[Objective One]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

Would you care to clarify your reasoning? I know everyone has opinions, they also have their own answers. Why has everyone addressed the points that I have made, which I ignored, but I've addressed not even a single one of yours? It's alright to admit that I am wrong.

Wow, whoever modified this post, way to be mature about things.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

I don't need scriptures to back up my point. I gave you the meaning of the scriptures that you quoted because you're taking them out of context and using them to justify your cause.

So scripture doesn't mean what it says, it means what an atheist thinks it says. Why would we believe someone who hasn't even read the book?

I read your sermon and you yet again contradict yourself what you teach. You are guilty of every sin that you teach, so are you not liable to judgement as well?

I've seen no contradiction in this church. Only people who hate God and the Bible see any contradiction.

What you preach is simply your interpretation of what the Bible says. Every person has their own interpretation to what it states, so if you want to get technical, they have their own personal religion because their their beliefs differ from everyone elses.

Really, please never work on anything technical, you'll blow yourself up if you "interpret" the instructions. But then again, that will just be a taste of what you get for "interpreting" the Bible

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You say not to judge people on their skin, but only if they're saved, or unsaved to know that they are evil or not. I have seen you and many of your members openly judge others because of their race, skin, and sexual orientation.

Well you can't be gay and saved, that's just impossible. As for race, please back up your comment as racism is not acceptable on this board. That being said, spics are all die-hard catholics so are hell bound and most Negro's don't want to give up their sinning in order to become True Christian, that's not racism, that's fact.


I'm sorry, but I need to inject an intelligent ass into the conversation

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

You sound a little butthurt that atheism did better on a poll than you. Do you know why there were more non Christian questions? Christianity is not the largest religion in the world.

So, what you are saying is, you know less about religion than we Christians.

Christianity IS the largest religion in the world.

Do you want to know why atheists scored better? We look at things with open minds and use our minds (logic, reasoning, and science).

That has nothing whatsoever to do with knowing facts about false religions. You do not know what Ramadan is because you apply science. You know because you consider Islamofascism "just another religion" and look at different religions to help you justify abandoning God.

You try to justify your ignorance by justifying your close mindedness and it's funny. Yes, I do believe that, and a lot of people agree. Quantum physics proves that something can come from nothing.

What does quantum physics have to do with how people did on a quiz about false religions?

Have you ever heard of the paragraph break? Try adding some so we know when you leave off one subject and begin another.

Niether of us can prove exactly how we came into existence, how the world was made, what created the universe.

You just said quantum physics can "prove" it. With hypotheses that haven't even become theories, much less laws, yet.

Throwing out a big word doesn't mean you know what you're talking about, kid.

I hate that you're so quick to generalize all of us atheists. I'm an individual, so treat me like one. I have been listening with an open mind the entire time and simply replied my opinions on what they stated.

Actually, as I've pointed out before, you have attacked and insulted us from your first post, calling us names and claiming we are stupid for not agreeing with your closed-minded disbelief. You are not open-minded at all.

You believe the Earth is 6,000 years old when I've clearly shown you that it's not.

No you haven't. Saying it isn't proving it. Where is your proof?

Why should I waste more time posting evidence that will fall upon deaf ears?

To show that you know what you're talking about. Especially since you just said that you "proved" something, but posted no evidence.

No, they are merely natural disasters, as I've stated before. Point to me where there rained fire and brimstone, where frogs rained from the skies, where GOD's angels themselvs came down and smited cities.

You asked for an example of God smiting a city, I gave you one. Quit raising the bar or changing the question.

[quote]Give me some hard facts, like I have given you time and time again. [quote]
You haven't given any hard facts. I've asked you for them, as has everyone else here.

I never insulted you for not sharing my belief. I insult you because you're ignorant and are close minded.

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Either way, you're a jackass.

You are an uninvited and unwelcome guest, who joined a Christian church's forum to attack and insult Christians.

