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  • Bobby-Joe
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    • Sep 2006
    • 18405

    #16
    Re: Hi everyone

    Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
    I grew up in a non-religious home. My parents used to be Christ followers, but drifted away when they were in college. Anyway, one day out of the blue I felt the need to start going to church. I accepted Jesus into my life, and prayed that my family find Christ. At the time I was skeptical, but my prayer was eventually answered (Much to my surprise). Anyway the church I go to follows the gospel to the word, and doesn't buy into all of this evangelical mainstream Christian church stuff. It's about God and nothing else
    First, you can't be a libertarian and a Christian, libertarians are atheists.

    Second you can't be a Christian and support the nanny state policies like UHC. UHC is an atheist idea because it thwarts the will of God that sinners must suffer for their sins while the righteous profit from the wicked distress.

    Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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    • Libertarian
      Unsaved trash, Mindless Godmocker
      • Aug 2009
      • 30

      #17
      Re: Hi everyone

      Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
      First, you can't be a libertarian and a Christian, libertarians are atheists.

      Second you can't be a Christian and support the nanny state policies like UHC. UHC is an atheist idea because it thwarts the will of God that sinners must suffer for their sins while the righteous profit from the wicked distress.
      First, you sound like you have no idea what a libertarian is; many of them are Christian (Ron Paul has libertarian ideologies).

      Second, all sinners will suffer in the end. UHC won't change that. UHC will also help Christians who can't afford healthcare.

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      • Brother Lazarus
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        • Jul 2008
        • 1062

        #18
        Re: Hi everyone

        Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
        First, you can't be a libertarian and a Christian, libertarians are atheists.
        Actually, to clarify my own beliefs, I am indeed a Libertarian when it comes to the right to live in freedom from Government tyranny. I am Libertarian when it comes to Governmental fiscal responsibility. I am Libertarian in the view that you need to discipline yourself to the extent that you do nothing to deliberately offend your neighbor. I am a Libertarian in the view that the USA must always be capable of fully defending itself. So you see, being a Libertarian is not inconsistent with being a True Christian.

        Unfortunately, some people do claim to be atheists and Libertarian, just like some people use false bibles and false doctrine and claim to be True Christians. Being atheist and Libertarian is something that isn't really possible since we all know atheists have no moral compass and are incapable of knowing right from wrong. A true Libertarian is always armed and is always cognizant of what is right and what is wrong.

        Yours in Christ
        Brother Lazarus
        In the Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. Genesis 1.1. This scripture is the first verse of the Bible for a reason. It lays the foundation for the absolute truth found in God's Holy WORD, the Bible.

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        • Whip of Japheth
          Forum Member
          Forum Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 161

          #19
          Re: Hi everyone

          Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
          What is the 1611 Bible? If I could, I would learn Greek and Hebrew and read the Bible in it's original form.
          I know how to read in greek and hebrew and it is not required to read His Word:

          Here you are

          Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
          First, you sound like you have no idea what a libertarian is; many of them are Christian
          I am miniarchist in politics questions and "austrian" in economics issues but i know very well your ideologists and his sins, take care about because i can be very cruel. I am an erudite here, trust me.

          Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
          (Ron Paul has libertarian ideologies).
          Can be. But a Christian male gynaecologist is an oxymoron.

          Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
          Second, all sinners will suffer in the end. UHC won't change that. UHC will also help Christians who can't afford healthcare.
          Oh, i see how libertarian you are.
          Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.
          Joshua 1:18

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          • Libertarian
            Unsaved trash, Mindless Godmocker
            • Aug 2009
            • 30

            #20
            Re: Hi everyone

            Originally posted by Brother Lazarus View Post
            Actually, to clarify my own beliefs, I am indeed a Libertarian when it comes to the right to live in freedom from Government tyranny. I am Libertarian when it comes to Governmental fiscal responsibility. I am Libertarian in the view that you need to discipline yourself to the extent that you do nothing to deliberately offend your neighbor. I am a Libertarian in the view that the USA must always be capable of fully defending itself. So you see, being a Libertarian is not inconsistent with being a True Christian.

            Unfortunately, some people do claim to be atheists and Libertarian, just like some people use false bibles and false doctrine and claim to be True Christians. Being atheist and Libertarian is something that isn't really possible since we all know atheists have no moral compass and are incapable of knowing right from wrong. A true Libertarian is always armed and is always cognizant of what is right and what is wrong.

            Yours in Christ
            Brother Lazarus
            Oh, I forgot to mention in my testimony that about 3 months ago I quit believing in god and became an Atheist. When I was a Christian I assumed that if I was an Atheist I would have no moral compass.

