[ExGay Alex]

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Hooray! I found the Lord's prayer in Romanian!!

Tatăl nostru, vrei sa pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei,
Nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei.
Chipul tau si dragostea din tei,
Mi-amintesc de ochii tai.

Te sun, sa-ti spun, ce simt acum,
Alo, iubirea mea, sunt eu, fericirea.
Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso,
Ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
Dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.
În numele lui Isus Hristos.
Amen

I will add this to my prayers in honor of our new Gypsy guest!

[Liam the ex-drunk]

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Buna Ziua! Welcome to the forum. I have been to Romania where I tried to bring the love of Jesus to young Romanian boys. A real homosexual country, truly. I spent most of the time slapping young hands that seemed always to be reaching for my beltbuckle.

How are you managing the toilets in Belgium? Was it hard getting used to having one that flushes? And right in the house, too!

I found this picture of a Romanian priest (left) and nun (right). Are they your grandfather and your grandmother?



I would love to learn more about this "religion." Do they have the 10 commandments? If so, how do they manage "thou shalt not steal"? So many of you gypsies steal. I hope you will learn not to do so.

Our church is a welcoming church. We want to know more about you

I wonder if Public transport has improved in Romania since your visit.

[Bible Student]

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Hooray! I found the Lord's prayer in Romanian!!

Tatăl nostru, vrei sa pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei,
Nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei.
Chipul tau si dragostea din tei,
Mi-amintesc de ochii tai.

Te sun, sa-ti spun, ce simt acum,
Alo, iubirea mea, sunt eu, fericirea.
Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso,
Ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
Dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.
În numele lui Isus Hristos.
Amen

I will add this to my prayers in honor of our new Gypsy guest!

With all this knowledge you've acquired you may end up being our new resident expert on things Romanian. I've certainly learned a lot I did not know before reading your posts on the subject.

Thank you Brother Alex.

[speaknow]

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I wonder if Public transport has improved in Romania since your visit.

Seems they have stolen a few new cars, but what a pity they don't know how to drive.

[andypal]

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Free will would still exist Today we have laws against murder and rape. This doesn't mean that people can't do those things it just means that doing such things has consequences. Personal freedom would be quite limited in a theocracy, however. Some people might think this is a bad thing but I think the price of personal freedom is too high. Afterall, the time you spend being a mortal human pales in comparison with the time you will in Hell if you don't live your life as a True Christian™.

So who would be the one to say you're not a real Christian. God is the only one who can judge a human being, I mean not the judge from lawcourt, but the Judgement so if in this life we would be in a theocracy. who can be the one to tell who is wrong ?

The theocracy would be against the American founders' spirit, isn't it?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Source :

That's a thing bothering me, you said they must be killed ! It's really too radical don't you think? I mean first of all who would kill these people ? Because if he killed someone, he couldn't be a True Christian anymore!


Deuteronomy 5:17

John 8:1-11

[andypal]

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Buna Ziua! Welcome to the forum. I have been to Romania where I tried to bring the love of Jesus to young Romanian boys. A real homosexual country, truly. I spent most of the time slapping young hands that seemed always to be reaching for my beltbuckle.

How are you managing the toilets in Belgium? Was it hard getting used to having one that flushes? And right in the house, too!

I found this picture of a Romanian priest (left) and nun (right). Are they your grandfather and your grandmother?



I would love to learn more about this "religion." Do they have the 10 commandments? If so, how do they manage "thou shalt not steal"? So many of you gypsies steal. I hope you will learn not to do so.

Our church is a welcoming church. We want to know more about you

Why do you have to be insulting ? I came here peacefully and your welcome is my grandparents are gay. Don't you understand, that my grandfather (=man) was married to my grandmother (=woman) . Isn't that correct in English ?

Second thing, I AM NOT A GIPSY ! Is that clear ?

Third one, there are toilets in romania that flushes.

The Eastern Orthodox Church is the roman church of the oriental roman empire who splitted up with the catholics in 1054. They follow the 7 first councils only. The orthodox people has the same bible as you and so they have also the ten commandements.

And please stop posting dumb pictures about romania. It sure ain't the most modern place in the world but is it a resaon to make fun of it ?

And Alex can you tell me where have you been in romania ?

[andypal]

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Hooray! I found the Lord's prayer in Romanian!!

Tatăl nostru, vrei sa pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei,
Nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei.
Chipul tau si dragostea din tei,
Mi-amintesc de ochii tai.

Te sun, sa-ti spun, ce simt acum,
Alo, iubirea mea, sunt eu, fericirea.
Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso,
Ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
Dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.
În numele lui Isus Hristos.
Amen

I will add this to my prayers in honor of our new Gypsy guest!