Tell me, why don't you go down to your Mommy and Daddy's church and insult the people there? Is it because you're a pathetic little coward who only has the testicular fortitude to speak up when you THINK you are anonymous and when you THINK nobody is tracking your IP address?

My question is: GOD has and always will be, GOD knows all information and made everything from nothing, He also me nothing before something, so where does he get His ideas? He should have never had an idea because he already knows everything and what point into forever can something be put into it? What I mean by that last question is, at what point can GOD place something into time that it is forever? It would make sense if things just happened, but if soemthing was planning to make everything since forever ago, how can it do this?

That doesn't even make sense. I can't answer a question that doesn't make sense.

Who are you to judge me? Only your GOD has the right to do that I thought?

You thought wrong. Christians are commanded to judge with righteous judgment.

Your following here is sickening and it blows my mind that people like this exist in the beautiful country I live in. If I ever see one of you beating your wives I will personally give you the beating you deserve.

That's nice, Internet Tough Guy.

I've pointed out many contradictions in your Bible, your beliefs, and the insanity of this community. You're a disgrace to the Christian name and belief.

By following the Bible as God wrote it, we disgrace Christianity? That makes no sense at all.

Where does it say that you have the right to judge someone on whether they will be sent to eternal damnation or not? GOD is the only one that can do the final judgement.

And we provide the warning of the consequences of their actions.

No human can decide who will or will not be cast into Hell by God. However, it's not difficult to see that you will, since you are an unbeliever, and listed specifically in the Bible as one whom God will torture for all eternity in His Lake of Fire.

[Teach me]

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Post the Scripture that backs up your point.

But first, read my sermon on the subject of Judging others HERE.

I don't need scriptures to back up my point. I gave you the meaning of the scriptures that you quoted because you're taking them out of context and using them to justify your cause. I read your sermon and you yet again contradict yourself what you teach. You are guilty of every sin that you teach, so are you not liable to judgement as well? What you preach is simply your interpretation of what the Bible says. Every person has their own interpretation to what it states, so if you want to get technical, they have their own personal religion because their their beliefs differ from everyone elses. You say not to judge people on their skin, but only if they're saved, or unsaved to know that they are evil or not. I have seen you and many of your members openly judge others because of their race, skin, and sexual orientation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Where does it say that you have the right to judge someone on whether they will be sent to eternal damnation or not? GOD is the only one that can do the final judgement. According to Leviticus, you can only judge your neighbour through religious views. Not to judge them because of anything else. According to John, he pretty such states the same thing. Yet, I see you openly accept and encourage racism, not for their religious views. Also, Corinthians agrees with this view as well. He is talking about judging people without GOD (myself). He's stating that i's alright to judge atheists because we judge you as well, then it says to rid yourself of that wicked person. We're wicked because we think for ourselves and do not accept tyour Lord? What happened to free will? I thought we were given the right to choose our beliefs, but we are judged for it, and even condemned to death. Where is the logic in that contradiction? You can keep quoting verses from the bible and I can keep pointing out contradictions just as long. Also, Tim states that you should tell others about the Lord and Hell. You place fear unto others to join your beliefs. You don't think it's wrong to scare people into joining you, but not to show them that GOD is the answer, and discuss it like a civil being. Instead, you threaten them with eternal damnation and stating how much of a better person you are than them. Were you not loved enough when you were a child, or given enough attention? Do you feel the need to prove that you are better than everyone else, because deep down you know that you're not?

Post the Scripture that backs up your point.

But first, read my sermon on the subject of Judging others HERE.

[Teach me]

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If you were even remotely familiar with the holy Bible, then you would know that God commands those of us who are Saved® to judge and rebuke unsaved scum such as yourself.