            Thankfully, I was wrong. For an atheist, morals are based on empathy and sympathy for your fellow man, as well as what is logical/rational in a given situation. Without empathy/sympathy, we would be sociopaths. With those things, my morals are no different than they were when I was a christian. If fact, I might say that I have a more sympathetic view of people in unfortunate situations now that I am not blinded by ignorance.

            Unilke many Christians, I don't judge/condemn people who have views that differ from my own. I respectfully disagree, and then share my own views.

            I still hold the Bible in a high regard, because the teachings of Jesus Christ still hold many truths. In fact, if you do a little research, many of the teachings of Christ are similar to Buddhism. However, I am no longer constrained by the delusional thinking that many Christians have. I don't disbelieve established scientific theory because I feel threatened by it.





            Unfortunately most of you will skim over this and look the other way; you will continue to judge atheists, liberals, minorities, artists, libertarians, moderates, OTHER CHRISTIANS, etc. You will ignore that that, in itself is not Christlike. You will Cherry-pick scripture, ignoring scripture that doesn't run in line with your misguided world view. You will continue to be intolerant as demonstrated be your replies to my posts (Which like it or not are fairly moderate, and not liberal like you are led to believe).

            I hope that this post is actually read. Maybe you will stop and think for a little bit.

            Actually I hope that someone is will to debate me instead of look the other way.

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            • Nobar King
              Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
              Christ's Guardian
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2007
              • 23748

              #21
              Re: Hi everyone

              you forgot that you were an atheist?
              May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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              • JennyD
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                Forum Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 9567

                #22
                Re: Hi everyone

                [QUOTE=Libertarian;374790]Unfortunately most of you will skim over this and look the other way; you will continue to judge atheists, [/quyote]
                Let me guess, we'll act as though atheists have no moral compass, and do things like join Christian church forums and pretend to be Christians.

                Oh, wait . . . Kind of like you. That's called deceiving people. It's an immoral act.
                You will ignore that that, in itself is not Christlike.
                Please show me where Jesus commands us not to judge others. Chapter and verse, Great Bible Scholar.
                You will Cherry-pick scripture, ignoring scripture that doesn't run in line with your misguided world view. You will continue to be intolerant as demonstrated be your replies to my posts (Which like it or not are fairly moderate, and not liberal like you are led to believe).
                We follow the entire Bible, not just the bits we happen to like.

                Please show me where anyone here has misrepresented Scripture.

                And socialized medicine is about as liberal as they come.

                I hope that this post is actually read. Maybe you will stop and think for a little bit.

                Actually I hope that someone is will to debate me instead of look the other way.
                Why? You're just going to lie to us about something else.

                Here's a hint that will help you in life, little boy: If you want to be respected, DO RESPECTABLE THINGS.

                Deceiving people is NOT respectable.
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                • Bobby-Joe
                  Landover Security Superviser
                  Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                  NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 18405

                  #23
                  Re: Hi everyone

                  Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                  Oh, I forgot to mention in my testimony that about 3 months ago I quit believing in god and became an Atheist. When I was a Christian I assumed that if I was an Atheist I would have no moral compass.
                  Oh tell me what brought this about? When you decided to grow a beard and cruise the net, look at porn and mock other people's beliefs?

                  Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                  • Libertarian
                    Unsaved trash, Mindless Godmocker
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 30

                    #24
                    Re: Hi everyone

                    [QUOTE=JennyD;374799]
                    Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                    Unfortunately most of you will skim over this and look the other way; you will continue to judge atheists, [/quyote]
                    Let me guess, we'll act as though atheists have no moral compass, and do things like join Christian church forums and pretend to be Christians.

                    Oh, wait . . . Kind of like you. That's called deceiving people. It's an immoral act.

                    Please show me where Jesus commands us not to judge others. Chapter and verse, Great Bible Scholar.

                    We follow the entire Bible, not just the bits we happen to like.

                    Please show me where anyone here has misrepresented Scripture.

                    And socialized medicine is about as liberal as they come.


                    Why? You're just going to lie to us about something else.

                    Here's a hint that will help you in life, little boy: If you want to be respected, DO RESPECTABLE THINGS.

                    Deceiving people is NOT respectable.
                    Judge not lest ye be judged.
                    Last edited by Mrs. Mary Whitford; 08-03-2009, 08:33 PM. Reason: Fixed typo

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                    • JennyD
                      Honorary True Christian™
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                      Forum Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 9567

                      #25
                      Re: Hi everyone

                      Originally posted by Libertarian
                      Judge not lest ye be judged.
                      Wrong. Read the full verse. Judge not lest ye also be judged; for by what measure ye mete, so shall it be meted unto you.

                      This is a warning against hypocritical judgment, not a command not to judge. In fact, we are commanded to judge with righteous judgment.

                      But, being a liberal twit, you'd not know anything about what the Bible actually says.
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                      • Libertarian
                        Unsaved trash, Mindless Godmocker
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 30

                        #26
                        Re: Hi everyone

                        I like this site already.

