[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

May I ask how Brother Marshall is wrong? You use the term "grossly wrong, yet you fail to provide any evidence for this.

I would appreciate if you would stop by the introduction forum and give us a quick introduction about yourself and etc along with your specific complaints about how we have "grossly represented" the Word of God.

Style points earned for originally of argument occasionally handed out.

Go my son, and earn your way into efame or be crushed like the rest under the unadulterated Truth of the Word.

Hi EFamous Pst. Williams;
Marshal is wrong ok? and a whole lot of other Guys in this forum., I have been responding to other issues which I may not have the time to repeat in this reply.... I have gone through the introduction and thats why am here.

Now i got an infraction for saying a pastor was wrong and even though they have not proved him right so i wouldn't say you're wrong in order not to get another one., But, Lemme quickly give a drive thru'
1.) A man says its cool to sleep with you're Daughter (How he even gets the Urge is what I dont Know)
2.) Another says if Men come to your House and want to have sex with you, or other male habitants of your house, give them your daughters Instead (Virgins and the ones dis-virgined by you their Father) Inclusive.

etc etc etc

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

About Jesus Calling People Names... My Question is: who did he call names? Pharisees and Sadducees(Men of God), People that think they're the closest to God and Hence Judge others while their heart is miles away from God, not people who are living in sin (Let Him that thinketh He stands take Heed, Lest He falls

Not all of these people were Pharisees or Sadducees. Indeed, many of them weren't.

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"WICKED AND ADULTEROUS" Mat. 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation" (see also Mat. 12:45, 13:49, 18:32, 21:41, 25:26, Luke 19:22, 1Cor. 5:13, 2Thes. 3:2, 2Pet. 2:7, 3:17)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Well, Ickie, the New Testament says that if men come to your house to rape your male guests, the righteous thing to do is to offer up your virginal daughters instead. Is that what you think? It IS what we think, because WE believe God's word.

Here are a few choice words Jesus had for others:

"...a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.... But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." Matthew 15:22-26; Mark 7:27

So, was the Canaanite dog-woman a Pharisee or a Sadducee?

Its Amazing that you a "True Christian" Fails to realize that that verse came from the OT, and the Guy in question made the decision to give his daughters instead of his visitors and Not a direct order from God.

On Jesus, I have also noticed that you guys just pick a portion and throw it across to confuse the daft. Here is a completion of that verse for your perusal if you will
::::22 And, behold, a woman of zCanaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, athou Son of David; my daughter is grievously bvexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, cSend her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, dI am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and eworshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to fdogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.:::

that simply means that whatsoever the case... if you persevere., God can save anyone!!!!!

The Moral to the Story:

1.) Stop Quoting verses out of Context
2.) Make some research of your Own... Don't go running to someone to explain a book written in english. Its not my Native Language and I can understand it., why cant you Big One?

I Hope to get the final Infraction from Pastor Ezekiel or that sweet Little girl., who may have Opened up to the Dad because that is what http://www.landoverbaptist.net teaches.

[WWJDnow]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

You get 99% of your quotes from the OT, why not combine it with the NT... and balance it and see where it gets u!!!!!!

Well, Ickie, the New Testament says that if men come to your house to rape your male guests, the righteous thing to do is to offer up your virginal daughters instead. Is that what you think? It IS what we think, because WE believe God's word.

About Jesus Calling People Names... My Question is: who did he call names? Pharisees and Sadducees(Men of God), People that think they're the closest to God and Hence Judge others while their heart is miles away from God, not people who are living in sin (Let Him that thinketh He stands take Heed, Lest He falls)

Here are a few choice words Jesus had for others:

"...a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.... But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." Matthew 15:22-26; Mark 7:27

So, was the Canaanite dog-woman a Pharisee or a Sadducee?

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

But if kids want to have sex with their parents, then would you consider that to be OK?


Sort of like how YOU came in here and start judging us and our faith, seeming to believe yourself to be closer to God.


Oh, are you a truther? I heard that robot Dick Cheney personally set the explosive charges in the towers.



--> You.



No.

