[Glendora Christianson]

Re: Hi.

That isn't a fair angle you took.


But you admit it, you could have the proof!

We are busy getting ready for the second most important day of the year (Our Lord Jesus' Resurrection) and Ms Vanhellseeker has to try and ruin it (again). Whatever you folks are arguing about can be answered (with 100 percent accuracy) by consulting the Good Book. End of argument!

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Hi.

That isn't a fair angle you took.


But you admit it, you could have the proof!

Nope, wouldn't have proof.

Since you bring up angles, the only way to prove your ridiculous heliocentric theory would be to travel far, far away from the solar system and then observe it from a distance to see what orbits which.

Just hopping in one of those low-orbit thingamabobs would not show anything about what orbits which.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi.

But you admit it, you could have the proof!

The proof we would have would be of Satan's lies. The standards of Christian Science are simple; if it disagrees with scripture that means Satan has tampered with the evidence.

[richardT]

Re: Hi.

and that if you had enough money you could go into space to see this for yourself, that all means nothing to you?

You couldn't tell where the center of the universe was by simple observation.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi.

You couldn't tell where the center of the universe was by simple observation.

I couldn't friend but Jesus could.

[richardT]

Re: Hi.

I couldn't friend but Jesus could.

Exacly.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi.

Exacly.

So you agree with us then friend? You or me will never know one way or the other if the Earth is the center of the universe. How ever Jesus does, as He says so in The Bible.

Looks like you are moving closer to Christ as we speak.

[richardT]

Re: Hi.

So you agree with us then friend? You or me will never know one way or the other if the Earth is the center of the universe. How ever Jesus does, as He says so in The Bible.

Looks like you are moving closer to Christ as we speak.

Yes I agree with you.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi.

Yes I agree with you.

Do you really? The tithing paypal button is at the bottom of the page. Show Jesus how much you love Him friend.

Baby Jesus needs a new pair of shoes after all.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Hi.

To the dumbass nice man who believes the sun circles the earth. Lookit, they have the proof of probes and ships that have gone out there, not to mention your idea is PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. If the moon were to move closer to the earth it would cause massive problems, small as it is.

In space, smaller bodies orbit a larger body, not the other way around.

HAVE YOU ANY IDEA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A BODY AS LARGE AS THE SUN WERE TO ORBIT THE EARTH???

Not only is it not possible as that is NOT the way gravity works, but the effects if, hypothetically, it were to happen, would be CATASTROHPIC!!!

If you believe that the sun orbits the earth, you need to hop back into your time machine and get yourself back into the first millenium CE.


P.S. Apologies if I sounds snippy, but this is like trying to argue that the sky is, in fact, blue.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hi.

HAVE YOU ANY IDEA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A BODY AS LARGE AS THE SUN WERE TO ORBIT THE EARTH???

The sun is not that big.

Witness

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

The sun is a "great light" Rachael. Like a really big light bulb so that's why it doesn't cause tidel effects on the earth.

[Appelfap.]

Re: Hi.

So you agree with us then friend? You or me will never know one way or the other if the Earth is the center of the universe. How ever Jesus does, as He says so in The Bible.

Looks like you are moving closer to Christ as we speak.

Then we know it too.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Hi.

P.S. Apologies if I sounds snippy, but this is like trying to argue that the sky is, in fact, blue.

Let me look . . . Yep, it is.

Why do you insist that the sky is not blue? Are you visiting Los Angeles or certain parts of Texas?

After all, anywhere else it's easy to observe that the sky is blue.

Meanwhile, no probe has yet left the geo-solar system to observe it from a distance. One is currently traveling among the planets, but that's it. Assuming it's any more real than the moon landing; given today's technology, I wouldn't be surprised if there were no space probes.

[Brother John]

Re: Hi.

In space, smaller bodies orbit a larger body, not the other way around.

To be precise, according to science they orbit a common point taking in account both weights. It just so happens that for the case of Earth vs. sun, Earth's input is negligible, so it's very near the sun's centre itself.
According to science.

[richardT]

Re: Hi.

To the dumbass nice man who believes the sun circles the earth. Lookit, they have the proof of probes and ships that have gone out there, not to mention your idea is PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. If the moon were to move closer to the earth it would cause massive problems, small as it is.

In space, smaller bodies orbit a larger body, not the other way around.

HAVE YOU ANY IDEA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A BODY AS LARGE AS THE SUN WERE TO ORBIT THE EARTH???

Not only is it not possible as that is NOT the way gravity works, but the effects if, hypothetically, it were to happen, would be CATASTROHPIC!!!

If you believe that the sun orbits the earth, you need to hop back into your time machine and get yourself back into the first millenium CE.


P.S. Apologies if I sounds snippy, but this is like trying to argue that the sky is, in fact, blue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I never disagreed with newtonian gravity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity

Lack of an absolute reference frame

The principle of relativity, which states that there is no stationary reference frame, dates back to Galileo, and was incorporated into Newtonian Physics. However, in the late 19th century, the existence of electromagnetic waves led some physicists to suggest that the universe was filled with a substance known as "aether", which would act as the medium through which the vibrations traveled. The aether was thought to constitute an absolute reference frame against which speeds could be measured. In other words, the aether was the only fixed or motionless thing in the universe. Aether supposedly had some wonderful properties: it was sufficiently elastic that it could support electromagnetic waves, and those waves could interact with matter, yet it offered no resistance to bodies passing through it. The results of various experiments, including the Michelson-Morley experiment, indicated that the Earth was always 'stationary' relative to the aether — something that was difficult to explain, since the Earth is in orbit around the Sun. Einstein's elegant solution was to discard the notion of an aether and an absolute state of rest. Special relativity is formulated so as to not assume that any particular frame of reference is special; rather, in relativity, a system appears to observe the same laws of physics independent of an observer's velocity with respect to it. In particular, the speed of light in a vacuum is always measured to be c, even when measured by multiple systems that are moving at different (but constant) velocities.