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  • Goggles
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Aug 2010
    • 15

    #1

    So wait...

    After fourteen years of being groomed into Christianity, due to my parents decision, I have finally seen the light. How, after all these years where science has prevailed over religion, can people still believe that an omnipotent being that pulled a universe out of nowhere because he was lonely.

    Religion is simply a human-created entity, made to justify rules and legislation. And why would he create so many other planets, and only use one for life? Why are the other planets there. Are they part of God's "master plan"? Religion must have been created by people, because any "God" would have not left holes in his plans.
  • Sister Christina
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2010
    • 364

    #2
    Re: So wait...

    Originally posted by Goggles View Post
    After fourteen years of being groomed into Christianity, due to my parents decision, I have finally seen the light. How, after all these years where science has prevailed over religion, can people still believe that an omnipotent being that pulled a universe out of nowhere because he was lonely.

    Religion is simply a human-created entity, made to justify rules and legislation. And why would he create so many other planets, and only use one for life? Why are the other planets there. Are they part of God's "master plan"? Religion must have been created by people, because any "God" would have not left holes in his plans.
    If He didn't create them, how could a star have heralded the birth of Jesus?

    Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
    Matthew 2:2

    Praise Him!
    "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." - Revelation 1:8

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    • Brother Temperance
      Senior Usher
      True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
      A very nice young man
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 15621

      #3
      Re: So wait...

      Originally posted by Goggles View Post
      After fourteen years of being groomed into Christianity, due to my parents decision, I have finally seen the light. How, after all these years where science has prevailed over religion, can people still believe that an omnipotent being that pulled a universe out of nowhere because he was lonely.
      Because it's still the best explanation.
      Religion is simply a human-created entity, made to justify rules and legislation.
      That is true of every other religion except ours, which was created by God.
      And why would he create so many other planets, and only use one for life? Why are the other planets there. Are they part of God's "master plan"? Religion must have been created by people, because any "God" would have not left holes in his plans.
      Maybe God just wanted some ornaments? Come back to God when you've created a universe and pick holes in His plan then.
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • Goggles
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
        • Aug 2010
        • 15

        #4
        Re: So wait...

        Okay, 2000 years ago, people didn't know what stars were made of. We now know through science that they are burning gas balls left over from the Big Bang.

        So he made a star and left it in one place to guide a bunch of people to his son's birth? Why did he make more than one? What's the point?

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        • Goggles
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
          • Aug 2010
          • 15

          #5
          Re: So wait...

          That is true of every other religion except ours, which was created by God
          And like every person here, you believe that you are right because your leader says so. And ignorance takes over. Think for yourself and not for your "lord".

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          • Sister Christina
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2010
            • 364

            #6
            Re: So wait...

            Originally posted by Goggles View Post
            Okay, 2000 years ago, people didn't know what stars were made of. We now know through science that they are burning gas balls left over from the Big Bang.

            So he made a star and left it in one place to guide a bunch of people to his son's birth? Why did he make more than one? What's the point?
            The point is that they give us light during the night.

            And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth
            Genesis 1:16-17
            "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." - Revelation 1:8

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            • Pastor Ezekiel
              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
               
              • Sep 2006
              • 78555

              #7
              Re: So wait...

              First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

              Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

              Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


              Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

              And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

              I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • Brother Harold Porter
                Landover Senior Outreach
                Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2010
                • 8236

                #8
                Re: So wait...

                Originally posted by Goggles View Post
                After fourteen years of being groomed into Christianity, due to my parents decision, I have finally seen the light. How, after all these years where science has prevailed over religion, can people still believe that an omnipotent being that pulled a universe out of nowhere because he was lonely.

                Religion is simply a human-created entity, made to justify rules and legislation. And why would he create so many other planets, and only use one for life? Why are the other planets there. Are they part of God's "master plan"? Religion must have been created by people, because any "God" would have not left holes in his plans.
                Snot-nosed homosexual atheist twaddle. Your parents made every effort to show you the light of Jesus Christ and you refused their gift. You cannot overcome your wickedness with your nasty parts and now blame them for it. Strike one.

                KJV - Exodus 20:12 - "Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee."

                Many religions (including atheism) are indeed "human-created". But not Bible-based Christianity. Strike two.

                KJV - 2 Timothy 3:16 - "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

                God created the stars and planets for several reasons. Most importantly as a mathematical reference in Scripture. Strike three.

                KJV - Deuteronomy 28:62 - "And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God."

                Enjoy hell.



                Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                • Pastor Isaac Peters
                  Senior Pastor
                  Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                  Always Biblically correct
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 10639

                  #9
                  Re: So wait...