People choose to allow their hearts to become hardened. It has nothing to do with "human nature". The term "human nature" is nothing but an excuse to avoid responsibility for sin.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Pastor., I see that the Problem with this forum is the inability of its members to accept the truth even when its glaring with backings from the scriptures... the man was not aware that he slept with his daughters, so how can old man say He did it because he wanted to and he went ahead to say its acceptable., I pointed that out to you and all you could do was ask an ambiguous question::::::::::But if kids want to have sex with their parents, then would you consider that to be OK?:::::::::::::::::::::::: was that the Original Point.... My question still remains Based on Biblical Stories did the man sleep with his daughters out of his own free-will? Did God ask him/his daughters to do so? Is it part of the laid down commandments (Thou shalt/Thou shalt not)? Is it Part of the Laws of Moses and the Prophets? Is it right/biblical for a man to sleep with his daughter?

Judgment:: I never Judged anyone on this forum., I just pointed out some loopholes in the statements being made here., On the Other Hand I have read from these forums Horrible words used to define others from supposed Christians in this forum.

Truther? No am not even American but I have read the CIA files cos its everywhere on the net., And I can tell you that as a structural Engineer/IT Tech., those Postulations are Impossible. And to crown it all., the truthers have asked vital questions which nobody in the CIA or their support has come forward to disprove and while it remains so.... I remain so.

Hardness of heart::: People choose to allow their Hearts to be Hardened? yes quite alright but the Point I want you to pick from that., which is the most important is that Moses gave them the rule because of that(hardness of heart) So the question you have not answered is... So in the OT some laws were made because of certain conditions?

Pastor please endeavor to answer my questions as you have left most of the questions i asked unanswered.

Thanks a Lot and I'm expecting another set of infractions because I guess thats what happens when some-one is right and you're wrong.

I'm earnestly waiting.

God bless you Pastor.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Ok., Pastor Billy, "Come let us make our Father Drink Wine", that means the Man was Under the Influence, Hence and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose., they should have tried it when His Brain was Clear.... And Also It was the Ladies that Initiated the act, Not the Man Himself. So people shouldn't be walking around wanting to sleep with their Kids because its in the Bible... thats gross Mis-intepretation.

But if kids want to have sex with their parents, then would you consider that to be OK?

About Jesus Calling People Names... My Question is: who did he call names? Pharisees and Sadducees(Men of God), People that think they're the closest to God and Hence Judge others while their heart is miles away from God, not people who are living in sin (Let Him that thinketh He stands take Heed, Lest He falls)

Sort of like how YOU came in here and start judging us and our faith, seeming to believe yourself to be closer to God.

9/11 was a provocation alright., Don't forget I Quoted Iraq., was that a provocation too? Even on 9/11 I have read many conspiracy theories that have asked many unanswered questions.

Oh, are you a truther? I heard that robot Dick Cheney personally set the explosive charges in the towers.



--> You.

Finally., Why did Christ tell People that Moses gave them the Law of Divorce because of the HARDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS... Does that mean, Pastor that some of the OT laws were given because of the human Nature then?

No.

People choose to allow their hearts to become hardened. It has nothing to do with "human nature". The term "human nature" is nothing but an excuse to avoid responsibility for sin.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

That is a story right from the Bible: Gen 19:31-38

And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

Jesus NEVER called unbelievers names, did he?

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


He did, but not because He thought they were fun, "cool", or interesting.

Luke 5:31-32 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


9/11 was not a provocation? Have you forgotten?


2/3 of the passages I mentioned in this post came from the NT. I have one more for you, let's bring it up to 75%.

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Ok., Pastor Billy, "Come let us make our Father Drink Wine", that means the Man was Under the Influence, Hence and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose., they should have tried it when His Brain was Clear.... And Also It was the Ladies that Initiated the act, Not the Man Himself. So people shouldn't be walking around wanting to sleep with their Kids because its in the Bible... thats gross Mis-intepretation.

About Jesus Calling People Names... My Question is: who did he call names? Pharisees and Sadducees(Men of God), People that think they're the closest to God and Hence Judge others while their heart is miles away from God, not people who are living in sin (Let Him that thinketh He stands take Heed, Lest He falls)

9/11 was a provocation alright., Don't forget I Quoted Iraq., was that a provocation too? Even on 9/11 I have read many conspiracy theories that have asked many unanswered questions.

