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  • LoverOfWhales
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    • Feb 2011
    • 11

    #31
    Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

    Originally posted by loveforchrist View Post
    Just stop listening to music and tell us about yourself. This is the introduction forum.
    So now the bible also tells us we can't be ourselfs and enjoy the pleasure of listening to our favorite bands? Doesn't seem like quite a loving god to me if he wrote that.

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    • Brother Enoch
      The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2008
      • 4392

      #32
      Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

      Originally posted by CultusBelena View Post
      Not exactly, I haven't been given a black and white answer as if the people listening to these kinds of musics is going to damn them to hell, and where the line is drawn.
      Yes, they are going to Hell. You have your answer.

      If you enjoy something unGodly then you go to Hell. That is where the line is drawn.

      Most music is fine, as long as it does not advocate ANYTHING that is unGodly. It really couldn't be simpler.

      Anything that advocates violence without a Godly reason, anything that advocates 'free love' without marriage in the eyes of God, anything that advocates rebellion against parents or other authority figures, anything that advocates drunkenness or drug use, anything that advocates spirituality that does not include the KJV, anything that celebrates ethnic origins that do not include Christianity, and, of course, anything German.

      So, if you're listening to anything other than that, with Jesus in your heart, you should be fine.

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      • AgnosticFool
        Unsaved trash
        Under Investigation
        • Feb 2011
        • 11

        #33
        Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

        This is pretty off topic from the current situation but is the song Where's my sex by weezer ok to listen to? or is that a sin?
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • LoverOfWhales
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          • Feb 2011
          • 11

          #34
          Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

          Originally posted by Brother Enoch View Post
          Yes, they are going to Hell. You have your answer.

          If you enjoy something unGodly then you go to Hell. That is where the line is drawn.

          Most music is fine, as long as it does not advocate ANYTHING that is unGodly. It really couldn't be simpler.

          Anything that advocates violence without a Godly reason, anything that advocates 'free love' without marriage in the eyes of God, anything that advocates rebellion against parents or other authority figures, anything that advocates drunkenness or drug use, anything that advocates spirituality that does not include the KJV, anything that celebrates ethnic origins that do not include Christianity, and, of course, anything German.

          So, if you're listening to anything other than that, with Jesus in your heart, you should be fine.
          But I thought everyone was created in the image of God? So does that not mean that the other ethnic origins and germans are also in the image of god? So is god not then condemned to hell himself? Does that mean that EVERYONE is a sinner? You have plenty of holes in your theory of Christianity.

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          • loveforchrist
            Forum Member
            Forum Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 138

            #35
            Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

            Originally posted by LoverOfWhales View Post
            But I thought everyone was created in the image of God? So does that not mean that the other ethnic origins and germans are also in the image of god? So is god not then condemned to hell himself? Does that mean that EVERYONE is a sinner? You have plenty of holes in your theory of Christianity.
            Stop butting into things and trying to get us off topic. That last post by Brother Enoch was the most on topic this thread has EVER been.
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            • LoverOfWhales
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Feb 2011
              • 11

              #36
              Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

              Originally posted by loveforchrist View Post
              Stop butting into things and trying to get us off topic. That last post by Brother Enoch was the most on topic this thread has EVER been.
              I am simply asking a question, must I go make a new thread?

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              • Brother Enoch
                The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2008
                • 4392

                #37
                Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                Originally posted by LoverOfWhales View Post
                But I thought everyone was created in the image of God? So does that not mean that the other ethnic origins and germans are also in the image of god? So is god not then condemned to hell himself? Does that mean that EVERYONE is a sinner? You have plenty of holes in your theory of Christianity.
                Were you dropped on your head as a child?

                Of course everyone was born a sinner. It was Christ's temporary death on the cross that wiped away the sins of True Christians™.

                And before you start to think that His sacrifice wasn't a big deal, remember He was dead for 3 days! Do you know where He spent those 3 days? IN HELL!

                That's what He did for us. He suffered on the cross, then suffered in Hell. For us. For us!

                After 3 days He rose again. And having done so he washed away the sins of all True Christian™. He took our sins onto Himself.

                But you have to accept Jesus Christ into your heart and truly believe every last word in the KJV Bible for Him to wash away your sins and grant you entrance to Paradise.

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                • Jedediah
                  True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                  Fisher of Men
                  True Christian™
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 6824

                  #38
                  Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                  Originally posted by LoverOfWhales View Post
                  So now the Bible also tells us we can't be ourselves and enjoy the pleasure of listening to our favorite bands? Doesn't seem like quite a loving God to me if he wrote that.
                  God did not create us for our own enjoyment. He created us for His glory. This world exists so that He may demonstrate His power, majesty, and grace. Our lives play out so that those of us whom God has preordained to join Him in Heaven may serve him, spread the Gospel, and obey His Commandments as an example to those who will be spending eternity in the lake of fire.

