[Brother Alex]

Re: A mature discussion

I do not have the eyes of God, none of us do...

Indeed, but His will is written in a very clear language in the Holy Bible, Authorized King James Version of 1611.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

...so it would be His right and his alone to smite those he disapproves of and surely by allowing the gays to live God is showing that he is ready to allow them to change their ways and this we too should ignore the homosexuals and allow them the chance to redeem themselves.

This is what God says how we're supposed to treat filthy sodomites:

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Surely you want your children to obey you because they know it is the right thing to do? Rather than through fear?

We teach our children to fear the wrath of God, to live by His ways and follow the scriptures to the letter, for that is, according to the scriptures, the right thing to do. However, we must do so by the means of tough love, for as is written in the Book of Proverbs...

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

In which case we should allow "sinners" to change themselves, rather than forcing them to do so via threat or harm?

There is no threat in telling sinners that they will go to hell, if that's what you mean. Hell is a very REAL place and I can assure you it's not a pleasant one either. Just wait and see for yourself, I hope you'll enjoy it.

As for being a racist... I wouldnt go that far at all.

Maybe you are, maybe not. Studies here at Landover Baptist University have shown, however, that most of those that deny the existence of Christ are either racists, homersexuals, child molesters, witches/warlocks, etc.

I personally think that you fall under all of these categories. Why do you hate Jesus so much?

While i see your point about not following the law a sin i dont understand that by the law legalising murder on specific groups makes it the right thing to do.

I can't see how that would be the wrong thing to do since it is written in the Bible that WE SHOULD INDEED put certain groups of sinners to death.

Let's take terrorists for example. Wouldn't the world be a much better place if we could just nuke the entire middle east and exterminate their false religion for good? What would Jesus do?

Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

See HERE for a further list of those who should be put to death according to the scriptures.

Murder of innocents will always be wrong unless they pose a very real threat to your safety. A muslim going about their worship is not such a threat and so should be treated with respect. Offer them the chance to join your religion and the path you believe to salvation, of course, but at no point should they be under threat to do so from any person.

Following a false path will only encourage people to perform acts of terror and wickedness. Muslims are a very good example of this.

hence my personal belief is that any truth, or religion, should be tested. I also believe that if your God is real he would appreciate the fact that you tested christianity, since it is taught by men and men lie.

What do you mean by "testing"? We do have the most solid proof of the existence of God as possible. It's called the Bible. You should read it sometimes.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A mature discussion

While i see your point that you take the bible as truth and the bible says that non believers are evil, Jesus still respected the non believers and accepted them if they chose to join him.

By calling them dogs?

Mark 7

25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:

26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.

27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.

28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs.

29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.

He only helped her because she was willing to debase herself and grovel. Is that "respect" in your world?

Let me guess, you don't believe what the Bible says, but you've never actually, say, read it. That'd be like me saying I really hate Playboy Magazine's articles, when I've never read one.

[shadowx]

Re: A mature discussion

hahahahahahahahahaha you got me, Jesus is right and I will repent... Hands up on that one.

Delete this post if needed. You know what i mean.

[WWJDnow]

Re: A mature discussion

That'd be like me saying I really hate Playboy Magazine's articles, when I've never read one.

I read several Playboy issues before I was saved. There was never anything in them that interested me.

[Brother Helge]

Re: A mature discussion

hahahahahahahahahaha you got me, Jesus is right and I will repent... Hands up on that one.

Delete this post if needed. You know what i mean.

Jesus really have faith in your conversion - or why are you still here?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: A mature discussion

hahahahahahahahahaha you got me, Jesus is right and I will repent... Hands up on that one.

Delete this post if needed. You know what i mean.

I'm not sure what you're winking about, shadowx. The Bible makes it crystal clear that God does not love everybody, considers unbelievers to be below believers, and will damn all nonbelievers to eternal torture.

[SouthernSandman]

Re: A mature discussion

How do you know i am going to hell? you do not. you *believe* i am. You do not know there is a god as you describe, but you *believe* and in many ways belief is more important than knowledge. But it is also subjective.

I may be a new member of the LBC, but it's clear to me as water you are completely missing the point. There isn't the slightest shadow of a doubt you are damned to hell, and every single TRUE CHRISTIAN knows this for a fact. It's not belief, it's the plain and universal truth. As much as you may love your son, if he misbehaves, you give him a good smack and teach him a lesson. When he learns his lesson he is free from punishment. Our loving God will never send you to hell, you are sending yourself to hell by stating you don't believe in our Lord and by lacking the testimony before your community to be a part of a Bible-believing Church. Please educate yourself by reading King James' Timothy 1:7 and 1:8:

1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;