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  • mark lewis
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    • Jan 2010
    • 37

    #16
    Re: okay... so

    Originally posted by confucius View Post
    love thy enemies
    Fag-talk

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    • GOD=life
      WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
      True Christian™
      • Jan 2010
      • 3263

      #17
      Re: okay... so

      Originally posted by confucius View Post
      Do you really need a bible to know that its not okay to have sex with your dog?
      No, but I also don't need the Bible to tell me it's not okay to sodomize another man

      Obviously, many people do need that clarification. Exactly what is it about God's word that you hate so much? The NT makes extensive references to the OT. It is not said anywhere that we can just flush the OT down the toilet. If the OT were irrelevant, it wouldn't be in the Bible, now would it?


      Originally posted by confucius View Post
      While some christians do pick and chose to their liking, many christians these days would prefer to hold onto the old testament teachings denying the voice of Jesus telling them to love from the new....
      You seem to contradict yourself here. Either you accept the Bible as a whole or you don't. Did you actually READ the Bible or did you just skim it?

      We do not see false Christians or atheists as enemies, but as valuable souls that need to be saved. It would be SO easy to just say "whatever, let them go to Hell", but it's out of compassion that we try to show them the Light.

      It is like when a child is beaten by his father. Does the father hate the child? Of course not! When a father says "this hurts me more than it hurts you", the father speaks the truth.

      The Bible is NOT a book you can just tear in two. Read it whole to understand it whole.
      I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

      Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
      Matthew 7:22
      Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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      • confucius
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Jan 2010
        • 13

        #18
        Re: okay... so

        Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
        No, but I also don't need the Bible to tell me it's not okay to sodomize another man

        Obviously, many people do need that clarification. Exactly what is it about God's word that you hate so much? The NT makes extensive references to the OT. It is not said anywhere that we can just flush the OT down the toilet. If the OT were irrelevant, it wouldn't be in the Bible, now would it?



        You seem to contradict yourself here. Either you accept the Bible as a whole or you don't. Did you actually READ the Bible or did you just skim it?

        We do not see false Christians or atheists as enemies, but as valuable souls that need to be saved. It would be SO easy to just say "whatever, let them go to Hell", but it's out of compassion that we try to show them the Light.

        It is like when a child is beaten by his father. Does the father hate the child? Of course not! When a father says "this hurts me more than it hurts you", the father speaks the truth.

        The Bible is NOT a book you can just tear in two. Read it whole to understand it whole.

        Do you accept that Jesus died on the cross for your sins?

        Lets start there.

        Do you believe that Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant?


        just out of the blue... considering people seem to be fond of holding on to the Jewish teachings, do you celebrate christmas and disregard Jeremiah ?

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        • confucius
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          • Jan 2010
          • 13

          #19
          Re: okay... so

          Ok, So I have an infraction because I asked questions, but people are allowed to ask me questions,

          actually I have an infraction for going yippity yippity yap or something like that...

          LOL

          I can see I am prob. not going to be allowed to last long here if I am getting an infraction for being yippity!

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          • GOD=life
            WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
            True Christian™
            • Jan 2010
            • 3263

            #20
            Re: okay... so

            We hold onto the Bible.

            When you pray and God answers you, do you say "sorry God, I only want to hear half of what you say"?

            It would be an insult.

            Just like when you disregard parts of the Bible: read ALL of God's words, for reading some equals reading none.

            When you drive a car, is it OK if it has no steering wheel? Or one of the tires is missing? If someone insists on driving with a steering wheel, do you call that person obsessed with a steering wheel? No, of course not. Same with the Bible.
            I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

            Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
            Matthew 7:22
            Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
            Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

            Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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            • confucius
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Jan 2010
              • 13

              #21
              Re: okay... so

              Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
              We hold onto the Bible.

              When you pray and God answers you, do you say "sorry God, I only want to hear half of what you say"?

              It would be an insult.

              Just like when you disregard parts of the Bible: read ALL of God's words, for reading some equals reading none.

              When you drive a car, is it OK if it has no steering wheel? Or one of the tires is missing? If someone insists on driving with a steering wheel, do you call that person obsessed with a steering wheel? No, of course not. Same with the Bible.

