, when i go out with the guys it could happen, you know, to over drink; i might say all kind of funny things then, which i don't quite remember later. I just hope i didn't plasphemed the Holy Ghost during those moments of turpitude.
                          If you did, then that is no excuse, I'm afraid.
                          It was your own fault to "over drink", and as such you are responsible for the consequences.

                          Oh, but i can do works, no problem. Or, even better, i can pay someone else to do them for me, is this ok?
                          Not if it means breaking God's law, "work" doesn't mean working at a factory!
                          It means working for God.
                          As such, you can never offload the whole burden on someone else.
                          If you do, you would be lazy and decietful in doing the Lord's work, and clearly not Saved.

                          Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.
                          Jeremiah 48:10

                          [Once you truly accept Jesus you can no longer sin:/QUOTE]
                          How
                          You simply can't.
                          A Saved person is incapable of sinning, as He abides in Jesus and Jesus in Him.
                          So sin gets as alien to you as..
                          Well, the thing that would seem the most alien to you!

                          And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
                          Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
                          And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
                          Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
                          1 John 3:3-6

                          And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
                          He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
                          1 John 2:3-4
                          Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 01-18-2007, 04:18 PM.
                          If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                          A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                          Proverbs 9:12-13

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                          • Bobby-Joe
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                            #14
                            Re: hello

                            Originally posted by fiat lux View Post
                            How come? I thought that all humans are sinners by their nature, since the Fall of Adam. I'm far less knowledgeable about the Holy Book than you sir, but i'm sure i read somewhere in It that the only man who didn't sinned is Jesus Christ, our Lord (or our Lord's Son, i'm a bit confused here)
                            Friend,

                            Like most heratics you are only half right; all mankind are sinners. But once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and turn your life over to Him then He guides your actions. Therefor, under Christ's guidance, a TRUE Christian(tm) can not sin.

                            The acid test for if someone is true with Christ is can they sin. I test myself by trying to worship a false idol every morning and I am proud to say I can not do it.

                            Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                            • fiat lux
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                              #15
                              Re: hello

                              [QUOTE][But once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and turn your life over to Him then He guides your actions./QUOTE]
                              But how is He going to guide my actions? I should expect to hear some voice inside my head saying "Hey, I'm Jesus, do this or don't do that"...something like that?

                              [QUOTE][The acid test for if someone is true with Christ is can they sin. I test myself by trying to worship a false idol every morning and I am proud to say I can not do it./QUOTE]
                              Wow..you sure are one of the most faithful true christians i ever met.
                              But can we worship George W.? Well, maybe worship isn't the best word here, but at least keep him at a very high esteem and pray for him every night and follow his example? After all, I think he's one of the greatest men that ever lived on this planet. In fact, one of the reasons that i want to became a born again christian is him. He's my role model...after Jesus, of course. He showed us all that, if one find Jesus, one can became the president of the greatest power on earth even if that person isn't very bright.

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