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                        • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #27
                          Re: Hi everyone

                          Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                          I like this site already.
                          So you're finally coming 'round to Jesus?
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                          • Brother Lazarus
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #28
                            Re: Hi everyone

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Oh, I forgot to mention in my testimony that about 3 months ago I quit believing in god and became an Atheist. When I was a Christian I assumed that if I was an Atheist I would have no moral compass.
                            So you lied to us. So much for your "moral compass".

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Thankfully, I was wrong. For an atheist, morals are based on empathy and sympathy for your fellow man, as well as what is logical/rational in a given situation.
                            You have shown no empathy, sympathy, logic or reason since you have been posting here. So yeah, by our definition you have no moral compass. Besides, you lied to us, remember?

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Without empathy/sympathy, we would be sociopaths.
                            No, without God we would be sociopaths. Did I forget to mention that atheists are sociopaths? They certainly are liars, as you have demonstrated so well.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            With those things, my morals are no different than they were when I was a christian.
                            Then you obviously never were a Christian. So you lied to yourself AND to us? Hmmm..is that akin to being a sociopath or is it a psychopath? I can't remember.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            If fact, I might say that I have a more sympathetic view of people in unfortunate situations now that I am not blinded by ignorance.
                            Oh OK, that's why you are soooo sympathetic to all those people that the government will make jobless, and quite possibly homeless when the Insurance companies are shut down. This make you a hypocrite in addition to being a sociopath and a psychopath.

                            Yup, you sure are an atheist!


                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Unilke many Christians, I don't judge/condemn people who have views that differ from my own. I respectfully disagree, and then share my own views.
                            Christians do not judge or condemn anyone. We do point out what it takes to be Saved. Sometimes it sounds harsh, but we didn't make the rules. God did. We share His Word in attempt to help you become Saved so that you do not go to Hell.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            I still hold the Bible in a high regard, because the teachings of Jesus Christ still hold many truths.
                            No you don't hold the Bible in "high regard". You spit on it. The Bible is the Word of God. Every single Blessed Word of it! It is the only absolute truth there is!

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            In fact, if you do a little research, many of the teachings of Christ are similar to Buddhism.
                            So now you are also a blasphemer.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            However, I am no longer constrained by the delusional thinking that many Christians have.
                            You've abandoned God. That's pretty delusional.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            I don't disbelieve established scientific theory because I feel threatened by it.
                            Your choice. The Works of God or the works of man. One way leads to Heaven, the other to Hell.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Unfortunately most of you will skim over this and look the other way; you will continue to judge atheists, liberals, minorities, artists, libertarians, moderates, OTHER CHRISTIANS, etc. You will ignore that that, in itself is not Christlike. You will Cherry-pick scripture, ignoring scripture that doesn't run in line with your misguided world view. You will continue to be intolerant as demonstrated be your replies to my posts (Which like it or not are fairly moderate, and not liberal like you are led to believe).
                            Does it appear your post has been ignored? It has been examined quite closely.

                            You accuse us of many things. However, EVERYTHING we have posted can be backed up in Scripture.

                            As for your posts, they show you are a Godless Marxist.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            I hope that this post is actually read. Maybe you will stop and think for a little bit.
                            Oh, I read it. I'll have to pray very hard for you after I finish this reply.

                            Originally posted by Libertarian View Post
                            Actually I hope that someone is will to debate me instead of look the other way.
                            Why more debate? This isn't a debate forum. Besides, you're too easy a target. I would not want to see you embarrassed any further.

                            Yours in Christ
                            Brother Lazarus
                            In the Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. Genesis 1.1. This scripture is the first verse of the Bible for a reason. It lays the foundation for the absolute truth found in God's Holy WORD, the Bible.

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                            • Libertarian
                              Unsaved trash, Mindless Godmocker
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 30

                              #29
                              Re: Hi everyone

                              Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
                              So you're finally coming 'round to Jesus?
                              Well Jesus is casual friend of mine. But I don't worship friends so I don't worship Jesus.

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                              • Nilon
                                Confirmed Enemy of God
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 32

                                #30
                                Re: Hi everyone

                                Originally posted by Brother Lazarus View Post
                                So you lied to us. So much for your "moral compass".



                                No, without God we would be sociopaths. Did I forget to mention that atheists are sociopaths? They certainly are liars, as you have demonstrated so well.



                                Then you obviously never were a Christian. So you lied to yourself AND to us? Hmmm..is that akin to being a sociopath or is it a psychopath? I can't remember.
                                I don't believe a little like that means someone lacks a moral compass, if so that means that any Christian that lies also lacks one, and no one goes without lieng.

                                Atheism has nothing to do with being a sociopath, same with psychopath.

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