              When I read gods bible in its entirety it does not tell me to honor christmas, or to bow to statues, it does not tell me to stress over bills and it does not tell me to believe in the egyptian teachings of the trinity.

              When I read the bible in it's entirety, it does not tell me to bow down to man or to put up with senseless bs. It does not tell me to make a mockery of god and it does not tell me to treat others like crap.

              When I read the bible in it's entirety, it does not tell me to honor sunday as the sabbath, but saturday, which would mean everybody that was posting on this site (saturday) is a sinner.

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              • confucius
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                • Jan 2010
                • 13

                #22
                Re: okay... so

                Originally posted by marklewis View Post
                Fag-talk
                it would seem when I posted this before It was deleted for some reason?

                so I will post again...

                Those are Jesus's words, so I guess you are calling Jesus a Fag?

                Nice... but I don't think he is going to like that much...

                Matthew 5, verse 44... love thy enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to the that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you...

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                • Rev. Jim Osborne
                  True Christian™ Televangelist
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                  True Christian™
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 8622

                  #23
                  Re: okay... so

                  Originally posted by confucius View Post
                  When I read gods bible in its entirety it does not tell me to honor christmas,
                  No it doesn't. Most of "Christmas" is pagan-inspired anyways. Christmas trees, Santa Claus, presents, etc. are Satanic and a trick to lead people away from Christ.

                  or to bow to statues,
                  Actually we are in agreement here. The Bible warns about us doing idolatry. But we at Landover Baptist do not bow to statues! The Roman Catholics do that but they are not Christians, just a Jesus-hating cult. Their god is Mary.

                  it does not tell me to stress over bills and it does not tell me to believe in the egyptian teachings of the trinity.
                  Uh, the Egyptians believed that God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are One? Really? Egyptians were idol-worshippers, now they're moon-worshippers.

                  When I read the bible in it's entirety, it does not tell me to bow down to man or to put up with senseless bs. It does not tell me to make a mockery of god and it does not tell me to treat others like crap.
                  Actually it tells us we must respect authority. See Romans 13.

                  It also warns us about those that mock God.

                  Gal. 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

                  When I read the bible in it's entirety, it does not tell me to honor sunday as the sabbath, but saturday, which would mean everybody that was posting on this site (saturday) is a sinner.
                  Please post Scripture where it says that Saturday is the Sabbath. That is what you are claiming.

                  Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                  • GOD=life
                    WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                    True Christian™
                    • Jan 2010
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                    #24
                    Re: okay... so

                    Originally posted by confucius View Post
                    Those are Jesus's words, so I guess you are calling Jesus a Fag?
                    Seems like a good reason to use that report button
                    I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                    Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                    Matthew 7:22
                    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                    Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                    Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                    • Rev. Jim Osborne
                      True Christian™ Televangelist
                      Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                      On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 8622

                      #25
                      Re: okay... so

                      Originally posted by confucius View Post
                      it would seem when I posted this before It was deleted for some reason?

                      so I will post again...

                      Those are Jesus's words, so I guess you are calling Jesus a Fag?

                      Nice... but I don't think he is going to like that much...

                      Matthew 5, verse 44... love thy enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to the that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you...
                      Don't listen to him. He is unsaved trash. Besides, I gave him an infraction for saying that.

                      Now, as a True Christian™ I truly love my enemies, I really do. But love isn't the same as coddling them or "tolerating" them. Look at it this way: We show our love to our enemies by warning them of their wicked ways that will damn them to Hell. Homosexuals will burn in Hell unless they repent, and since I love my homosexual enemies, I do everything I can to preach the Gospel to them to save them.

                      I even go so far as to show up at homosexual weddings and shout at them with a bullhorn and pass our Gospel tracts. I want them to renounce their sins and embrace Jesus. I want them to join me in Heaven.

                      We True Christians™ love our enemies. There is not a single verse in the Bible we disobey.

                      Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                      • GOD=life
                        WARNING: Do not attempt to debate. You will lose horribly.
                        True Christian™
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 3263

                        #26
                        Re: okay... so

                        This is just too easy...

