A Muslim lady

[Mai]

Hello everyone

This is Mai, I am a medecine student .I am interested in meeting different people and to know different culture and religion ..I came across this site from surffing forums..I hope to know more about each others ..I am not here to attack anyone religion, am very open minded person .I will be happy to make you know more about me ..do not worry am not a terrorist ..lol..and if you wonder I do not wear burqa but I wear hejab (covering my body except face and hand).

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: A Muslim lady

Why do you spit in the loving face of Jesus Christ?
Why do you reject Him to worship the moon?

You DO KNOW that muslims really worship the moon, don't you?
Ever heard of Hubal mayhap? If not, look it up.

Why don't you reject your false moon-god and his cameljockey of a "prophet" and accept the true God Jesus Christ?


PS.
Do you have your husbands or fathers permission to be here?

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

Come on S.S this is my intro ..no need to be this harsh .. I can answer all your question if you are interested in the answer but if we are just going to insult each other so maybe this place is not for me ..as I said am not interested in attacking anyone ..am open minded person and I seek conversation with open minded people..kets keep it cool: )

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: A Muslim lady

Come on S.S this is my intro ..no need to be this harsh .. I can answer all your question if you are interested in the answer but if we are just going to insult each other so maybe this place is not for me ..as I said am not interested in attacking anyone ..am open minded person and I seek conversation with open minded people..kets keep it cool: )

Just to clarify our most holy beliefs:
We DO NOT believe in liberalism, free-thinking, being tolerant, or even democracy here.
Such things lead to certain damnation, the infallibe Word of God, the KJV1611 Bible, is very clear on this point.
GOD isn't some democrat, He rules the earth with an iron rod and He will destroy all the infidels who refuse to serve Him.
Praise God!


But well.. Okay. Do answer my questions..
Just why have you embraced a false religion and why do you worship Hubal, the false moon-god?
Were you brainwashed and/or forced into becoming a muslim by your family?
Because that's usually the way the story goes..

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

Just to clarify our most holy beliefs:
We DO NOT believe in liberalism, free-thinking, being tolerant, or even democracy here.
Such things lead to certain damnation, the infallibe Word of God, the KJV1611 Bible, is very clear on this point.
GOD isn't some democrat, He rules the earth with an iron rod and He will destroy all the infidels who refuse to serve Him.
Praise God!


But well.. Okay. Do answer my questions..
Just why have you embraced a false religion and why do you worship Hubal, the false moon-god?
Were you brainwashed and/or forced into becoming a muslim by your family?
Because that's usually the way the story goes..

Well, there is a difference between being open minded and being liberal ..I do not think that Christianity teach not to be tolerant at least I do not think that Jesus peace be upon him teached that !

You asked "why have you embraced a false religion and why do you worship Hubal, the false moon-god?" Well I can't answer this question since I do not worship a moon god or hubal and I personally do not where did you get this false info from? I have been Muslim through all my life and I never heard about that .

Our holy book name is the Quran ..IN THE QURAN, ALLAH SAID(translation) :

"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." [Quran 41:37]

This prove what I say .You as English speaker say God but not all the world say God ,different language have different names for God ,we Arabs say Allah actually Christian and Jews Arab say Allah ..In the Arabic Bible the word Allah is every where in the bible ..it is present 17 time in the first page. If you do not believe me Go to any hotel, you will find a bible.Look at the language translated there .You will find the word Allah in the Arabic language sampel...Allah mean the only one God

I believe in the God of All the prophets(Abraham,Noah,Moses,Jesus and Muhammad)peace be upon them all.I believe he is one, unique and nothing in the creation is like him

If I am brainwashed I would not willingfully come to your forum .I do not think it is wise to judge someone who to be brainwashed just because he has different believes .

Peace

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A Muslim lady

I just want to say here a TRUE Christian Republican white American I have no tolerance for religious fanatics. That's why everyone needs to convert to Baptist Christians to stop the zealots before they destroy the world.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: A Muslim lady

Well, there is a difference between being open minded and being liberal ..I do not think that Christianity teach not to be tolerant at least I do not think that Jesus peace be upon him teached that !

Then I suggest you read the Bible.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6

Jesus is the ONLY WAY. (to Heaven)
And there is no other! Worshipping "allah" and following moohamhead will only lead to damnation.

You asked "why have you embraced a false religion and why do you worship Hubal, the false moon-god?" Well I can't answer this question since I do not worship a moon god or hubal and I personally do not where did you get this false info from? I have been Muslim through all my life and I never heard about that .

Of course you ain't heard it.. Few muslims have.
That's because satan does his best to hide the truth from you.

