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  • freakyvoiz
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    • Apr 2010
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    #1

    Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

    So, this is what baptism has come to? I was raised baptist with the belief that God wants you to be happy, not try your hardest to stick to the bible. If you read correctly, the King James bible was re-written by King James. It is not the original, When you translate the original document, then come talk to me.

    In other news I am a musician who enjoys writing and art.

    Nice to meet you all, I hope I have not spit too much blasphemy in this first post, I am just speaking from my heart with what I was taught.
  • eliot mayfield
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    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 9324

    #2
    Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

    Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
    So, this is what baptism has come to? I was raised baptist with the belief that God wants you to be happy, not try your hardest to stick to the bible. If you read correctly, the King James bible was re-written by King James. It is not the original, When you translate the original document, then come talk to me.

    In other news I am a musician who enjoys writing and art.

    Nice to meet you all, I hope I have not spit too much blasphemy in this first post, I am just speaking from my heart with what I was taught.
    And you have translated the original documents and so then it would be a level discussion?
    We have Pastors around here! What are your qualifications?
    Matthew:
    5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
    10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
    10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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    • Nathan B. Forrest
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      True Christian™
      • Mar 2010
      • 394

      #3
      Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

      Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
      So, this is what baptism has come to? I was raised baptist with the belief that God wants you to be happy, not try your hardest to stick to the bible. If you read correctly, the King James bible was re-written by King James. It is not the original, When you translate the original document, then come talk to me.

      In other news I am a musician who enjoys writing and art.

      Nice to meet you all, I hope I have not spit too much blasphemy in this first post, I am just speaking from my heart with what I was taught.
      Ummm...the KJV1611 is THE definitive and the ONLY version of our HOLY Bible.....unless you're privy to information we are not?

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      • freakyvoiz
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        • Apr 2010
        • 15

        #4
        Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

        I have no qualifications. I am not a pastor, I am not a translator, I am not a religious scholar. All I am is a concerned child of God. Why did you switch it around though? Why not explain your reasoning as to why YOU are right and I am wrong?

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        • eliot mayfield
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          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 9324

          #5
          Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

          Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
          I have no qualifications. I am not a pastor, I am not a translator, I am not a religious scholar. All I am is a concerned child of God. Why did you switch it around though? Why not explain your reasoning as to why YOU are right and I am wrong?
          Because we have the Bible which you have admitted to knowing nothing about?
          Matthew:
          5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
          5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
          10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
          10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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          • Nathan B. Forrest
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            True Christian™
            • Mar 2010
            • 394

            #6
            Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

            Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
            I have no qualifications. I am not a pastor, I am not a translator, I am not a religious scholar. All I am is a concerned child of God. Why did you switch it around though? Why not explain your reasoning as to why YOU are right and I am wrong?
            Because WE are Right. Have you even read anything around here? I don't think you have. I think you just came in here and threw down a challenge without doing any research about us and without understanding anything we stand for. Way to go, way to assume.

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            • freakyvoiz
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              • Apr 2010
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              #7
              Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

              Originally posted by eliot mayfield View Post
              Because we have the Bible which you have admitted to knowing nothing about?

              I never said I didn't know anything about the bible, that was an assumption made by you. You still haven't answered my question though. How do you know you have the correct translation?

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78553

                #8
                Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                I have no qualifications. I am not a pastor, I am not a translator, I am not a religious scholar. All I am is a concerned child of God. Why did you switch it around though? Why not explain your reasoning as to why YOU are right and I am wrong?
                First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

                Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

                Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


                Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

                And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

                I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • Levi Jones
                  Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                  Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                  Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                   
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 13930

                  #9
                  Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                  Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                  I never said I didn't know anything about the bible, that was an assumption made by you. You still haven't answered my question though. How do you know you have the correct translation?
                  You don't believe God would allow His Word to be corrupted by man, do you?
                  Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                  • freakyvoiz
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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                    Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                    You don't believe God would allow His Word to be corrupted by man, do you?
                    I believe god gave man free will, otherwise there would not be different versions of the same word.

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    First of all, this is NOT a debate forum.
                    I am not asking for a debate, simply an explanation.

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                    • Levi Jones
                      Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                      Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                      Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                       
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 13930

                      #11
                      Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                      Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                      I believe god gave man free will, otherwise there would not be different versions of the same word.
                      The different versions vary little. They are simply cosmetic.
                      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78553

                        #12
                        Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                        Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                        I am not asking for a debate, simply an explanation.
                        We aren't here to spoon feed you. You claim to be a Christian, so what does the Holy Bible say on the matter?

                        Read THIS thread, then use the "search" feature to seek answers to your questions.