                  Romans 9:15-16
                  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
                  So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.


                  "God loves everybody" is a popular sentiment among false Christians, but it is not the message of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). Unsaved trash will never comprehend the love of God for His blood-bought children. God loves those who obey His Word and keep His Commandments, which is why He sent His Son to die for our sins - that we may bathe in Christ's Blood and be made perfect.

                  But our reward is not in earthly delights; to be a True Christian(tm) is to be at enmity with the world!

                  John 15:18-21
                  If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
                  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
                  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
                  But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

                  I John 2:15
                  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

                  James 4:4
                  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

                  If you continue the path you are on, you will find yourself falling through a black abyss upon your death. As you continue to fall, you will find yourself falling towards a glowing red ball, and you will feel the temperature getting hotter and hotter. In moments, you will be thrashing about in the lake of fire prepared for satan and his demons! You are moments away from the commencement of your eternity of unfathomable anguish and torment!

                  What do you think will be going through your mind as you find yourself in this situation? Will you be saying to yourself, "I'm so glad I blew my one chance at Salvation(r) because I was too preoccupied listening to rock and roll music to praise God." Or will you be screaming, "I'm sorry Jesus! I'm so sorry that I rejected your kind offer of Redemption and instead chose to listen to dark metal!"

                  Well let me tell you, son. At that point, it will be too late. If you want to join us in Heaven, you need to cut it out with the dark rock and roll music TODAY. What makes you happy in this life is of no consequence. All that matters is the hereafter.

                  Romans 8:17-18
                  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
                  For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
                  II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                  The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                  • LoverOfWhales
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 11

                    #39
                    Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                    Originally posted by Jedediah View Post
                    God did not create us for our own enjoyment. He created us for His glory. This world exists so that He may demonstrate His power, majesty, and grace. Our lives play out so that those of us whom God has preordained to join Him in Heaven may serve him, spread the Gospel, and obey His Commandments as an example to those who will be spending eternity in the lake of fire.

                    Romans 9:15-16
                    For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
                    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.


                    "God loves everybody" is a popular sentiment among false Christians, but it is not the message of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). Unsaved trash will never comprehend the love of God for His blood-bought children. God loves those who obey His Word and keep His Commandments, which is why He sent His Son to die for our sins - that we may bathe in Christ's Blood and be made perfect.

                    But our reward is not in earthly delights; to be a True Christian™ is to be at enmity with the world!

                    John 15:18-21
                    If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
                    If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
                    Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
                    But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

                    I John 2:15
                    Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

                    James 4:4
                    Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

                    If you continue the path you are on, you will find yourself falling through a black abyss upon your death. As you continue to fall, you will find yourself falling towards a glowing red ball, and you will feel the temperature getting hotter and hotter. In moments, you will be thrashing about in the lake of fire prepared for satan and his demons! You are moments away from the commencement of your eternity of unfathomable anguish and torment!

                    What do you think will be going through your mind as you find yourself in this situation? Will you be saying to yourself, "I'm so glad I blew my one chance at Salvation® because I was too preoccupied listening to rock and roll music to praise God." Or will you be screaming, "I'm sorry Jesus! I'm so sorry that I rejected your kind offer of Redemption and instead chose to listen to dark metal!"

                    Well let me tell you, son. At that point, it will be too late. If you want to join us in Heaven, you need to cut it out with the dark rock and roll music TODAY. What makes you happy in this life is of no consequence. All that matters is the hereafter.

                    Romans 8:17-18
                    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
                    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
                    The majority of you are so stupid that you follow a theory that you seem to think is 100% solid, and any chance I have to prove you wrong is simply covered by the fact that you are True Christfag which obviously gives you the right to think you are some magical being with the ability to tell everyone else what to do. You know NOTHING you follow a false prophet and you can't prove [four-letter word deleted] about him. I feel bad for you illiterate dumbpiffles, Now i'm going to go listen to Emmure, fap to hentai, and then go play some world of warcraft. piffle you.

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                    • CultusBulimia
                      Unsaved trash, hateful pervert
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 77

                      #40
                      Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                      Originally posted by Jedediah View Post
                      God did not create us for our own enjoyment. He created us for His glory. This world exists so that He may demonstrate His power, majesty, and grace. Our lives play out so that those of us whom God has preordained to join Him in Heaven may serve him, spread the Gospel, and obey His Commandments as an example to those who will be spending eternity in the lake of fire.

                      Romans 9:15-16
                      For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
                      So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.


                      "God loves everybody" is a popular sentiment among false Christians, but it is not the message of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). Unsaved trash will never comprehend the love of God for His blood-bought children. God loves those who obey His Word and keep His Commandments, which is why He sent His Son to die for our sins - that we may bathe in Christ's Blood and be made perfect.

                      But our reward is not in earthly delights; to be a True Christian™ is to be at enmity with the world!

