Message to Everyone

[DeusCaritasEst]

You are all terrible sinners.

Though this is against my morals, which were bestowed to me from the Bible (and yes, even the King James version) I must speak out to you. I hope the Lord will forgive me for judging you as a whole, and I know not all of you feel as strongly as others in this cult, but I must generalize for the sake of being quick. You people as a whole are disgusting. You are all sinners, and the things you do and say are utterly terrible. I pray that you all will change someday, because I know if you don't, on Judgement Day you will wish you would have. When you are sent into the depths of hell for the pain and suffering you have given to thousands of people, I will not feel sorrow for you. And I will not help but feel fulfillment and justification when I can gaze into your eyes and see the look of abandonment and betrayal, just because you all were ignorant enough to use the Bible for hatred when it was intended for love. You are all giving Christianity a terrible name and a reason for Christians to be persecuted.

I know I must have offended some of you and I am sorry for that. But I just hope deep inside some of you feel that what you are doing is wrong, and you can change before it is to late.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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That was a lousy introduction. Tell us about yourself, your church, and your relationship with Jesus.

And by the way, Jesus DID NOT die for everyone.

He died for those that BELIEVE.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.

[DeusCaritasEst]

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Well, My name is Rob, I'm 21, and I found Jesus at a very young age. I have been through a lot of pain over the years, but my faith is unshakable. And as for what you're saying, yes, the non believers WILL PERISH. But Jesus died to give them a chance for everlasting life. Just because you aren't born saved, or you're a 50 year old atheist doesn't mean you should be killed for not believing (as I've heard some of you say). Jesus wants all to be given a chance to enter his kingdom. Even those who hate him now, may have a chance later, and Jesus still loves them now.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. --2 Chronicles 15:13

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.--Luke 19:27

What church do you attend, Rob?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Well, My name is Rob, I'm 21, and I found Jesus at a very young age. I have been through a lot of pain over the years, but my faith is unshakable. And as for what you're saying, yes, the non believers WILL PERISH. But Jesus died to give them a chance for everlasting life. Just because you aren't born saved, or you're a 50 year old atheist doesn't mean you should be killed for not believing (as I've heard some of you say). Jesus wants all to be given a chance to enter his kingdom. Even those who hate him now, may have a chance later, and Jesus still loves them now.

I'm rather skeptical you have even read a Bible because you are overlooking some obvious things. In your original post you have the chagrin of accusing us of being sinners. But, you should know that once we become Saved by Christ, all our sins are washed away, and we sin no more. True Christians™ are sinless, therefore, we are not sinners.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

1st John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1st John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1st John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1st John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

As for arguing that killing non-believers is somehow "unChristian", you are most certainly wrong. Again, if you would actually read the book that you supposedly believe is the Word of God and your guide, you would find that in multiple places, God commands us to kill unbelievers. (Of course, we don't actually do so because it would be in violation of the commandments to obey secular law....see Romans 13, for example).


Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Exodus 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Deuteronomy 13:6,9 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;. . . . But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

EDIT: Also see Pastor Zeke's Chronicles quote above. You really haven't ever read the Bible have you?

[Jedediah]

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You are all terrible sinners.

Though this is against my morals, which were bestowed to me from the Bible (and yes, even the King James version) I must speak out to you. I hope the Lord will forgive me for judging you as a whole, and I know not all of you feel as strongly as others in this cult, but I must generalize for the sake of being quick. You people as a whole are disgusting. You are all sinners, and the things you do and say are utterly terrible. I pray that you all will change someday, because I know if you don't, on Judgement Day you will wish you would have. When you are sent into the depths of hell for the pain and suffering you have given to thousands of people, I will not feel sorrow for you. And I will not help but feel fulfillment and justification when I can gaze into your eyes and see the look of abandonment and betrayal, just because you all were ignorant enough to use the Bible for hatred when it was intended for love. You are all giving Christianity a terrible name and a reason for Christians to be persecuted.

I know I must have offended some of you and I am sorry for that. But I just hope deep inside some of you feel that what you are doing is wrong, and you can change before it is to late.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16

Boy, you are a FALSE CHRISTIAN, and it will be us who laugh at you from the bosom of Christ while you burn in hell for all eternity! As True Christians™ who follow the entire KJV 1611 to the letter, we are perfect in the eyes of the LORD.

As the perfect Children of God, it is we True Christians™ who stand in righteous judgment of you!

It is ironic that you say that we are the reason Christians are persecuted, when it is you who come here to persecute us for following His Word exactly as it was written. Your persecution only strengthens my faith in the Word, because Jesus told us to expect wicked men such as yourself.

