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  • James Dewitt
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    Re: Devon is horrified

    =Devon~;657064]
    The English Bible is translated . . . so you will not be following the Word of God to the very last period because words, phrases, meaning, and grammar are frequently altered or lost in translation. Words like 'Love' have several different meanings, certainly in the Greek, I'm not sure about Hebrew, and the English limits the meaning to one when it could be one of many 'types' of love. So how does that even work? I have Romanian friends who are Christian, they go to my church, but they read the Bible in their own language - are they not Christians just because the words, etc. might be altered due to translation?
    So you are saying that we read the incorrect Bible, that The Holy KJV161 is not the word of God?

    Should we be reading the NIV or the book of Mormom perhaps
    What about people who cannot read? Or people who have severe learning difficulties or conditions? Can they not be saved? God is ALIVE. He is a living God, and the Word of God is not only the written word, but Jesus. He can speak into hearts and souls, he can reach those who are unreachable. Love is the starting point.
    You really do not read the Bible do you?
    Leviticus 21:17-23
    Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy.Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.



    Retards shall not be admitted either, guess that leaves you out.

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  • Devon~
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    I didn't say I knew the Bible better than you. How am I to measure that? I cannot say I know it better than anyone, even people I know, let alone complete strangers on the other side of the world. I'm just asking some questions about your beliefs, as I do not understand some of them.

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  • Billy Bob Jenkins
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    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    The English Bible is translated . . . so you will not be following the Word of God to the very last period because words, phrases, meaning, and grammar are frequently altered or lost in translation. Words like 'Love' have several different meanings, certainly in the Greek, I'm not sure about Hebrew, and the English limits the meaning to one when it could be one of many 'types' of love. So how does that even work? I have Romanian friends who are Christian, they go to my church, but they read the Bible in their own language - are they not Christians just because the words, etc. might be altered due to translation?

    What about people who cannot read? Or people who have severe learning difficulties or conditions? Can they not be saved? God is ALIVE. He is a living God, and the Word of God is not only the written word, but Jesus. He can speak into hearts and souls, he can reach those who are unreachable. Love is the starting point.
    So are you conceding the point that you know your Bible better than we do?

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  • Adilene
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    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    The English Bible is translated . . . so you will not be following the Word of God to the very last period because words, phrases, meaning, and grammar are frequently altered or lost in translation. Words like 'Love' have several different meanings, certainly in the Greek, I'm not sure about Hebrew, and the English limits the meaning to one when it could be one of many 'types' of love. So how does that even work? I have Romanian friends who are Christian, they go to my church, but they read the Bible in their own language - are they not Christians just because the words, etc. might be altered due to translation?

    What about people who cannot read? Or people who have severe learning difficulties or conditions? Can they not be saved? God is ALIVE. He is a living God, and the Word of God is not only the written word, but Jesus. He can speak into hearts and souls, he can reach those who are unreachable. Love is the starting point.
    Maybe a family member could read it to them then.

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  • Devon~
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    Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
    Devon do you understand what it means to follow the word of God? I am not sure you do. God demands no less than total obedience from His flock, true? You know it is. Now that put in terms that you will understand is quite simple, follow the Word every word right down to the period. If you can find scripture that states we are allowed to pick and choose what we want to read and follow please post it. Otherwise you are a false Christian. I love fluffy Bunnie Christians, pat them on the head, give a little scratch behind their ears and send them off to HELL
    The English Bible is translated . . . so you will not be following the Word of God to the very last period because words, phrases, meaning, and grammar are frequently altered or lost in translation. Words like 'Love' have several different meanings, certainly in the Greek, I'm not sure about Hebrew, and the English limits the meaning to one when it could be one of many 'types' of love. So how does that even work? I have Romanian friends who are Christian, they go to my church, but they read the Bible in their own language - are they not Christians just because the words, etc. might be altered due to translation?

    What about people who cannot read? Or people who have severe learning difficulties or conditions? Can they not be saved? God is ALIVE. He is a living God, and the Word of God is not only the written word, but Jesus. He can speak into hearts and souls, he can reach those who are unreachable. Love is the starting point.

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  • Adilene
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    Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
    Devon do you understand what it means to follow the word of God? I am not sure you do. God demands no less than total obedience from His flock, true? You know it is. Now that put in terms that you will understand is quite simple, follow the Word every word right down to the period. If you can find scripture that states we are allowed to pick and choose what we want to read and follow please post it. Otherwise you are a false Christian. I love fluffy Bunnie Christians, pat them on the head, give a little scratch behind their ears and send them off to HELL
    Devon, It's apparent you would like to lead a Christian lifestyle, that's good. Please do it in a more nicer manner. I'm sorry if you felt personally attacked by me. Maybe it's time you take out your bible and read it, understand it! Then come back and post.

