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[DaBass]

Hey. I'm afraid I'm not yet a believer, maybe you can convince me?

A few things are preventing me:

If God is omnipotent (which, by definition, he is) then why would he make Adam suffer the loss of a rib to create Eve when it was completely necessary?

Since God can do anything, why would he bother with humans at all? Why give them free choice?

Why is the Bible supremely right and the Qur'an, for example, wrong?

Also, I've read some of the posts of this forum. How can you be so blind to empirical proof and prefer instead to believe in unproven ideas?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hey

Hey. I'm afraid I'm not yet a believer, maybe you can convince me?

A few things are preventing me:

If God is omnipotent (which, by definition, he is) then why would he make Adam suffer the loss of a rib to create Eve when it was completely necessary?

Since God can do anything, why would he bother with humans at all? Why give them free choice?

Why is the Bible supremely right and the Qur'an, for example, wrong?

Also, I've read some of the posts of this forum. How can you be so blind to empirical proof and prefer instead to believe in unproven ideas?

How are any of those reasons not to believe?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hey

Hey. I'm afraid I'm not yet a believer, maybe you can convince me?

Yes, you should be afraid. Afraid of the eternity of torture you will face in the Lake of Fire.

A few things are preventing me:

If God is omnipotent (which, by definition, he is) then why would he make Adam suffer the loss of a rib to create Eve when it was completely necessary?

Since God can do anything, why would he bother with humans at all? Why give them free choice?

In both cases, because He wanted to. The potter does not answer to the clay.

Why is the Bible supremely right and the Qur'an, for example, wrong?

The Qur'an blasphemes against Jesus, claiming He was not the Son of God. Do you need more than that?

Also, I've read some of the posts of this forum. How can you be so blind to empirical proof and prefer instead to believe in unproven ideas?

. . . such as?

It sounds like you will only "believe" in God if He appears on your doorstep and says hello. That's not faith, that's knowledge.

[DaBass]

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Yes, you should be afraid. Afraid of the eternity of torture you will face in the Lake of Fire.


In both cases, because He wanted to. The potter does not answer to the clay.


The Qur'an blasphemes against Jesus, claiming He was not the Son of God. Do you need more than that?


. . . such as?

It sounds like you will only "believe" in God if He appears on your doorstep and says hello. That's not faith, that's knowledge.

"Because he wanted to" is certainly not satisfactory. What possible use could an omniscient and omnipotent being for humans? Why would he make so many easily avoidable problems?

I will believe in God when sufficient evidence is provided to convince me. I believe in the theory that has the most proof and is therefore most likely.

Posts such as those questions on how to "stump" your teacher with questions such as "If humans evolved from chimpanzees then why do chimpanzees still exist?", all of which I could have easily explained perfectly logically many years ago.

[landoverlover]

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"Because he wanted to" is certainly not satisfactory. What possible use could an omniscient and omnipotent being for humans? Why would he make so many easily avoidable problems?

I will believe in God when sufficient evidence is provided to convince me. I believe in the theory that has the most proof and is therefore most likely.

Posts such as those questions on how to "stump" your teacher with questions such as "If humans evolved from chimpanzees then why do chimpanzees still exist?", all of which I could have easily explained perfectly logically many years ago.

That's rich. 'When sufficient evidence is provided to convince me.' What, do you think this is Publishers Clearinghouse and Jesus shows up on your doorstep with a check made out to heaven? You think you can sit on your comfortable butt and a mooslim swami will make it all sensible to you?

Here's the deal: The answer is not in your so-called science or philosophy books. The answer is in your heart. You want proof? Sincerely, humbly, ask the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart. Confess your sins to Him and ask for forgiveness. Your life will then be forever changed. That's all the proof you'll ever need.

Either that, or burn in hell forever. Your call. And that, sonny, is 'free will.'

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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"Because he wanted to" is certainly not satisfactory. What possible use could an omniscient and omnipotent being for humans? Why would he make so many easily avoidable problems?

I will believe in God when sufficient evidence is provided to convince me. I believe in the theory that has the most proof and is therefore most likely.

Then I guess you have no need to be here, since this is a Christian church forum. Good day.

Enjoy your "once there was nothing, but then nothing exploded and became something" theory, with all its evidence.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Hey

Hey. I'm afraid I'm not yet a believer, maybe you can convince me?

I don't see why WE should have to convince you of anything. Ever tried picking up a KJV1611 yourself and FINDING all the answers you need to know?

Matthew 7:7-10 clearly states:

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

A few things are preventing me:

The only thing preventing you friend, is you not allowing God into your life.
It does not help that you are narrow-minded as to God and His will.

If God is omnipotent (which, by definition, he is) then why would he make Adam suffer the loss of a rib to create Eve when it was completely necessary?

Cite scripture stating Adam suffered? I have never seen any verse relating to Adam feeling pain or suffering at God creating Eve from his rib.

Since God can do anything, why would he bother with humans at all? Why give them free choice?

As God CAN do anything, then it was His choice to create mankind. Who are you to question God? I tell you something else, if God had not created man and woman, YOU certainly wouldn't be on earth at all! You should be grateful to Him, get down on your knees and confess all your sins to Him and then pray he offers you the gift of Salvation.

Why is the Bible supremely right and the Qur'an, for example, wrong?

As Rev. Rodimer already pointed out, the muslims don't accept Jesus as being God. That there proves that they lie, hence making their book a lie too.

Also, I've read some of the posts of this forum. How can you be so blind to empirical proof and prefer instead to believe in unproven ideas?

I don't see trees, humans, grass etc as being unproven ideas God had. Unless you are claiming science created all these things?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[nick_the_holy_one]

Re: Hey

Hey. I'm afraid I'm not yet a believer, maybe you can convince me?