This is just the two first words of the Lord's Prayer with the lyrics of Ozone congrats. This is the real version for who is intersted :

"Tatal nostru
Care esti in ceruri
Sfinteasca-se numele Tau
Vie imparatia Ta
Faca-se voia Ta
Precum in cer asa si pre Pamant
Painea noastra cea de toate zilele
Da-ne-o noua astazi
Si ne iarta noua gresalele noastre
Precum si noi iertam gresitilor nostri
Si nu ne duce pre noi in ispita
Ci ne izbaveste de cel rau
Ca a Ta este imparatia
Puterea si Slava
In numele Tatalui
Al Fiului
Al Sfantului Duh
Amin."

[Johannes Kirkeholm]

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So who would be the one to say you're not a real Christian. God is the only one who can judge a human being, I mean not the judge from lawcourt, but the Judgement so if in this life we would be in a theocracy. who can be the one to tell who is wrong ?

Yes, God is the one who judges us. But sometimes He want us to execute His Will:

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman

Regarding your question of 'who can be the one to tell who is wrong?' it wouldn't be a person but the Bible. The Bible states what's wrong and right and in a theocracy people would follow the Bible and thereby God.

The theocracy would be against the American founders' spirit, isn't it?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This bold part of the quote actually proves that it is unconstitutional to prohibit True Christians™ from killing those who God commands to be killed. Thank you for showing it to me I will use it in my debates with others

That's a thing bothering me, you said they must be killed ! It's really too radical don't you think? I mean first of all who would kill these people ? Because if he killed someone, he couldn't be a True Christian anymore!


Deuteronomy 5:17

John 8:1-11

I admit that some of God's ideas might seem a bit radical if your faith is a litlle weak but it is not up to us humans to judge His decisions.

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

There are exceptions to Deuteronomy 5:17. As you can see from Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27 and 2 Chronicles 15:13 God sometimes commands us to kill. If these Bible Verses don't demonstrate exceptions to Deuteronomy 5:17 then the Bible would contain a contradiction and we both know that God is too smart to contradict himself

If He didn't really mean that we should do as He asks of us in Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27 and 2 Chronicles 15:13 then He would have removed those parts of the Bible. But since these Verses are in the Bible then they must be the Words of God

[andypal]

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Yes, God is the one who judges us. But sometimes He want us to execute His Will:

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman

Regarding your question of 'who can be the one to tell who is wrong?' it wouldn't be a person but the Bible. The Bible states what's wrong and right and in a theocracy people would follow the Bible and thereby God.



This bold part of the quote actually proves that it is unconstitutional to prohibit True Christians™ from killing those who God commands to be killed. Thank you for showing it to me I will use it in my debates with others



I admit that some of God's ideas might seem a bit radical if your faith is a litlle weak but it is not up to us humans to judge His decisions.

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

There are exceptions to Deuteronomy 5:17. As you can see from Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27 and 2 Chronicles 15:13 God sometimes commands us to kill. If these Bible Verses don't demonstrate exceptions to Deuteronomy 5:17 then the Bible would contain a contradiction and we both know that God is too smart to contradict himself

If He didn't really mean that we should do as He asks of us in Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 20:27 and 2 Chronicles 15:13 then He would have removed those parts of the Bible. But since these Verses are in the Bible then they must be the Words of God

First of all, I thank you to let me debate with you without any cliche about my background and for having an honest debate with you :-)

I want to be more precise! What I said didn't mean that i accept people killing,raping, stealing,... These people should be punished severly but unfotunately this will be an eternal problem. The man kind, in my opinion is weak and too easily corrupted and it's an entire permanent effort to be good !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

This shows well that even if someone seems good, you will always find a limit where the amount of effort of being good defeats and the person will become evil. I believe that the situation affects people, so if someone is evil, there will be always a way to help him finding the good path and I know that the baptist help people. So before killing everyone, at least you should try to help them.

Also I would like to warn you,don't misuse the name of God, don't say in the name of God for actions that aren't a bit like the extreme muslims who convince people to bomb themselves in the name of God.

[URL="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Dt5.11" Deuteronomy 5:11[/URL]

And I'm wondering also, what is wrong withe the other religions coming from Abraham : Judaism, Islam and the other forms of Christianism. They all believe in the same God as you.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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Also I would like to warn you,don't misuse the name of God, don't say in the name of God for actions that aren't a bit like the extreme muslims who convince people to bomb themselves in the name of God.

Don't worry. No need for unsaved trash such as yourself giving warnings to anyone. Worry about your own soul first.

We True Christians know all about what God approves of and doesn't.

A little humility on your part wouldn't go amiss. I'm sure you're here to be Saved so that's the important issue here. If God can offer Salvation to a Scotsman and an Irishman, he can offer it to a Transylvanian Tinker too.