Where does it say that you have the right to judge someone on whether they will be sent to eternal damnation or not? GOD is the only one that can do the final judgement. According to Leviticus, you can only judge your neighbour through religious views. Not to judge them because of anything else. According to John, he pretty such states the same thing. Yet, I see you openly accept and encourage racism, not for their religious views. Also, Corinthians agrees with this view as well. He is talking about judging people without GOD (myself). He's stating that i's alright to judge atheists because we judge you as well, then it says to rid yourself of that wicked person. We're wicked because we think for ourselves and do not accept tyour Lord? What happened to free will? I thought we were given the right to choose our beliefs, but we are judged for it, and even condemned to death. Where is the logic in that contradiction? You can keep quoting verses from the bible and I can keep pointing out contradictions just as long. Also, Tim states that you should tell others about the Lord and Hell. You place fear unto others to join your beliefs. You don't think it's wrong to scare people into joining you, but not to show them that GOD is the answer, and discuss it like a civil being. Instead, you threaten them with eternal damnation and stating how much of a better person you are than them. Were you not loved enough when you were a child, or given enough attention? Do you feel the need to prove that you are better than everyone else, because deep down you know that you're not?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

Who are you to judge me? Only your GOD has the right to do that I thought?

If you were even remotely familiar with the holy Bible, then you would know that God commands those of us who are Saved(r) to judge and rebuke unsaved scum such as yourself.

Leviticus 19:15
In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

[Teach me]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

An opinion at some point has to be based of a few things, either fact or theory. You have failed to prove that God does not exist, therefore your lame opinion stinks.

Wrong? How can I possible be wrong, I have Jesus on my side. You have failed to even begin to comprehend any thing that my Brothers and Sisters have told you. You seem to lack the most basic of common sense.
In other words you don't have enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole when the rat is staring at you.

I agree that an opinion has to be based off of things at some point, but it is still your interpretation of those things, it is still your answer. You have failed to prove to me that GOD does exist, so therefore your opinion stinks. See? That's not so hard to say is it. No, I have comprehended everything you have told me. You just fail to see that. If I didn't comprehend what they are saying, then how is there a discussion of anything going on?

Correcting you on what, friend? On your inability to spell either "atheists" or "humorous" correctly?

On your incorrect capitalization of "atheist", since as so many atheists claim, "atheism is a religion like 'not collecting stamps' is a hobby"?

Or correcting you on the ridiculous survey showing that atheists know more about false religions than Christians? Did you bother to read the survey questions? Only about 25% of them had anything to do with God or the Bible or Jesus. Most were about Buddhism or Islamofascism or Judaism or Hinduism, or some other form of demon-worship. Christians don't study such things, because they are not edifying and do not lead us to God.

Let me guess: You think that everything was created from nothing, by nothing.

Once upon a time, there was nothing. Then, nothing exploded and became something. And it turned into dinosaurs.

Yes, that's logical.

Ever heard of causation in high school? For something to happen, a cause is required. What caused the universe if not God? Nothing?


Yes, I've seen your open mind.

Really?

Most of you atheists come in and try to post links to pornography, or tell us how ignorant we are. But at least you have an open mind, and you wouldn't do that.

Looks like I spoke too soon.


There's that open mind and respect again, attacking God with your atheist lies . . . and you don't even know your own lies. Atheists believe the earth is about 4 BILLION years old.


What, like New Orleans/Katrina? Nah, that's not a sign, right?



Hey, it's that open-minded respect of yours again.


You've been asked many times to put forth your "proof" that God doesn't exist. We're waiting.

You came here, buddy. You joined a Christian church's discussion forum and demanded that we convince you that all your existing preconceived high-school notions are wrong. But you won't say why you believe such silly things; you just insult us for not sharing your disbelief.

Exactly. That's why God created humans, to worship Him. And that is the reward in Heaven, to worship and praise Him eternally for blessing us by existing. You ARE learning!