A few things are preventing me:

If God is omnipotent (which, by definition, he is) then why would he make Adam suffer the loss of a rib to create Eve when it was completely necessary?

Since God can do anything, why would he bother with humans at all? Why give them free choice?

Why is the Bible supremely right and the Qur'an, for example, wrong?

Also, I've read some of the posts of this forum. How can you be so blind to empirical proof and prefer instead to believe in unproven ideas?

Dabass all these doubts you have are the work of the devil.

You need to repent all your sins about not believing in prayer, and give yourself to god.

Then and only then will you be saved from the fires of hell.

[DaBass]

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I never said I believe in the Big Bang Theory, assuming that is what you referenced by "there was nothing then exploded into something". In fact M-Theory helps to explain a lot of the origins of the Big Bang, if you were to simply open your mind to anything but your precious KJV1611. I'm not saying believe in anything else, but at least have a look at what other people believe, like I am doing now with you.

You're typical Christians; dodging actual answers by replying with things such as "who are you to question God?". Isn't it just so convenient that the only solid proof of God existing is when you "let God into your heart" and such, i.e. unprovable: dodging actual empirical answers.

And you did not explain away my reasoning of the questions to "stump" your teacher.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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I never said I believe in the Big Bang Theory, assuming that is what you referenced by "there was nothing then exploded into something". In fact M-Theory helps to explain a lot of the origins of the Big Bang, if you were to simply open your mind to anything but your precious KJV1611. I'm not saying believe in anything else, but at least have a look at what other people believe, like I am doing now with you.

You're typical Christians; dodging actual answers by replying with things such as "who are you to question God?". Isn't it just so convenient that the only solid proof of God existing is when you "let God into your heart" and such, i.e. unprovable: dodging actual empirical answers.

And you did not explain away my reasoning of the questions to "stump" your teacher.

Try reading God's word.

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Psalm 14:1 - KJV

God doesn't suffer fools and we don't either

[Phebe Carlyle]

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I never said I believe in the Big Bang Theory, assuming that is what you referenced by "there was nothing then exploded into something". In fact M-Theory helps to explain a lot of the origins of the Big Bang, if you were to simply open your mind to anything but your precious KJV1611. I'm not saying believe in anything else, but at least have a look at what other people believe, like I am doing now with you.

I didn't mention anything about the big bang theory. Are you on drugs?

You're typical Christians; dodging actual answers by replying with things such as "who are you to question God?". Isn't it just so convenient that the only solid proof of God existing is when you "let God into your heart" and such, i.e. unprovable: dodging actual empirical answers.

I can guarantee you that we are NOT "typical Christians" as "typical Christians" are usually fluffy bunny types who don't follow the Word of God to the letter. We sir are True Christians and live, love and learn throughout our lives as God wants us all to as per His direction and commands.

And you did not explain away my reasoning of the questions to "stump" your teacher.

What's there to explain away? You making a statement claiming:

Posts such as those questions on how to "stump" your teacher with questions such as "If humans evolved from chimpanzees then why do chimpanzees still exist?", all of which I could have easily explained perfectly logically many years ago.

Your claim you can easily explain it perfectly, is mere conjecture. As you talk of empirical proof, what experiments or observations have you personally done to support your claim?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[DaBass]

Re: Hey

I didn't mention anything about the big bang theory. Are you on drugs?



I can guarantee you that we are NOT "typical Christians" as "typical Christians" are usually fluffy bunny types who don't follow the Word of God to the letter. We sir are True Christians and live, love and learn throughout our lives as God wants us all to as per His direction and commands.



What's there to explain away? You making a statement claiming:

Your claim you can easily explain it perfectly, is mere conjecture. As you talk of empirical proof, what experiments or observations have you personally done to support your claim?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

Do tell then: what were you referring to by the idea that nothing exploded and became everything? Certainly sounds like Big Bang to me.

Empirical proof does not mean experiments I have personally conducted. It means evidence that can be tested and known to come out with the same results every time. For example, I don't have to personally boil water to know that it will boil at approximately 100 degrees centigrade.

I am perfectly willing to leave you all alone if that is your wish. If so, please delete this account. I merely wanted to see a Christian point of view and maybe get some responses to some issues I have in believing Christianity. After all, your banner does say "Unsaved welcome!".

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Do tell then: what were you referring to by the idea that nothing exploded and became everything? Certainly sounds like Big Bang to me.

Cite where I allegedly claimed anything of the sort?

Empirical proof does not mean experiments I have personally conducted. It means evidence that can be tested and known to come out with the same results every time. For example, I don't have to personally boil water to know that it will boil at approximately 100 degrees centigrade.

So you just "believe" because you were told it's true?

BTW Empirical DOES mean experiment or observation, unless you are attempting to redefine the definition to suit your own purposes.

I am perfectly willing to leave you all alone if that is your wish. If so, please delete this account. I merely wanted to see a Christian point of view and maybe get some responses to some issues I have in believing Christianity. After all, your banner does say "Unsaved welcome!".

You have the free will God gave you. The choice is yours to stay or leave.

BTW the banner says UNSAVED UNWELCOME.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hey

Do tell then: what were you referring to by the idea that nothing exploded and became everything? Certainly sounds like Big Bang to me.

Empirical proof does not mean experiments I have personally conducted. It means evidence that can be tested and known to come out with the same results every time. For example, I don't have to personally boil water to know that it will boil at approximately 100 degrees centigrade.

I am perfectly willing to leave you all alone if that is your wish. If so, please delete this account. I merely wanted to see a Christian point of view and maybe get some responses to some issues I have in believing Christianity. After all, your banner does say "Unsaved welcome!".

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