                  Originally posted by Goggles View Post
                  And like every person here, you believe that you are right because your leader says so. And ignorance takes over. Think for yourself and not for your "lord".
                  Dear friend:

                  You have it exactly backwards. We don't think for the Lord; He thinks for us:

                  Prov. 3:5: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
                  This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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                  • Goggles
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Re: So wait...

                    But not Bible-based Christianity.
                    I'd like proof of that. You'll probably reply with "faith", but that's mostly all you have to go by, isn't it.

                    Also, I don't remember anywhere in your big book of hate and sin, it says if you don't believe in God, you are homosexual? God must be very fickle with his people.

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                    • landoverlover
                      Also loves Jesus and America
                      True Christian™
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 828

                      #11
                      Re: So wait...

                      Originally posted by Goggles View Post
                      After fourteen years of being groomed into Christianity, due to my parents decision, I have finally seen the light. How, after all these years where science has prevailed over religion, can people still believe that an omnipotent being that pulled a universe out of nowhere because he was lonely.

                      Religion is simply a human-created entity, made to justify rules and legislation. And why would he create so many other planets, and only use one for life? Why are the other planets there. Are they part of God's "master plan"? Religion must have been created by people, because any "God" would have not left holes in his plans.
                      Son, you would even fail a secular logic course.

                      What makes you think science has "prevailed" over religion?

                      What explanation does science offer for so-called natural processes pulling a universe out of "nowhere"?

                      Why would God create all these other planets, you ask? Do you require a personal answer from Him in order to believe? Well, I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. (God may have created the planets to show us, the only living sentient creatures, how special we are in His universe). The point is God knows what you need before you ask for it. If He thinks you need an answer to this question, He will provide it. In the meantime, you are required to have faith.

                      Please describe the precise method a nuclear reactor works. I mean, down to describing each, individual step from processing fissionable materials to your flipping on a light switch at Three Mile Island. You can't do it, can you? I guess that means nuclear power plants can't exist, right?. And yet they do in spite of your ignorance. Apply this example to your star question, and then see how arrogant and ignorant it sounds.

                      You should at least read the Bible, KJV v1611, so what you know what you are arguing about. Taking half baked ideas you came up with between masturbation sessions is not wisdom.

                      Some of us have been not only young, but as dumb as you at the same time. I hope you grow out of it.
                      Leviticus 13:44 He is a leprous man, he is UNCLEAN: the priest shall pronounce him utterly UNCLEAN; his plague is in his head.

                      2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



                      King James Bible v1611

                      Good Enough For JESUS....Good Enough For Me !!

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78555

                        #12
                        Re: So wait...

                        Dear hatemonger:

                        This is a Christian forum. What are you doing here? Did satan send you?
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Goggles
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 15

                          #13
                          Re: So wait...

                          Yep, Satan himself called upon me, told me to search this website, and talk to people about disbelief. After all of my murder plots and terrorism acts were done, of course. It's a good life.

                          Also, the point is, I don't know how a nuclear reactor works, but I am absolutely sure someone in the world does. Does any Christian in the world know how the world was formed for sure? No. Does anyone? Most likely not. But coming up with answers without proof is not the answer. Discovering the answer, is the answer. Relying with one answer, however right it may seem to you, is ignorant. People should look into other people's answers, and see something else for themselves.

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                          • landoverlover
                            Also loves Jesus and America
                            True Christian™
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 828

                            #14
                            Re: So wait...

                            We have proof. It's called the Holy Bible. Trust me, you don't have anything better.
                            Leviticus 13:44 He is a leprous man, he is UNCLEAN: the priest shall pronounce him utterly UNCLEAN; his plague is in his head.

                            2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



                            King James Bible v1611

                            Good Enough For JESUS....Good Enough For Me !!

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                            • Lisa H
                              Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
                              True Christian™
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 5070

                              #15
                              Re: So wait...

                              Originally posted by Goggles View Post
                              Yep, Satan himself called upon me, told me to search this website, and talk to people about disbelief. After all of my murder plots and terrorism acts were done, of course. It's a good life.

                              Also, the point is, I don't know how a nuclear reactor works, but I am absolutely sure someone in the world does. Does any Christian in the world know how the world was formed for sure? No. Does anyone? Most likely not. But coming up with answers without proof is not the answer. Discovering the answer, is the answer. Relying with one answer, however right it may seem to you, is ignorant. People should look into other people's answers, and see something else for themselves.
                              You are such a fool. The Lord told us how the world was formed. God created it. The Bible tells us.
                              Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                              Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                              Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                              Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                              Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                              Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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