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  • James Dewitt
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    Devon do you understand what it means to follow the word of God? I am not sure you do. God demands no less than total obedience from His flock, true? You know it is. Now that put in terms that you will understand is quite simple, follow the Word every word right down to the period. If you can find scripture that states we are allowed to pick and choose what we want to read and follow please post it. Otherwise you are a false Christian. I love fluffy Bunnie Christians, pat them on the head, give a little scratch behind their ears and send them off to HELL

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  • Levi Jones
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    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    I cannot give a link to the website for safety reasons as this is a site generally for adults, sorry. And yes, I've read the KJ Bible as well as two other versions.
    Wonderful!

    Then surely you can show us where we are wrong or misquoting it.
    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    I do read the Bible. I listen to God while reading it, listen to what he wants to teach me, apply the lessons to my life. He has helped me through an awful lot, and I love him with all my heart.
    If you are reading the Bible, you are already listening to God. He is already teaching you.

    2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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  • Devon~
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    @Pastor Ezekiel - thanks for the infraction, but you did, or at least, the board shows you did, change my words in your quote. Screenprint:



    Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
    A link to this website would be start. Do you read the King James Bible?
    I cannot give a link to the website for safety reasons as this is a site generally for adults, sorry. And yes, I've read the KJ Bible as well as two other versions.

    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
    You need to sit down and instead of writing, do a little reading. See what God actually has to say to you instead listening to peoples interpretations. God is very specific in His messages.
    I do read the Bible. I listen to God while reading it, listen to what he wants to teach me, apply the lessons to my life. He has helped me through an awful lot, and I love him with all my heart.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    I hesitate to join in this conversation, since my fellow True Christians(tm) have properly rebuked this false Christian, and there's really not much more for me to add.

    Devon, here's the thing, and it has been repeated over and over again in this thread: You come here, judging us, and saying we are not really Christians. You take issues with some of the things we believe or have done. The burden is on you to show how we are wrong. Show us which parts of the Bible we have failed to comply with. We have already used Scriptural backing in our defense. Again, if you are going to claim that we are wrong, you will need to support your arguments with relevant Bible quotes.

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  • Billy Bob Jenkins
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    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    @ Billy Bob - 'I know your writing and your website aren't about God because otherwise you would have thrown it in our faces, and then refused to back it up with any evidence.'

    Proves just how much your assumptions of me are wrong then. I don't throw anything in anyone's faces. The website isn't Christian by name but it has many Christian members and a forum for Christian writing. Much of my writing is about God. What kind of evidence do you want? >.>
    I don't want to see evidence of your fake Christian website.

    I want to see evidence that you know the KJV1611 Bible better than we do.

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  • Adilene
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    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
    Devon, I think it is great to have an inquisitive mind, searching for answers. I have just finished reading this thread and you certainly are a lost soul. Time and time again, a way out of this pit of confusion has been proffered but you refuse to grasp onto the rope of knowledge.

    Devon, you need to actually read the KJV Bible. You cannot merely discuss it with little children. You know that every kid swears there are monsters under their bed and there actually rarely are. The same goes with the Word of God©. You need to sit down and instead of writing, do a little reading. See what God actually has to say to you instead listening to peoples interpretations. God is very specific in His messages.

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  • James Hutchins
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    Devon, I think it is great to have an inquisitive mind, searching for answers. I have just finished reading this thread and you certainly are a lost soul. Time and time again, a way out of this pit of confusion has been proffered but you refuse to grasp onto the rope of knowledge.

    Devon, you need to actually read the KJV Bible. You cannot merely discuss it with little children. You know that every kid swears there are monsters under their bed and there actually rarely are. The same goes with the Word of God(c). You need to sit down and instead of writing, do a little reading. See what God actually has to say to you instead listening to peoples interpretations. God is very specific in His messages.

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  • Lisa H
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    Originally posted by Devon~ View Post
    Proves just how much your assumptions of me are wrong then. I don't throw anything in anyone's faces. The website isn't Christian by name but it has many Christian members and a forum for Christian writing. Much of my writing is about God. What kind of evidence do you want? >.>
    A link to this website would be start. Do you read the King James Bible?

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  • Adilene
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    2 Peter 2:1 - 2 Peter 2:4


    1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
    2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
    3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
    4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

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