Finally., Why did Christ tell People that Moses gave them the Law of Divorce because of the HARDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS... Does that mean, Pastor that some of the OT laws were given because of the human Nature then?

And thanks for the 1000 Points Infraction... I Appreciate.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Mr. Marshall... Isn't It a good thing that you're not God.
Dishing out Judgement and Hell to everyone you disagree with., even though you're grossly wrong.

Have Fun., and while you're at it :get a life:

May I ask how Brother Marshall is wrong? You use the term "grossly wrong, yet you fail to provide any evidence for this.

I would appreciate if you would stop by the introduction forum and give us a quick introduction about yourself and etc along with your specific complaints about how we have "grossly represented" the Word of God.

Style points earned for originally of argument occasionally handed out.

Go my son, and earn your way into efame or be crushed like the rest under the unadulterated Truth of the Word.

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

would you like to purchase any of my homemade unguents, tinctures, or salves for your itchy skin?

They are all made with the bog water behind my trailer, opossum testicle extract, and some of my personal organic accumulates from within my fleshfolds. They good for what ails ya, Guaranteed!

yours in Christ,

Lori Humongous

And for you Humongous maybe you need to cut back on that Bog Water you've been assimilating with the testicle extract and the organic bla... I guess thats why you look more like a wharthog than Human... Really

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Prayers are wasted on you foul sinner.
Enjoy Hell.

Mr. Marshall... Isn't It a good thing that you're not God.
Dishing out Judgement and Hell to everyone you disagree with., even though you're grossly wrong.

Have Fun., and while you're at it :get a life:

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

What about a Guy choosing to have sex with His Daughter with the feeble reason that God did not say otherwise?

That is a story right from the Bible: Gen 19:31-38

And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

What about calling unbelievers all sorts of names?

Jesus NEVER called unbelievers names, did he?

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

did Jesus not eat with sinners

He did, but not because He thought they were fun, "cool", or interesting.

Luke 5:31-32 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

what about supporting the Stupid wars Bush went to without any reason or Provocation whatsoever(Iraq).

9/11 was not a provocation? Have you forgotten?

You get 99% of your quotes from the OT, why not combine it with the NT... and balance it and see where it gets u!!!!!!

2/3 of the passages I mentioned in this post came from the NT. I have one more for you, let's bring it up to 75%.

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

You get 99% of your quotes from the OT, why not combine it with the NT... and balance it and see where it gets u!!!!!!

I hope you are not suggesting that the New Testament contradicts the Old Testament!

If the Old Testament is not true, then Jesus is not the Messiah. There would be nothing for Him to be the Messiah of!

Jesus claimed to be the God of the Old Testament. So everything God said in the Old Testament was actually said by Jesus!

John 10:30King James Version (KJV)


30I and my Father are one.


If Jesus was not the God of the Old Testament, then He was a liar!

God does not change His mind!

Malachi 3:6

King James Version (KJV)


6For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

[Humongous]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

I have seen more Hate and curse-words in this site than most I have been to.
What are you guys promoting... really., Christianity? I dont think so

would you like to purchase any of my homemade unguents, tinctures, or salves for your itchy skin?

They are all made with the bog water behind my trailer, opossum testicle extract, and some of my personal organic accumulates from within my fleshfolds. They good for what ails ya, Guaranteed!

yours in Christ,

Lori Humongous

[Ickie_Menses]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

Can you show me what we have taken out of context from the Bible?

I'll bet you a dollar you can't.

What about a Guy choosing to have sex with His Daughter with the feeble reason that God did not say otherwise?... What about calling unbelievers all sorts of names? did Jesus not eat with sinners... what about supporting the Stupid wars Bush went to without any reason or Provocation whatsoever(Iraq).
You get 99% of your quotes from the OT, why not combine it with the NT... and balance it and see where it gets u!!!!!!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US!

I have seen more Hate and curse-words in this site than most I have been to.
What are you guys promoting... really., Christianity? I dont think so

Can you show me what we have taken out of context from the Bible?

I'll bet you a dollar you can't.