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[John316forever]

Good evening fellow lovers of Jesus, I'd like to introduce myself:

My real name is John, and my favorite bible verse is, as one can see by my name, John 3:16 as it encompasses our lord Jesus Christ.

My favorite hunting rifle is the Marlin M444 5-shot Rifle.

[Meek and Humble]

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John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." That says God loves everyone, right? Wrong. Every so-called Christian in the world will cite John 3:16 as proof that God loves everyone. They don't have a clue what the verse means, and, under the guidance of the lying false prophets who make up the "Christian" landscape, twist it to mean what they want it to mean. We call that "wresting the scripture unto your own destruction." 2 Peter 3:16.


It seems that if you're going to base an entire lying theology on one part of a verse, you would at least know what the verse means. But so-called Christians today are far too simple-minded and lazy to look into the matter. So we'll do it for you: the word translated "world" in John 3:16 is the Greek word "kosmos." The word never means "every individual of mankind who ever lived." In fact, the word has at least seven different meanings in the scripture, depending on the context in which it's used. It can mean Gentiles (as opposed to Jews); it can mean the world of believers; it can mean the world of unbelievers; it can mean the physical creation; etc. If you would actually read what the verse says, and read the context around the verse, you would find that the answer is right before your lying eyes - you just don't want to see it, because it conflicts with how your evil, dark hearts think God ought to be! The context is "the world of believers" (whether they are Jews or Gentiles). Those are the people God loves. Those are the people for whom Jesus died. Jesus didn't come to condemn those people - He came to save them. But everyone else is already condemned, because they don't believe.



You'll say "but doesn't 'whosoever believes' mean that everybody has the chance to believe?" Nope. Turn a few pages to John 10 (you may be surprised to find that there is actually more to the Bible than John 3:16, but believe me, there is). You will find in John 10:11 that Jesus says "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." Later on in verse 26, Jesus says to some unbelievers: "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you." Uh oh - you John 3:16 heretics have a few problems on your hands. Jesus says He came to die for the sheep, and then proceeds to say that only His sheep can believe. In other words, only the people for whom Jesus died will believe. Note that the reason that unbelievers don't believe is BECAUSE they are not His sheep. This passage explains who the world is in John 3:16, and it's clearly not everyone. Furthermore, the only people who can believe are the ones whom God has ordained to eternal life. "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." Acts 13:48. So, if you have been ordained to eternal life, that means that you will believe, you are one of God's sheep, God loves you, and He sent His Son to die for you so you wouldn't be condemned. If you have not been ordained to eternal life, that means you are not one of His sheep, you NEVER will believe and are already condemned.


What I've told you here is the only interpretation that makes sense, because that is the only interpretation that is consistent with the rest of the Scripture. For example, God hated Esau! Romans 9:13. And He didn't just hate him - He hated him before he was even born and had done neither good nor evil! Romans 9:11. If He hates a person, He doesn't love everyone. For another example, there are billions of people in hell. If He loves those people, what a peculiar way of showing it!


Our message to this evil world is that God hates you, and you better prepare for the return of Christ in power and glory. Jesus came the first time to save; and Jesus will come the second time in vengeance, because you do not obey the Gospel. It will be soon, and you will experience the wrath of the Lamb, face to face. (Deut. 7:10, Rev. 6:16).



Also see "God Loves Everyone" - The Greatest Lie Ever Told, which includes 701 passages from the Bible proving God's hatred and wrath for most of mankind.

[Levi Jones]

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Hello and welcome.

Indeed John 3:16 does encompass a shaky base for Christianity. There are so many other things we have to do before Salvation, but it is a good one to start neophytes out with.

Friend, you'll find we are a tight knit group deeply steeped in the Word of God.

What is your second favorite Bible verse? What Church do you attend? Are you a married man?

[John316forever]

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I attend the First Baptist Church in Houston, Texas. I am married with 2 soldiers of Jesus both boys. My wife makes an incredibly apple pie, and my second favorite bible verse is:

Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."

[Levi Jones]

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I attend the First Baptist Church in Houston, Texas. I am married with 2 soldiers of Jesus both boys. My wife makes an incredibly apple pie, and my second favorite bible verse is:

Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."

Son, do you think we just fell off the Short Bus1?

[John316forever]

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Yes indeed

[John316forever]

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I guess the jig is up, I suppose next time I should just change my IP

[Bobby-Joe]

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I guess the jig is up, I suppose next time I should just change my IP

We've had a forum since the late '90s friend. Do you really think you can fool Jesus or us with just an IP change?

[John316forever]

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We've had a forum since the late '90s friend. Do you really think you can fool Jesus or us with just an IP change?

ABSOLUTELY!