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I've gone to church about 2 yrs ago but that was only for my job. The last time I've been to a church service must've been around 6-7 years ago when somebody dragged me over there. My favorite bible verse is

Matthew 5:28 ESV "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

[Jedediah]

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Welcome, friend. It is truly fortuitous that the LORD has brought you here, that you may be instructed in sound True Christian™ doctrine.

Has wallowing in iniquity lost its luster for your? Are you prepared to accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior?

[Levi Jones]

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I've gone to church about 2 yrs ago but that was only for my job.

Your job required you to go to church?

Are you a man or a woman?

[Viggo B. Kristoffersen]

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I've gone to church about 2 yrs ago but that was only for my job. The last time I've been to a church service must've been around 6-7 years ago when somebody dragged me over there. My favorite bible verse is

Matthew 5:28 ESV "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Praise the LORD you found us.

You were obvious on a train heading straight for HELL. What's going on in your life right now, since you have decided to find JESUS here at God's favourite forum?
How old are you son?
Please tell us why Matthew 5:28 is your favourite Bible verse. Unless you, yourself have many filthy and sinful thougts, it seems a bit odd to favor this particular verse. Unless of course you are a True Christian™ who doesn't have a perverted mind. But to be honest I doubt that very much, since you haven't been in church for 6 or 7 years. Please explain yourself.

[Seth Campbell]

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I've gone to church about 2 yrs ago but that was only for my job. The last time I've been to a church service must've been around 6-7 years ago when somebody dragged me over there. My favorite bible verse is

What kind of job makes you go to church? As for your friend dragging you there, it's nice that you have friends who are concerned about your eternal soul. So are you here to learn more about Jesus? If you want a basic rundown of our church, please read this. I pray that you will open your heart to Jesus.

Matthew 5:28 ESV "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Well first of all you're going to have to get the right Bible. You can go to any Independent Baptist church and ask for an Authorized King James Version Bible, or you can read it here.

That seems like a strange favorite quote for someone who doesn't go to church. Can you explain what significance it has to you?

[Felicity]

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@replaced Welcome! I hope we can be friends!

Since you are new here please look at our please read this before posting and our your rights on this forum threads! If you already did that, just do it again. There you can learn that this forum is not about debating or unsaved opinions but about praising Jesus!

[Disciple Luke]

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My favorite bible verse is
Matthew 5:28 ESV "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Okey dokey. I do hope you can explain this verse a bit more. I had to have sexual intercourse with my wife 8 times to produce our three sons. Some say I am lucky. Some of my True Christian(tm) brothers had to do the deed many more times before God granted them a child.

Sadly my wife, Sarah, passed away in childbirth with our last little fella. That was now 8 months ago. I am due to remarry ten ten twenty ten. But I already have three great sons.

Do I have to have sexual intercourse with my new bride? I can care financially very comfortably for my new lady and my three sons. They will wont for nothing. But .... well you know .... do I have to "perform" on the wedding night?

[Lisa H]

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Is this another one of those people that come here, create an account, make 1 posting and never come back.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Okey dokey. I do hope you can explain this verse a bit more. I had to have sexual intercourse with my wife 8 times to produce our three sons. Some say I am lucky. Some of my True Christian™ brothers had to do the deed many more times before God granted them a child.

Sadly my wife, Sarah, passed away in childbirth with our last little fella. That was now 8 months ago. I am due to remarry ten ten twenty ten. But I already have three great sons.

Do I have to have sexual intercourse with my new bride? I can care financially very comfortably for my new lady and my three sons. They will wont for nothing. But .... well you know .... do I have to "perform" on the wedding night?

You and I are in a similar situation. I have just recently remarried, having already generated three Soldiers for Christ(tm) with my now deceased ex-wife.

I, for one, plan on propogating my seed yet further. We True Christians(tm) have a duty to breed as much as possible.

If you are worried that you might have a daughter, just remember you can always give her up for adoption. I had four daughters with Ethel and did just that.

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I do not care at all about the sin of adultery but instead that desires that you have are sinful. Whats the difference between having a very small desire to not sin like me and having a big desire? All I need to do is say that I'm a sinner and I'll still make it in heaven.

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (20) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 5:19-20

"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.' 22But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire. Matthew 5:21-22

So why are people trying to not sin again? To get in heaven or something? Everything you do here will be forgotten, the earth will pass away. Desires/wants also aren't an excuse to sin either, so pretty much every sin you do is "willfull." In fact, it seems that loving/desiring anything in this Earth is evil (sinful).