Our holy book name is the Quran ..IN THE QURAN, ALLAH SAID(translation) :

"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." [Quran 41:37]

Oh dear....
Look, I know what the Qu'ran is, and what the name means. I even understand a little arabic, so do not take me for an idiot.
Second, the Qu'ran is false, and not recognized here..
It was written by Muhammed for worldy purposes, as Islam is worldy and not spiritual.
God didn't write it, God didn't dictate it.

You as English speaker say God but not all the world say God ,different language have different names for God ,we Arabs say Allah actually Christian and Jews Arab say Allah ..In the Arabic Bible the word Allah is every where in the bible ..it is present 17 time in the first page. If you do not believe me Go to any hotel, you will find a bible.Look at the language translated there .You will find the word Allah in the Arabic language sampel...Allah mean the only one God

The arabic bible is.. as most so-called bibles are - false and incorrect.
(Not to mention that it's very new, so it doesn't prove jack.)
Only the King James Version of 1611, dictated by God Himself, is reliable.
And maybe I should remind you, before islam, NOT a single Bible, EVER - used the name "allah" for God.

Allah, or al-ilah, was the name arabic pagans called their individual tribal "god".
The god of Muhammed's tribe was named Hubal, but referred to as.. guess what? Allah.

Now:
Guess what the most "holy site" where he was worshipped was? The Kaba.
Guess how they worshipped him? By making pilgrimage to the Kaba, kissing the stone, and praying towards it.
They also throw rocks at idols (well, sticks) meant to symbolize demons.. Now, does any of this sound familiar somehow?
And guess what Hubal's symbol was? A crescent moon.
And what symbol does Islam use? Well, you know the answer to that one..

Have you tried asking the mullah WHY Islam uses the crescent moon for a symbol, or why the muslim calender is based on the moon..
Or why Ramadan (the Hubal worshippers had ramadan too btw) begins with the PHYSICAL SIGHTING OF THE MOON??

I believe in the God of All the prophets(Abraham,Noah,Moses,Jesus and Muhammad)peace be upon them all.I believe he is one, unique and nothing in the creation is like him

I am sure that's what you believe you believe.
But unless you believe on Jesus the Son, who'm the true God sent to redeem the earth of sin, then you are already lost:
And on the freeway towards eternal torment in HELL!

If I am brainwashed I would not willingfully come to your forum .I do not think it is wise to judge someone who to be brainwashed just because he has different believes .

Because "HE" has different beliefs??
I thought you claimed to be a woman??



PS.
Do you, like most muslims, consider Muhammed to be a perfect muslim?
Do you really consider a 50+ year old man, who had sex with a 9-YEAR OLD GIRL, perfect??

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: A Muslim lady

Hello, Mai.

I'm thrilled to hear that you are interested in learning about Christianity. I am positive that Christ himself has led you here.

We believe that all of mankind are depraved sinners, and we are all subject to God's wrath and condemnation. We are only saved from our just punishment through the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and his bodily resurrection from the dead.

A person can only be saved through faith and the grace of God, not through his own works. All who are born again and become a new creature in Christ are saved and will be rewarded in Heaven. Everyone else will be tormented for eternity in Hell.

Praise God!

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

I hope you find this helpful. I am praying that the Holy Spirit will speak to your heart, and that you can come to know God, amen.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: A Muslim lady

. .and if you wonder I do not wear burqa but I wear hejab (covering my body except face and hand).

You know what the Bible says about hijabs and burqas, don't you?

Genesis 38:14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife.
Genesis 38:15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.

There's no mistaken the Bible: The only women, who cover themselves with veils and wraps themselves, are harlots.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A Muslim lady

You asked "why have you embraced a false religion and why do you worship Hubal, the false moon-god?" Well I can't answer this question since I do not worship a moon god or hubal and I personally do not where did you get this false info from? I have been Muslim through all my life and I never heard about that .

Peace

Let me introduce you to a little history, before you decide to strap a bomb vest on and blow yourself up for no reason.

1. Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.
2. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
3. This Hubal was a moon god.
4. One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
   
   

   "About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam." (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)

5. The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
6. "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
7. There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
8. When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
9. Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
10. Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
11. Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.

Maybe its time that you let Christ in your heart. Let Him wash away your sins with His sweet blood. You won't be sorry!

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

Hello, Mai.

I'm thrilled to hear that you are interested in learning about Christianity. I am positive that Christ himself has led you here.

We believe that all of mankind are depraved sinners, and we are all subject to God's wrath and condemnation. We are only saved from our just punishment through the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and his bodily resurrection from the dead.