Matthew 5:10-11
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

I sincerely hope you will quit persecuting those who follow the His Word in its entirety. Instead of tearing the pages that you don't like out of the Bible, why don't you try... hmmm... READING THE BIBLE?

[DeusCaritasEst]

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"But, you should know that once we become Saved by Christ, all our sins are washed away, and we sin no more. True Christians™ are sinless, therefore, we are not sinners."

So you're saying if you were to kill a man, and be killed seconds later you firmly believe you would enter heaven? Because since you're saved you can "sin no more".

[BelieverInGod]

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Well first of all I'm wondering why a KJV believing Christian would be using a papist language as his name.

Second, have you actually read the Bible? Not just the parts your pastor tells you to read, but the whole thing? When I was about 12 and going to fuzzy bunny baptist church with my parents, I actually started reading the Bible and questioning my parents and pastors about things they did not teach about. They were so soft with their answers that I turned against religion as a whole. Fortunately Jesus did not let go of me and led me back into the fold later in life as a True Christian™

Our culture has become soft, and because of that they want a soft Jesus. So instead of teaching about the Jesus in the Bible, they're teaching about some watered down, milk-toast hippie guy that doesn't look like the Jesus of the Bible at all.

Edit:
Funny, I did a quick search on DeusCaritasEst and it turns out to be the title of the first encyclical written by Pope Benedict XVI

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html

Is there something you'd like to admit to?

[Jedediah]

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So you're saying if you were to kill a man, and be killed seconds later you firmly believe you would enter heaven? Because since you're saved you can "sin no more".

Murder is a sin. A True Christian™ does not murder. Try again.



The plot thickens.

No wonder you don't know the Holy Bible! You've only heard It sung in Latin by pederasts!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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So you're saying if you were to kill a man, and be killed seconds later you firmly believe you would enter heaven? Because since you're saved you can "sin no more".

I think you misunderstood what I was saying, but that's understandable since your knowledge of the Bible is only rudimentary. Go back and read 1 John 3:6-9 (I quoted it above). It says, in essence, if you truly love Jesus and have faith in Him (abide in Him), you will not sin. You won't sin because you are pure and won't be led astray by the Devil.

Obviously killing an innocent man would be a sin. A True Christian(tm) like myself would not kill an innocent man. Do you see my point? Because I walk with Him in the Light, I will not sin. I know what is right and what is wrong, and I choose to live righteously.

[Dirk]

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You are all terrible sinners.

Though this is against my morals, which were bestowed to me from the Bible (and yes, even the King James version) I must speak out to you. I hope the Lord will forgive me for judging you as a whole, and I know not all of you feel as strongly as others in this cult, but I must generalize for the sake of being quick. You people as a whole are disgusting. You are all sinners, and the things you do and say are utterly terrible. I pray that you all will change someday, because I know if you don't, on Judgement Day you will wish you would have. When you are sent into the depths of hell for the pain and suffering you have given to thousands of people, I will not feel sorrow for you. And I will not help but feel fulfillment and justification when I can gaze into your eyes and see the look of abandonment and betrayal, just because you all were ignorant enough to use the Bible for hatred when it was intended for love. You are all giving Christianity a terrible name and a reason for Christians to be persecuted.

I know I must have offended some of you and I am sorry for that. But I just hope deep inside some of you feel that what you are doing is wrong, and you can change before it is to late.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16

This is your introduction........we still know nothing of you. Tell us more about yourself.

[GOD=life]

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Friend, I see a lot of opinion in your post, but no facts.

You are all giving Christianity a terrible name and a reason for Christians to be persecuted.

Wait, so now you're blaming us for our own persecution? Even though we live life by the Bible exactly as God intended it?

I say: bring on the persecution! It will only improve our standing with God.

I know I must have offended some of you...

You figure? What could possibly be offensive about barging in on a Christian forum and go "You are all terrible sinners".

John 3:16

You do realize that the Bible consists of more than one verse, right?

[Brother Snapper Grogan]

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I'm only a (very) humble Forum Member, but even I can see that you've never read the True Bible. It sounds to me as if you've been misled by the lies of fuzzy bunny Christians or, far worse, catylicks.

Were you interfered with as a little boy, DCE? Were you an alter boy? Were you made to kiss your priest's ring?

It may be that recounting the horrors imposed on you by the skirt-wearing kiddie-fidlers will be the first step in cleansing your soul. Spare us no details - God will protect us and you.