And about me not being at church, I believe that no where in the bible does it say that you need to be at service every week. It is a human tradition, much like folding your hands to pray, or wearing a cross.

[Levi Jones]

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I do not care at all about the sin of adultery but instead that desires that you have are sinful. Whats the difference between having a very small desire to not sin like me and having a big desire? All I need to do is say that I'm a sinner and I'll still make it in heaven.

I'm afraid not, friend. The Bible says that Christians are perfect.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

How could we not be perfect if Jesus himself admonishes us to be perfect?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

In the Book of Luke, Jesus tells us that in becoming perfect, we are like God.

Luke 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

So why are people trying to not sin again? To get in heaven or something?

That is the exact point. God will judge you for what you have done and your words.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Everything you do here will be forgotten.

Even by God?

Desires/wants also aren't an excuse to sin either, so pretty much every sin you do is "willfull." In fact, it seems that loving/desiring anything in this Earth is evil (sinful).

Not your brothers and sisters in Christ!

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

And about me not being at church, I believe that no where in the bible does it say that you need to be at service every week.
It is a human tradition, much like folding your hands to pray, or wearing a cross.

Then why did Paul bother writing all those Epistles to the churches in Greece and Rome telling them how to worship, organize and appoint leaders?

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I'm afraid not, friend. The Bible says that Christians are perfect.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

How could we not be perfect if Jesus himself admonishes us to be perfect?

You can't rely on your righteous works to get into heaven. Either you rely/trust jesus or believe that your righteous deeds good enough. How much good must you do to get the holy spirit in you?

"But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison." James 3:8 KJV

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8

So, are you saying that you have no sin? How can you repent of your evil desires? As I posted in my intro, if you even have any lust with a woman, then you've committed adultery. If you desire anything in this world such as money or even food (no wonder why he fasted). You have desires that rival your desire of showing love to god by obeying the commandments, since you can't infinitely desire something.

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

In the Book of Luke, Jesus tells us that in becoming perfect, we are like God.

Luke 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.


That is the exact point. God will judge you for what you have done and your words.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Let's quote more of revelations.

revelations 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14Then were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death Death and Hades, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

This means that people who have not rejected (spoke evil in their hearts) about the holy spirit, aren't even immediately sent to the lake of fire when they die! It does say in the bible that there is judgment after death but it does not say that it happens immediately after death. This does NOT refer to believers.

Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Even by God?

No, I meant regular people. God still remembers people in the back of his mind.

Not your brothers and sisters in Christ!

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

The bible says that the will of the father is to believe in him & look upon him, that's it! And it is directly said in the bible. In fact, jesus said that nobody will enter heaven if they do not do the will of the father.

Then why did Paul bother writing all those Epistles to the churches in Greece and Rome telling them how to worship, organize and appoint leaders?

I don't know, I only read about 10%-15% of the bible.

[Levi Jones]

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You can't rely on your righteous works to get into heaven. Either you rely/trust jesus or believe that your righteous deeds good enough. How much good must you do to get the holy spirit in you?

"But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison." James 3:8 KJV

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8

I'm going to do this in multiple posts. 1 John 1:8 is prior to salvation. Why would John write that we are all sinners if he goes on later to write in his epistle concerning both works and perfection the following.

4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

[Levi Jones]

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So, are you saying that you have no sin? How can you repent of your evil desires? As I posted in my intro, if you even have any lust with a woman, then you've committed adultery.

I do not look at women with lust ever. I have a great wife who keeps me very satisfied.

If you desire anything in this world such as money or even food (no wonder why he fasted). You have desires that rival your desire of showing love to god by obeying the commandments, since you can't infinitely desire something.

Money, I don't care about. I make enough as an associate Pastor and the church provides me a very nice apartment. I know that it is more difficult for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to get to Heaven.

As far as food goes, it's a basic human need. God told us to eat, silly.

29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Let's quote more of revelations.

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This means that people who have not rejected (spoke evil in their hearts) about the holy spirit, aren't even immediately sent to the lake of fire when they die! It does say in the bible that there is judgment after death but it does not say that it happens immediately after death. This does NOT refer to believers.

BZZZZTTT

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

The sheep and the goats.. Matthew 25:31-46

Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Romans 2:5-6 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

[Levi Jones]

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I don't know, I only read about 10%-15% of the bible.

Clearly.