A person can only be saved through faith and the grace of God, not through his own works. All who are born again and become a new creature in Christ are saved and will be rewarded in Heaven. Everyone else will be tormented for eternity in Hell.

Praise God!

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

I hope you find this helpful. I am praying that the Holy Spirit will speak to your heart, and that you can come to know God, amen.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Thank you so much

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

You know what the Bible says about hijabs and burqas, don't you?

Genesis 38:14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife.
Genesis 38:15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.

There's no mistaken the Bible: The only women, who cover themselves with veils and wraps themselves, are harlots.

Actually as I said I do not cover my face but the way we dress is much similar to the dress of nuns or Mary peace be upon her (pictures)

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A Muslim lady

Actually as I said I do not cover my face but the way we dress is much similar to the dress of nuns or Mary peace be upon her (pictures)

We are not filthy mary worshipers, so please don't confuse us with those ring-kissing papist dogs. They aren't even Christians!

In fact you mudslime moon-god worshipers ARE alot like those idolators the catlicks. Both are nothing but pagan cults.

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

Hello S.S and pastor EZ

I want to clarify some points, in Arabia before Islam there was hundreds of Idols hubal and many others .People was worshiping this idols as an intermediate between them and Allah . The Arabs know of Allah because Abraham visited Meccah and together with his son Ishmael laid the foundation of the Ka'abah. The descendants of Ishmael retained some of the worship rites and beliefs from Abraham. but they thought they need an intermediate to deliver their prayers to this one God .Islam came to tell them stop worshiping idols and worship God alone with no partner. As I said the Arabic word for God is Allah, this is why I told you that Arab Christian and Jews says Allah regardless if you believe they are on the true path or not ..even if they had your believes they will stay have the same word in their bible not the word god because they speak Arabic not English. same for other languages

You know what!! imagine that I said to an Arab that the word "the god" in English mean moon, he may believe me if he knows nothing about English but if you guys listen to this what would be your reaction ? this is exactly my reaction now

I am Arab .Arabic is my first language so what u guys talk about is like A,B,C to me ."al " mean "the" and "Ilah" mean "god(small g)" in English language, the word god mean anything to be worshiped, if someone worship a rock he will call it god but you put capital G if you mean the God almighty who sent Abraham ,noah, soliman, moses, etc…

"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "ilah"a god' or something worshiped. - (Arabic) means '

This word (ilah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."

"Allah" comes from "ilaha" but it brings more clarification and understanding because unlike the word "ilah" it can not be plural and it can not have a gender in the Arabic langauge so it become the perfect word to describe the only God.

Muslim do not worship the Kabaa but they worship Allah in the direction of the kabaa this to make Muslims all over the world have one direction, you will never find one Muslim who worship the Kabaa or even a moon God, believe me .no one , the one who told you this is lying ..because if a Muslim make any partner to the only one God this make him out of Islam .as simple as that.

And to give you more historical facts, pligramage to mekka is from the time of prophet Abraham then by time satan start to make people make partner with God so they start to associate idol partner with God so instead of pligramage to worship the only God they were worshiping other partners with him, tell prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him came and cleared makka from all idols back to worship the only God alone with no partner "Allah" in Arabic.

Pastor Ez ..You said that Islam now is monotheistic religion( true) so why you said we worship moon God ? doesn't make sense.

SS you said :
"And guess what Hubal's symbol was? A crescent moon.
And what symbol does Islam use? Well, you know the answer to that one"

The Qur'ân answers this question before you asked it. Read this verse:
They ask you about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage (Qur'ân 2:189)
"The Crescent Moon was just the symbol of Constantinople which was adopted by the Turks when they conquered the city in the 15th Century, they'd later put the symbol above their Mosques to differentiate them from Orthodox Churches (i.e. this is a 'Turkish' Church). It's not the symbol of Islam and has absolutely nothing to do with the religion itself, in many parts of the Muslim world (where the Ottoman Empire had no or little influence) the Crescent Moon is mostly unheard of."
I think this is why you guys get the idea of we worship moon God.


"Maybe its time that you let Christ in your heart. Let Him wash away your sins"
with His sweet blood. You won't be sorry!
My heart is very open to the truth ..I pray for God to guide me 17 time a day so I know he will !!
About old man get married to young girl , I know about that and I can help you to know but maybe in another thread.

[Mai]

Re: A Muslim lady

We are not filthy mary worshipers, so please don't confuse us with those ring-kissing papist dogs. They aren't even Christians!

In fact you mudslime moon-god worshipers ARE alot like those idolators the catlicks. Both are nothing but pagan cults.

Sorry , I didnt say you worship mary peace be upon her ..I was merly talking about the dress..you believe in mary ..right?