                      John 15:18-21
                      If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
                      If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
                      Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
                      But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

                      I John 2:15
                      Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

                      James 4:4
                      Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

                      If you continue the path you are on, you will find yourself falling through a black abyss upon your death. As you continue to fall, you will find yourself falling towards a glowing red ball, and you will feel the temperature getting hotter and hotter. In moments, you will be thrashing about in the lake of fire prepared for satan and his demons! You are moments away from the commencement of your eternity of unfathomable anguish and torment!

                      What do you think will be going through your mind as you find yourself in this situation? Will you be saying to yourself, "I'm so glad I blew my one chance at Salvation® because I was too preoccupied listening to rock and roll music to praise God." Or will you be screaming, "I'm sorry Jesus! I'm so sorry that I rejected your kind offer of Redemption and instead chose to listen to dark metal!"

                      Well let me tell you, son. At that point, it will be too late. If you want to join us in Heaven, you need to cut it out with the dark rock and roll music TODAY. What makes you happy in this life is of no consequence. All that matters is the hereafter.

                      Romans 8:17-18
                      And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
                      For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
                      First off I'd like to establish that whatever rank on this site does not mean anything, God did not personally rank people unsaved trash or true christians.

                      Rock and roll, metal or rap should not send you to hell just for listening to it, or even enjoying the sound. Acting on what the lyrics are said in the music would send you to hell according to you guys, right? It's like reading a suspenseful book. Now I admit that the music can influence others to actually act sinful. But the people who don't should not worry.
                      Isa14:21-Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
                      Dueteronomy24:16-The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

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                      • Jedediah
                        True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                        Fisher of Men
                        True Christian™
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 6824

                        #41
                        Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                        Originally posted by CultusBelena View Post
                        First off I'd like to establish that whatever rank on this site does not mean anything, God did not personally rank people unsaved trash or true christians.
                        Our Pastors are learned, holy men filled with the Spirit. The Spirit moves them and guides their decisions, so it is no exaggeration to say that their discernments and judgments are righteous and ordained by God.

                        Psalm 37:30
                        The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

                        Indeed, the Bible tells us that we will even judge angels!

                        I Corinthians 6:1-6
                        Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

                        Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

                        Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
                        If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
                        I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
                        But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

                        Before presuming to tell True Christians™ what you heard about the Bible from some false Christian, you should try picking up the KJV1611 and reading it for yourself.
                        II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                        And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                        In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                        Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                        The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                        • Brother Enoch
                          The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
                          True Christian™
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 4392

                          #42
                          Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                          Originally posted by CultusBelena View Post
                          God did not personally rank people unsaved trash or true christians.
                          Wanna bet on that? I take it you've never read the Bible.

                          The former burn forever in Hell, the latter live for eternity in Heaven.

                          This is the very first thing they teach you in Christianity. Even atheists know that this is what Christians believe. Were you born on Mars or something?

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                          • CultusBulimia
                            Unsaved trash, hateful pervert
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 77

                            #43
                            Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                            Originally posted by Brother Enoch View Post
                            Wanna bet on that? I take it you've never read the Bible.

                            The former burn forever in Hell, the latter live for eternity in Heaven.

                            This is the very first thing they teach you in Christianity. Even atheists know that this is what Christians believe. Were you born on Mars or something?
                            You guys kinda remind me of the movie children of the corn, where you make your own image on what god is and rewrite what you want into the bible to make your own religion, claim to be a prophet.

                            A Christian man joins this site, a moment later he is killed by a fatal heart attack and was never able to obtain True Christian rank. He then goes to hell, because of a rank he was not able to obtain on a obscure forum.

                            I also like how you guys left out the other half of my comment because it genuinely refutes your beliefs.
                            Isa14:21-Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
                            Dueteronomy24:16-The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

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                            • loveforchrist
                              Forum Member
                              Forum Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 138

                              #44
                              Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                              Originally posted by CultusBelena View Post
                              You guys kinda remind me of the movie children of the corn, where you make your own image on what god is and rewrite what you want into the bible to make your own religion, claim to be a prophet.
                              I dunno if you've read the Bible, but I assure you that we go by it word for word. In no way have we ever tried to rewrite the Bible. Seriously, give me anything I believe and I can back it up with scripture.
                              My guide to beating children!
                              New to converting sinners? Read this!
                              ATTENTION SINNERS! Read this before it's too late!

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                              • CultusBulimia
                                Unsaved trash, hateful pervert
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 77

                                #45
                                Re: Hello, I have a question about music.

                                Originally posted by loveforchrist View Post
                                I dunno if you've read the Bible, but I assure you that we go by it word for word. In no way have we ever tried to rewrite the Bible. Seriously, give me anything I believe and I can back it up with scripture.
                                Give me scripture that says the artists that I gave you guys are satanic, and listening to it makes you go to hell.
                                Isa14:21-Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
                                Dueteronomy24:16-The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

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