[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I must ask,

Where does the command to burn a witch come from?

The power of Christ and the sign of the cross is a christians defence against the dark...Self defence is not the issue here...so where do you get the justification to burn "witches"

What are you? Some sort of atheist?

Ex:22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Self-Defence? Why do we need that? The Lord looks over us!

We are not Islam, we are not told to persecute non-believers. The Salem witch trials was a perversion of christianity just like the inquisition was.
please clarify

Why are you telling me, a True Christian(tm) that "we" are not Islam (and for your information - you retard, the word is "Muslin")

What have the Salem witch trials got to do with it - they were all guilty as Hell! The only perversions were those of the witches. Those were the days! God's Law was heeded. It shall return.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Help!

I must ask,

Where does the command to burn a witch come from?

The power of Christ and the sign of the cross is a christians defence against the dark...Self defence is not the issue here...so where do you get the justification to burn "witches"

Burning isn't specified as the means of execution, but God says to kill them.

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

He also says not to tolerate them among our people.

Deuteronomy 18: 10-12

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Finally, He says that all such people will not go to Heaven (there's only one other place to go, and that's Hell):

Galatians 5:19-21

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. [quote]

We are not Islam, we are not told to persecute non-believers.

Correct, we're told to execute them, not to make fun of them.

We're also told to destroy them utterly from the face of the earth, if they abandon God and lust after false idols. (See Numbers 31 and the treatment of the Midianites. It's what modern folks call "genocide", but we call it "Godly justice".)

[Nobar King]

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It looks like you're going to have a lot of questions. It's going to take forever to answer them all.

If you're really interested in witches, which I hope you aren't, you can read a lot about them by just using the search feature:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/search.php?searchid=1082789

[Orthodox]

Re: Help!

I must ask,

Where does the command to burn a witch come from?

The power of Christ and the sign of the cross is a christians defence against the dark...Self defence is not the issue here...so where do you get the justification to burn "witches"

We are not Islam, we are not told to persecute non-believers. The Salem witch trials was a perversion of christianity just like the inquisition was.

please clarify

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Help!

You asked for where it was taken out of context and I must point this out.

The first Epistle of Peter was a letter written to the churches in Asia Minor who were under persecution. The parts you quoted were about Christians submitting to the local officials willingly, just as Jesus did with Pontius Pilate.

I'm not sure how what you quoted adds to your point about executing witches...Please clarify?

You must understand the context of the quotes you use or there is the danger of misunderstanding.

You said you learned of Christianity as a child. The question was, "Would you (Landover) suffer a witch to live?"

The answer is, that come a theocracy, "No, burn them all" will be the cry and lawfully so.

However, we must obey the word of our earthly leaders at the moment and thus we cannot carry out God's Command to burn a witch and also to obey earthly authority - we thus obey earthly authority.

And for your information, it does not matter in the least where God's Word was spoken - it has equal resonance.

[Orthodox]

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I suggested the opposite - i even suggested the quote was misrespresented.

please re-read and know that you missed the forrest from the trees

[Nobar King]

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Are you suggesting that we shouldn't follow the law?

[Orthodox]

Re: Help!

The Bible says:


Quote:
1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:



We do not want to break the secular law, which is why we and our True Christian friends in government like George W. Bush have been working so hard for so long to get the Bible instituted as our national law instead of the Constitution.

You asked for where it was taken out of context and I must point this out.

The first Epistle of Peter was a letter written to the churches in Asia Minor who were under persecution. The parts you quoted were about Christians submitting to the local officials willingly, just as Jesus did with Pontius Pilate.

I'm not sure how what you quoted adds to your point about executing witches...Please clarify?

You must understand the context of the quotes you use or there is the danger of misunderstanding.

[Don the Baptist]

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Since I was born ive been going to church but I never truely belived in god. I was baptized and I was born again.

Never took much to spelling either I am assuming? How the hell were you born again while NOT believing in God. Were you Methodist or some such tomfoolery? You had better straighten up and fly right you heathen.

[Ugly_Kid_Joe]

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Islam, the fastest growing religion? Haha!
How would that even be possible? They kill themselves all the time.

[JennyD]

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Show me a reputable source of demographic data supporting your assertion or simply admit that you're talking out your behind.

[Seawitch]

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TeenWitch, could you provide the statistics to back up your assertion? Because, you see, I'm not finding it here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBAS....asp?vlnk=8301

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Jenny
I gave you a fact...not a statistic. Islam is the fastest growing by wieght of numbers, Wicca is the fastest growing percent wise of itself.
Muslims are pouring into Britain to feed of a land they want to destroy as well...they also breed like Rabbits.....many aren't even supposed to be here.
Wicca has gone from hundreds to tens of thousands in a few decades....thats a broadly spoken fact....not a statistic
Remember what Churchill said...'Never trust statistics unless you fiddled the figures yourself'
Remember what Disraeli said.....'you get lies, you get damn lies...and you get statistics!'
By the way....I'm a Seawitch.......www.seawitchartist.com

[JennyD]

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This is why so many church congregations are tiny and Wicca is Britain's fastest growing religion per capita...but try telling this lot that!!

TeenWitch, could you provide the statistics to back up your assertion? Because, you see, I'm not finding it here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBAS....asp?vlnk=8301

I'd be more inclined to guess from the emoticon you chose to post that Islam is the fastest-growing cult in the UK, not Gerald Gardner's Revisionist Pansy Paganism.

You have used the quotes grosly out of context and a good portion of them are from the old testiment yet you bash Judism for following the old testiment..

Where has anyone bashed Judaism for following the Old Testament?

Orthodox Jews follow the entire Old Testament. That's a good start! All they need to do is add in the New Testament -- which does not say to disregard the Old -- and they'd be perfected.

However, they deny that Jesus is God. Therefore, they, like Wiccans, are all Hellbound for rejecting Him.

It makes us sad.

[SpoonyNoob]

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Please feel free to post the specific scriptures that we've gotten wrong. Don't just waltz in here making wild allegations, back it up with scripture!

I'll wait.

Well where in the bible does it say "your pronounciation offends jesus"

[JennyD]

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In the bible it says that jesus healed the weak and converted many people INCLUDING jewish people INCLUDING gays..

Really?

Yes, Jesus converted Jews to Christianity. They were then Saved(c) Christians.

Can you show me where He had any contact with Sodomites?

I think you're making up fibs about Jesus.