Congratulations, you found some typos. I've noticed time and time again you pick out the easier/smaller things to target to seem more justified in your reasoning. Just because I spelled a word wrong doesn't make my point invalid. Many of your fellow church members have spelled multiple words wrong. Why don't you try educating them on the English language and educate me on the word of your Lord by proving that he exists. You sound a little butthurt that atheism did better on a poll than you. Do you know why there were more non Christian questions? Christianity is not the largest religion in the world. Do you want to know why atheists scored better? We look at things with open minds and use our minds (logic, reasoning, and science). You try to justify your ignorance by justifying your close mindedness and it's funny. Yes, I do believe that, and a lot of people agree. Quantum physics proves that something can come from nothing. Let's face the facts here. Niether of us can prove exactly how we came into existence, how the world was made, what created the universe. All we know is that we don't know and what will you do with this knowledge? I live my life to the fullest everyday, treating everyone with respect, and kind to others. I don't know what happens when I die and I don't care. I know I lived a full life and I'm a happy person. I know that I didn't live my life out of fear towards burning eternally in Hell, but that I thought for myself, and enjoyed life. I hate that you're so quick to generalize all of us atheists. I'm an individual, so treat me like one. I have been listening with an open mind the entire time and simply replied my opinions on what they stated. You guys started the argument when I simply asked a question without wanting to start an argument. You believe the Earth is 6,000 years old when I've clearly shown you that it's not. That alone is enough to disprove your GOD and his Bible. Why should I waste more time posting evidence that will fall upon deaf ears? No, they are merely natural disasters, as I've stated before. Point to me where there rained fire and brimstone, where frogs rained from the skies, where GOD's angels themselvs came down and smited cities. You cannot show me any of this, but only what a book written by a man says. I've asked you to put forth your proof that GOD exists and have received nothing, but childish examples. Give me some hard facts, like I have given you time and time again. I never insulted you for not sharing my belief. I insult you because you're ignorant and are close minded. You say that is our purpose to life, but what is the purpose to life if HE already knows what is going to happen? I'm going to ask you some questions I hope you will be able to answer. I'll try my best to elaborate, but I can't promise anything.
My question is: GOD has and always will be, GOD knows all information and made everything from nothing, He also me nothing before something, so where does he get His ideas? He should have never had an idea because he already knows everything and what point into forever can something be put into it? What I mean by that last question is, at what point can GOD place something into time that it is forever? It would make sense if things just happened, but if soemthing was planning to make everything since forever ago, how can it do this?

I'll admit that you're wrong.

Have you even read the Bible, nancy?

No, I've read most of it, though. I've seen the other half quoted on here. Who are you to judge me? Only your GOD has the right to do that I thought? Your following here is sickening and it blows my mind that people like this exist in the beautiful country I live in. If I ever see one of you beating your wives I will personally give you the beating you deserve. You speak so highly over the internet, but what happens when this same situation is placed into a real life situation? I've pointed out many contradictions in your Bible, your beliefs, and the insanity of this community. You're a disgrace to the Christian name and belief.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

It's alright to admit that I am wrong.

I'll admit that you're wrong.

Have you even read the Bible, nancy?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

You live your life by fear and preaching fear unto others, by trying to tell everyone they will burn in Hell for eternity. Looking in the mirror proves nothing, but that I'm looking in a mirror at a human animal. I think it's quite humerous that Athiests know more about religion than religious people themselves. Don't try correcting me on that either.

Correcting you on what, friend? On your inability to spell either "atheists" or "humorous" correctly?

On your incorrect capitalization of "atheist", since as so many atheists claim, "atheism is a religion like 'not collecting stamps' is a hobby"?

Or correcting you on the ridiculous survey showing that atheists know more about false religions than Christians? Did you bother to read the survey questions? Only about 25% of them had anything to do with God or the Bible or Jesus. Most were about Buddhism or Islamofascism or Judaism or Hinduism, or some other form of demon-worship. Christians don't study such things, because they are not edifying and do not lead us to God.

I was meaning that he may be a little crazy and should seek mental help. Why does there have to be a person, or being that created the sky/man? I'm saying this because you used who, as if it could ONLY be created by a being.

