Greetings All

[nogodbutanime]

Hello All,

I have posted here a couple times already. I think i pissed some people off. So I decided to introduce myself so you can see who I really am.

My name is Matt, I am a third year university student taking a BSc in Computer Science with a second major in Pure Math. I also work as a Math Tutor.

I have talked to many people. Atheists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc. They all have different opinions.

I have some questions, and I am willing to listen to your answers as long as we can discuses them in an intelligent way. IE no calling me "unsaved trash jap wannabe" etc. Also, I do admit I have never read your Bible, so I ask you to quote the verse you are referring to in your answers. Thank You.

Question 1.
Muslims also believe their Bible (the Qur'an) to be the true word of God. Their Bible is unchanged for 100s of years. Non-altered, non-translated, the same, word-for-word, if you buy it in Saudi or in USA; in 2010 or in 1500. Now from my understand of your Bible, there is many different versions that say different things. It has also been translated into English. And from my understand, it does not claim itself to be the litter true word of God. So why is your Bible the true word of God?
Maybe it is the true word of God. Please give me a good reason to believe so, I am trying to be open.

Question 2.
Why do you think the world if flat? Do you think all NASA missions, all math and science, all the images of the globe, etc are genuine?
Why do you not believe in gravity? If you think the earth is flat and there is intelligent pulling, why does the moon not fall? How do artificial satellites work?
If you can explain these things, maybe I can accept the world is flat.

Question 3.
Why are you all so racist? You do realize white Americans are not native to this land? We came here from Europe. American is not a race, white Americans are generally a mix of different European races. Is my assumption here wrong?

Question 4.
How did Noah's ark get the animals unique to exotic places on earth? He would have had to travel across the entire world to collect animals like Kangaroos. What about fish? They live in the water anyway.

Question 5.
Why do you not believe in evolution? Why does evolution and your Bible have to be mutually exclusive? Couldn't God have still created the word and created us, but evolution still exist? For example, God created turkey but humans carefully bread them to become bigger and bigger.

Question 6.
Is the God your Bible calls God different than what every other Bible calls God? For example, the Qur'an says "Those with Faith, those who are Jews, and the Christians and Sabaeans, all who have Faith in God and the Last Day and act rightly, will have their reward with their Lord. They will feel no fear and will know no sorrow." (Surat al-Baqara; 2:62).

Question 7.
I don't know the exact details, but as a math student I have hard "The Bible says pi is 3." Can anybody explain this? Is it true? Why do people say this?
My assumption is the Bible gives dimensions of something, such that for these dimensions to be true, pi has to be exactly 3.

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I will ask more later in this thread.

I appreciate answers to any of my questions. Or just general comments.

Thank You.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Greetings All

Question 1.
Muslims also believe their Bible (the Qur'an) to be the true word of God. Their Bible is unchanged for 100s of years. Non-altered, non-translated, the same, word-for-word, if you buy it in Saudi or in USA; in 2010 or in 1500. Now from my understand of your Bible, there is many different versions that say different things. It has also been translated into English. And from my understand, it does not claim itself to be the litter true word of God. So why is your Bible the true word of God?
Maybe it is the true word of God. Please give me a good reason to believe so, I am trying to be open.

Yes there are many versions of the Bible and every single of them is a damnable, heretical text that sends its believers to Hell....except for the AV1611 KJV. Read Pastor Zeke's sermon HERE on it.

Also, the Bible says in many places that it is the true word of God.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Question 2.
Why do you think the world if flat? Do you think all NASA missions, all math and science, all the images of the globe, etc are genuine?
Why do you not believe in gravity? If you think the earth is flat and there is intelligent pulling, why does the moon not fall? How do artificial satellites work?
If you can explain these things, maybe I can accept the world is flat.

All of this has been answered in the Flat Earth threads.

Question 3.
Why are you all so racist? You do realize white Americans are not native to this land? We came here from Europe. American is not a race, white Americans are generally a mix of different European races. Is my assumption here wrong?

We are not racist. Does not Galatians 3:28 tell us that we are neither Jew nor Greek nor male nor female in Christ for we are all one? We also proudly ban any racists who come to our forum.

Question 4.
How did Noah's ark get the animals unique to exotic places on earth? He would have had to travel across the entire world to collect animals like Kangaroos. What about fish? They live in the water anyway.

Not sure why this is a question. How did he get them? Well, he went out and got them. God told him to collect two of every kind, so he did.

Question 5.
Why do you not believe in evolution? Why does evolution and your Bible have to be mutually exclusive? Couldn't God have still created the word and created us, but evolution still exist? For example, God created turkey but humans carefully bread them to become bigger and bigger.

Evolution contradicts the Bible. How can one absurd crazy theory that we evolved from mud turning into a fish turning into a monkey turning into a human be compatible with the rational truth that God's breath animated dust and formed a man, and then made a woman out of that man's rib?

Question 6.
Is the God your Bible calls God different than what every other Bible calls God? For example, the Qur'an says "Those with Faith, those who are Jews, and the Christians and Sabaeans, all who have Faith in God and the Last Day and act rightly, will have their reward with their Lord. They will feel no fear and will know no sorrow." (Surat al-Baqara; 2:62).

Yes our God is not the same God worshipped by the Muslims or Jews. If it was the same God, we would be the same religion. By definition, a religion is set apart from others by the god it worships.