                        And by the way, this is called the "INTRODUCTION" section for a reason. This is where you tell us about yourself, your church and how you came to find God. This is NOT where you start spewing hatefulness and throwing hissyfits.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Robert Jones
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                          True Christian™
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 333

                          #13
                          Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                          Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                          I believe god gave man free will, otherwise there would not be different versions of the same word.



                          I am not asking for a debate, simply an explanation.
                          Here's the short version of the post you were asked to read.

                          1. God promised to preserve His words (Psa. 12:6-7; Mat. 24:35). There has to be a preserved copy of God's pure words somewhere. If it isn't the KJV, then what is it?

                          2. It has no copyright. The text of the KJV may be reproduced by anyone for there is no copyright forbidding it's duplication. This is not true with the modern perversions.

                          3. The KJV produces good fruit (Mat. 7:17-20). No modern translation can compare to the KJV when it comes to producing good fruit. For nearly four hundred years, God has used the preaching and teaching of the KJV to bring hundreds of millions to Christ. Laodicean Christians might favor the new versions, but the Holy Spirit doesn't.

                          4. The KJV was translated during the Philadelphia church period (Rev. 3:7-13). The modern versions begin to appear rather late on the scene as the lukewarm Laodicean period gets underway (Rev. 3:14-22), but the KJV was produced way back in 1611, just in time for the many great revivals (1700-1900). The Philadelphia church was the only church that did not receive a rebuke from the Lord Jesus Christ, and it was the only church that "kept" God's word (Rev. 3:8).

                          5. The KJV translators were honest in their work. When the translators had to add certain words, largely due to idiom changes, they placed the added words in italics so we'd know the difference. This is not the case with many new translations.

                          6. All new translations compare themselves to the KJV. Isn't it strange that the new versions never compare themselves to one another? For some strange reason they all line up against one Book--the A.V. 1611. I wonder why? Try Matthew 12:26.

                          7. The KJV translators believed they were handling the very words of God (I Ths. 2:13). Just read the King James Dedicatory and compare it to the prefaces in the modern versions. Immediately, you will see a world of difference in the approach and attitude of the translators. Which group would YOU pick for translating a book?

                          8. The KJV is supported by far more evidence. Of over 5,300 pieces of manuscript evidence, ninety-five percent supports the King James Bible! The changes in the new versions are based on the remaining five percent of manuscripts, most of which are from Alexandria, Egypt. (There are only two lines of Bibles: the Devil's line from Alexandria, and the Lord's line from Antioch. We'll deal with this later.)

                          9. No one has ever proven that the KJV is not God's word. The 1611 should be considered innocent until proven guilty with a significant amount of genuine manuscript evidence.

                          10. The KJV exalts the Lord Jesus Christ. The true scriptures should testify of Jesus Christ (John 5:39). There is no book on this planet which exalts Christ higher than the King James Bible. In numerous places the new perversions attack the Deity of Christ, the Blood Atonement, the Resurrection, salvation by grace through faith, and the Second Coming. The true scriptures will TESTIFY of Jesus Christ, not ATTACK Him!
                          Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



                          Run to the KJV1611!

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                          • freakyvoiz
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                            My name is Aaron, I was raised Baptist in Kansas. My pastor has always been Pastor Jim Blocher of the First Baptist Church of Independence Kansas. I have gone through my many phases of questioning God, of trying to deny his existence but have come to accept God into my life and realized all the beautiful things he has put on this earth for me.

                            I do not understand how I am being hateful though? I asked a simple question wanting a logical answer. I created another thread to ask what the church felt about newer Christian music in the "mainstream" and how it is reaching kids nowadays, but my thread was deleted before I saw even a single post. Why not give me a slight chance to prove to you I am a good Christian and that I have a heart filled with love and forgiveness?

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                            • Pastor Ezekiel
                              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                               
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 78553

                              #15
                              Re: Dont go to bed yet, let's go get a 64.

                              Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                              My name is Aaron, I was raised Baptist in Kansas. My pastor has always been Pastor Jim Blocher of the First Baptist Church of Independence Kansas. I have gone through my many phases of questioning God, of trying to deny his existence but have come to accept God into my life and realized all the beautiful things he has put on this earth for me.
                              I'm going to give your Pastor a call in the morning. You are one messed up kid.

                              Originally posted by freakyvoiz View Post
                              I do not understand how I am being hateful though? I asked a simple question wanting a logical answer. I created another thread to ask what the church felt about newer Christian music in the "mainstream" and how it is reaching kids nowadays, but my thread was deleted before I saw even a single post. Why not give me a slight chance to prove to you I am a good Christian and that I have a heart filled with love and forgiveness?
                              The very first words you posted on this forum were "let's go get a 64." Is that what passes for "love" in your church?

                              If you have a question, use the "search" feature on this forum.

                              I'm left wondering why you haven't asked your own pastor about these things.
                              Who Will Jesus Damn?

                              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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