Let me guess: You think that everything was created from nothing, by nothing.

Once upon a time, there was nothing. Then, nothing exploded and became something. And it turned into dinosaurs.

Yes, that's logical.

Ever heard of causation in high school? For something to happen, a cause is required. What caused the universe if not God? Nothing?

If you really want me to post my argument I will, but I'm sure none of you will read it, or take it with an open mind. As I, however WILL take anything you say (and have said) to me with an open mind.

Yes, I've seen your open mind.

I'm waiting here with an open mind, unlike any of you here. I've read many threads on these forums and none of you read what we "non-believers" have to say, or take it with an open mind. Yet, when you address things towards us we take them with an open mind.

Really?

Most of you atheists come in and try to post links to pornography, or tell us how ignorant we are. But at least you have an open mind, and you wouldn't do that.

Time and time again this community disappoints me with your ignorance. I'm 19 years of age and I didn't even graduate high-school. Yet, I have more sense than most of you.

Looks like I spoke too soon.

You don't really think things could happen by chance do you? Over millions of years that this planet has been around it has had the time to form and adapt the beautiful place you see today. It didn't happen over 6 days as you would like to believe because there are new species added everyday.

There's that open mind and respect again, attacking God with your atheist lies . . . and you don't even know your own lies. Atheists believe the earth is about 4 BILLION years old.

Why would he not show some sort of sign like he did in the Old Testament by smiting many cities?

What, like New Orleans/Katrina? Nah, that's not a sign, right?

The logic behind your thinking is almost astonishing to me that you could be so ignorant. I guess it's mainly because being blind to so many things and close-minded for your entire life could do so. It makes me laugh that you are so close-minded, because you would think such devoted Christians would merely laugh at such weak attempts disnouncing their faith, but you're too close-minded to even listen, and run away at the chance of conflict because cannot even answer a simple question (such as answering why GOD exists.).

Hey, it's that open-minded respect of yours again.

I've never received a straight forward answer giving any sort of proof

You've been asked many times to put forth your "proof" that God doesn't exist. We're waiting.

You came here, buddy. You joined a Christian church's discussion forum and demanded that we convince you that all your existing preconceived high-school notions are wrong. But you won't say why you believe such silly things; you just insult us for not sharing your disbelief.

But I thought everyone had a purpose to life to worship GOD?

Exactly. That's why God created humans, to worship Him. And that is the reward in Heaven, to worship and praise Him eternally for blessing us by existing. You ARE learning!

[James Dewitt]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

Would you care to clarify your reasoning? I know everyone has opinions, they also have their own answers. Why has no one addressed the points that I have made, but I've addressed every single one of yours? It's alright to admit that you're wrong.

An opinion at some point has to be based of a few things, either fact or theory. You have failed to prove that God does not exist, therefore your lame opinion stinks.

Wrong? How can I possible be wrong, I have Jesus on my side. You have failed to even begin to comprehend any thing that my Brothers and Sisters have told you. You seem to lack the most basic of common sense.
In other words you don't have enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole when the rat is staring at you.

[Teach me]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

My father had a saying, I think at this point it may just apply
" Opinions are much like a persons rectum, we all have them, unfortunately yours stinks"

Would you care to clarify your reasoning? I know everyone has opinions, they also have their own answers. Why has everyone addressed the points that I have made, which I ignored, but I've addressed not even a single one of yours? It's alright to admit that I am wrong.

[James Dewitt]

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How old are you? I'm 19 years old and it is astonishing that I have more sense than adults with degrees.

My father had a saying, I think at this point it may just apply
" Opinions are much like a persons rectum, we all have them, unfortunately yours stinks"

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

[Teach me]

Re: I'm here for one reason:

I love your maturity. You question my maturity when being "proven wrong", but when I prove every point you tried to make invalid, you run away, and act like a child by using these emotes. How old are you? I'm 19 years old and it is astonishing that I have more sense than adults with degrees.