                        Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

                        You say that you read the Bible entirely and yet you somehow missed the very beginning?? See what I mean with Bible-skimmers? Even something like this gets glanced over. Oh wait, it's in the OLD Testament, right?

                        Tell me, can you drive a car without a steering wheel and half its tires missing? Am I being a "whiner" for saying you need a steering wheel and proper tires to drive a car safely? I invite you to drive your soul safely...
                        I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                        Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                        Matthew 7:22
                        Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                        Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                        Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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                        • confucius
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 13

                          #27
                          Re: okay... so

                          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                          No it doesn't. Most of "Christmas" is pagan-inspired anyways. Christmas trees, Santa Claus, presents, etc. are Satanic and a trick to lead people away from Christ.



                          Actually we are in agreement here. The Bible warns about us doing idolatry. But we at Landover Baptist do not bow to statues! The Roman Catholics do that but they are not Christians, just a Jesus-hating cult. Their god is Mary.



                          Uh, the Egyptians believed that God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are One? Really? Egyptians were idol-worshippers, now they're moon-worshippers.



                          Actually it tells us we must respect authority. See Romans 13.

                          It also warns us about those that mock God.

                          Gal. 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.



                          Please post Scripture where it says that Saturday is the Sabbath. That is what you are claiming.

                          I am not claiming sunday is the sabbath, I am saying that nowhere in the bible does it state that sunday is the sabbath, this would be because the day was changed from the catholic church from saturday to sunday.

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                          • Rev. Jim Osborne
                            True Christian™ Televangelist
                            Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                            On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                            True Christian™
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 8622

                            #28
                            Re: okay... so

                            Originally posted by GOD=life View Post
                            This is just too easy...

                            Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

                            You say that you read the Bible entirely and yet you somehow missed the very beginning?? See what I mean with Bible-skimmers? Even something like this gets glanced over. Oh wait, it's in the OLD Testament, right?

                            Tell me, can you drive a car without a steering wheel and half its tires missing? Am I being a "whiner" for saying you need a steering wheel and proper tires to drive a car safely? I invite you to drive your soul safely...
                            Our church was gracious enough to grant you Forum Member status, but here you are sassing back at a True Christian(tm) pastor like some unsaved trash that came here off of 4chan.

                            Yes the Bible mentions "seventh day" but it doesn't say "Saturday". But Saturday is the seventh day, right? Wrong. Sunday is. The first day of the week is actually Monday. Our calendars may display it wrong, but calendars do not usurp the Word of God.

                            Saturday and Sunday are considered the "Weekend". Week-END. How can Saturday be the last day of the week, then if Sunday, also a weekend day follows it?

                            Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                            • confucius
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 13

                              #29
                              Re: okay... so

                              Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                              Our church was gracious enough to grant you Forum Member status, but here you are sassing back at a True Christian™ pastor like some unsaved trash that came here off of 4chan.

                              Yes the Bible mentions "seventh day" but it doesn't say "Saturday". But Saturday is the seventh day, right? Wrong. Sunday is. The first day of the week is actually Monday. Our calendars may display it wrong, but calendars do not usurp the Word of God.

                              Saturday and Sunday are considered the "Weekend". Week-END. How can Saturday be the last day of the week, then if Sunday, also a weekend day follows it?

                              Don't know what 4chan is so you lost me there..

                              Also where can I read in the scripture about the calendar week starting on monday, I would like to be educated so that I don't make this mistake again and look like a fool.

                              Thanks! oh and sorry for being so disrespectful!

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                              • Rev. Jim Osborne
                                True Christian™ Televangelist
                                Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                                On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                                True Christian™
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 8622

                                #30
                                Re: okay... so

                                I wasn't talking to you in that post, I was talking to GOD=Life. But still, that answer does pertain to what you are claiming about the Sabbath. Sunday is the Sabbath and we are required to follow it.

                                Now Scripture doesn't say anything about when the calendar week starts. But, from my explanation above, you can see that Sunday is truly the seventh day and therefore the Sabbath.

                                Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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