Question 7.
I don't know the exact details, but as a math student I have hard "The Bible says pi is 3." Can anybody explain this? Is it true? Why do people say this?
My assumption is the Bible gives dimensions of something, such that for these dimensions to be true, pi has to be exactly 3.

Pi is indeed 3.

"And he [Hiram] made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one rim to the other it was round all about, and...a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about....And it was an hand breadth thick...." — First Kings, chapter 7, verses 23 and 26

You're a math student. You can do the division and see it comes out to 3 exactly.

[nogodbutanime]

Re: Greetings All

Wow thank you for spending time on each one of my questions.

I now have more questions about your answers:

1.
Will read those. Thank you.

2.
Same

3.
Ok that was a misconception on my end. My bad. Sorry.

4.
You answered a question "how did he do it?" with "he did it."
Maybe my question was too vague.
How did Noah collect kangaroos? Did he go to Australia? In his time, that would have taken him his whole life.
How did he get strange exotic animals unknown in his time? What about animals on different contents?

5.
You didn't answer my question. How do you explain humans breeding turkeys to become bigger and bigger? Humans also bread other animals, like house cats and dogs. Is this not evolution?

6.
If its not the same God as Jews and Muslims, is it the same God as other Christianities?

7.
Ahh thank you. I thought it must be something like this.
So according to the Bible, Pi == 3; or more precisely, the ratio between the circumference and diameter of a circle is exactly 3. (There are other definitions of Pi)
Archimedes, using this definition of Pi proved Pi is between 3+10/71 and 3+1/7. That range does not include 3. Is his proof wrong?

http://itech.fgcu.edu/faculty/clindsey/mhf4404/archimedes/archimedes.html

Why is it wrong? I see no mistake. I can also approximate Pi myself and get a range that does not include 3.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Greetings All

Hello All,

I have posted here a couple times already. I think i pissed some people off. So I decided to introduce myself so you can see who I really am.

My name is Matt, I am a third year university student taking a BSc in Computer Science with a second major in Pure Math. I also work as a Math Tutor.

I have talked to many people. Atheists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc. They all have different opinions.

I have some questions, I will ask more later in this thread.

I appreciate answers to any of my questions. Or just general comments.

Thank You.

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[Bible Student]

Re: Greetings All

Hello All,

I have posted here a couple times already. I think i pissed some people off. So I decided to introduce myself so you can see who I really am.

My name is Matt, I am a third year university student taking a BSc in Computer Science with a second major in Pure Math. I also work as a Math Tutor.

I have talked to many people. Atheists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc. They all have different opinions.

I have some questions, and I am willing to listen to your answers as long as we can discuses them in an intelligent way. IE no calling me "unsaved trash jap wannabe" etc. Also, I do admit I have never read your Bible, so I ask you to quote the verse you are referring to in your answers. Thank You.

Question 1.
Muslims also believe their Bible (the Qur'an) to be the true word of God. Their Bible is unchanged for 100s of years. Non-altered, non-translated, the same, word-for-word, if you buy it in Saudi or in USA; in 2010 or in 1500.

That is a common misconception to all but Qur’an scholars. There are many, many versions dating back to its beginning. In fact nobody knows what the originals looked like.

And it has been translated into almost every language on earth.

[nogodbutanime]

Re: Greetings All

That is a common misconception to all but Qur’an scholars. There are many, many versions dating back to its beginning. In fact nobody knows what the originals looked like.

And it has been translated into almost every language on earth.

Interesting claim. But I cannot find anything about this on my research? Can you please quote your sources?

Translations of the Qur'an are not the Quran. The Qur'an is in Arabic.

Is there a non-translated version of your Bible? How do you know the true word of God translates well? How do you know the people who translated it didn't make any mistakes?

[Nobar King]

Re: Greetings All

Translations of the Qur'an are not the Quran. The Qur'an is in Arabic.

Is there a non-translated version of your Bible? How do you know the true word of God translates well? How do you know the people who translated it didn't make any mistakes?

I'd like to know what kind of holy book the God of Anime has for you to refer to for your spiritual guidance.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Greetings All

How do you know the true word of God translates well? How do you know the people who translated it didn't make any mistakes?

Please read the following.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
(Jesus authenticated the Bible )

God does not make mistakes, therefore the Bible is perfect.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Greetings All

Interesting claim. But I cannot find anything about this on my research? Can you please quote your sources?

Translations of the Qur'an are not the Quran. The Qur'an is in Arabic.

What do you think about the hadiths?

Is there a non-translated version of your Bible? How do you know the true word of God translates well? How do you know the people who translated it didn't make any mistakes?

Because God was guiding them. Read this.

[Bible Student]

Re: Greetings All

Interesting claim. But I cannot find anything about this on my research? Can you please quote your sources?

Translations of the Qur'an are not the Quran. The Qur'an is in Arabic.

Is there a non-translated version of your Bible? How do you know the true word of God translates well? How do you know the people who translated it didn't make any mistakes?

Google is your friend. Look for Qur'an higher criticism. A two second search gives: http://www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/b00moslemorigin.php I am not here to do your homework. As to multiple translations, you can find them easily on the Internet. We have an English translation in our library and I have one on my own bookshelves.