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**nick_the_holy_one** · 09-30-2010, 10:48 PM

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Hi Rob! I believe I saw the same link here as you. from ebaums world?

I Love God and Jesus too, hopefully we can be best friends and pray for each other?

Its really cool to hear all about your amazing lief and all the cool things you are into. Im looking forward to seeing you grow in Christ and Experience all the amazing things that God has to offer to his children here on earth through this wonderful forum!

**Rev. Jim Osborne** · 09-30-2010, 11:04 PM

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Welcome, Rob to God's Favorite Forum(r). South Carolina is a beautiful place. I like golfing on Hilton Head in the winter.

Tell us, what is your favorite Bible verse and why? How does it inspire you?

**BelieverInGod** · 10-01-2010, 12:47 AM

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Hello Rob,

I looked up your church and I see that it is geared towards today's youth. I hope it isn't one of those hipster churches we've been hearing about. Okay, I'll admit it's a little to "youth based" for my taste.

So what version of the Bible does your pastor use? I searched but couldn't find it.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 01:13 AM

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Perry Nobles uses different versions and always explains the Greek or Hebrew meanings from the original manuscripts when it's necessary to. I don't think there's a single one he sticks to most, and I've heard him use all of the versions I know of except The Message.

I don't really have one specific favorite passage, I suppose it's all pretty good. One that comes to mind though is Romans 12:1-2, good stuff.

"Therefore, I urge you brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer yourselves as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God- this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is- his good, pleasing and perfect will."

This one is particularly special to me because, being a student at a major university, I am sick of the norm and acceptable behavior I see (especially the way young men treat women). I despise it, and want to distance myself from much of this behavior as much as possible. "Do not conform" is pretty much a life motto for me, and what better way to do that than by offering myself as a "living sacrifice"!

**James Hutchins** · 10-01-2010, 01:14 AM

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You are smart to want to distance yourself from women as they are almost all whores.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 01:18 AM

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Respectfully, that is not what I said. I want to treat women in a Godly and respectful way (quite the opposite of what is typical around here), not isolate myself from them. I have many female friends, most of which are quite prude, as they should be.

**James Hutchins** · 10-01-2010, 01:21 AM

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Women have their place in the world. They cook, clean and have babies for Jesus. A good woman is worthy and uncommon as most females are filthy sluts.
A woman who knows her place gets my respect, a woman who talks back or misbehaves, gets my rod.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post

Hello Rob,

I looked up your church and I see that it is geared towards today's youth. I hope it isn't one of those hipster churches we've been hearing about.

Ok, let me go through line by line so that may make a more informed decision should you want to. But first, understand that I am in no way any sort of official representation for Newspring. I am just a regular attender sharing my observations, nothing more.

"Get the church involved in social justice and creation care."
Newspring is definitely not involved in social justice. I have not heard the term "creation care" before, but from a quick Google search it seems to describe a Biblical "green" viewpoint; Newspring does not adopt any such agenda. I was afraid that they might be heading this direction when they introduced their new logo (you can see it on their website), but nothing of the sort has been mentioned in my time there.

"Show clips from R-rated Coen Brothers films (e.g., No Country for Old Men, Fargo) during services."
I haven't seen a clip from any movie during a service.

"Sponsor church outings to microbreweries."
Newspring does not believe that consumption of alcohol in and of itself is sinful, but they do maintain that it is sinful under many circumstances and they certainly do not promote alcohol consumption, much less sponsor trips to any production facility.

"Put a worship pastor onstage decked in clothes from American Apparel."
I couldn't tell you where exactly out pastors shop, but it is a bit "hip" in my opinion. You can dig deeper into their website and see some videos to explore this issue yourself as I am hardly qualified to talk about it.

"Be okay with cussing."
To this day I have not heard a cuss word out of any of their mouths, nor any mention of cussing at all.

"Print bulletins only on recycled cardstock."
The sermon outlines are definitely on cardstock. Not sure if it's recycled or not. But I have never been to a church that didn't print their bulletins on cardstock, and I grew up hardcore Presbyterian. I'm not sure how this is classified as "hipster".

"Use Helvetica fonts as much as possible."
They do use these. I see how it's "hip", but I don't see how it's a problem.

"Leverage technologies like Twitter."
The head pastor does have a blog, which is well-written and has helped me very much in my walk with Christ. I don't know if he's got a Twitter or not.

**BelieverInGod** · 10-01-2010, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by ep3_lol View Post

Ok, let me go through line by line so that may make a more informed decision should you want to. But first, understand that I am in no way any sort of official representation for Newspring. I am just a regular attender sharing my observations, nothing more.

Well as a regular attender, you would have a better idea than I would from just the website.

"Get the church involved in social justice and creation care."
Newspring is definitely not involved in social justice. I have not heard the term "creation care" before, but from a quick Google search it seems to describe a Biblical "green" viewpoint; Newspring does not adopt any such agenda. I was afraid that they might be heading this direction when they introduced their new logo (you can see it on their website), but nothing of the sort has been mentioned in my time there.

Yes, that logo is what worried me.

"Show clips from R-rated Coen Brothers films (e.g., No Country for Old Men, Fargo) during services."
I haven't seen a clip from any movie during a service.

Good to hear.

"Sponsor church outings to microbreweries."
Newspring does not believe that consumption of alcohol in and of itself is sinful, but they do maintain that it is sinful under many circumstances and they certainly do not promote alcohol consumption, much less sponsor trips to any production facility.

Exactly! Jesus drank wine. However drunkeness is frowned upon in the Bible.

"Put a worship pastor onstage decked in clothes from American Apparel."
I couldn't tell you where exactly out pastors shop, but it is a bit "hip" in my opinion. You can dig deeper into their website and see some videos to explore this issue yourself as I am hardly qualified to talk about it.

See, it was the little things like this that started to worry me. Has a new pastor started at your church? Is he perhaps pushing hipster ideas as a way to move forward?

"Be okay with cussing."
To this day I have not heard a cuss word out of any of their mouths, nor any mention of cussing at all.

Good to hear.

"Print bulletins only on recycled cardstock."
The sermon outlines are definitely on cardstock. Not sure if it's recycled or not. But I have never been to a church that didn't print their bulletins on cardstock, and I grew up hardcore Presbyterian. I'm not sure how this is classified as "hipster".

No we all print on cardstock, and I think if they use standard cardstock it's probably partially recycled. I think with the hipsters it's that 100% recycled, unbleached, and where you can see little flecks of whatever on them.

"Use Helvetica fonts as much as possible."
They do use these. I see how it's "hip", but I don't see how it's a problem.

Just a warning sign. That's why I asked if you had a new pastor.

"Leverage technologies like Twitter."

The head pastor does have a blog, which is well-written and has helped me very much in my walk with Christ. I don't know if he's got a Twitter or not.

Yes he does have a Twitter account (it's on his blog). Again, just one of the warning signs.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 03:29 AM

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The church has been growing quite rapidly, and they are taking new staff and pastors fairly frequently. So I would assume that a fair amount of them are new. Also, I don't see how twitter is much different from an online forum.

I don't mean to cause trouble or "hatemonger" as Pastor Ezekiel has accused me of doing. Please explain to me how my comments are hateful and I will try to mend my ways.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 03:42 AM

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Also, am I going mad? It seems my screenname has changed.

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 10-01-2010, 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by jedimario View Post

Also, am I going mad? It seems my screenname has changed.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

**jedimario** · 10-01-2010, 03:57 AM

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Fair enough, this is y'all's playground. But I do sincerely want to know how I have offended you and do not wish to cause trouble.

Good evening

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