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  • Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh
    Unsaved trash, scottish chav scum
    • Feb 2011
    • 46

    #1

    Errr... Hi. My views:

    Hi there, my name is Lily and I live in Newport, Wales. I'm actually Roman Catholic, not Baptist, so I hope you don't have any problem with that... I believe in Jesus Christ and his works of mercy, and rest assured, I'm against the theory of Purgatory... but I kind of disagree with a lot of the things I've heard being said, and it's a shame because my good friend is Baptist and his views don't reflect this at all. There's a lot of cynicism and anger, and it really disappoints me. Monotheism is a beautiful religion, and it's a huge let-down to me that there's not much love (*sings The Beatles, "All ya' need is love!!" ;3). I really hope I don't get banned just for sharing my point of view, I love god, I believe in the Messiah, I go to a Catholic school and sing in church, and frankly, I prefer not to earn this title:
    "Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured"
    Which is another thing I would like to address... I feel like it's not your place in authority to assure damnation on anyone, especially because you have no idea who that person is in real life, and it's silly to tell them that they are going to hell. Everyone sins, just ask Adam and Eve about original sin if and once you go to heaven, I'm sure they'd be happy to explain it to you. The wonderful thing about God, though, is that he FORGIVES. He accepts repentance if you have the conscience to want to be forgiven. You have no right or authority to tell someone they are going to hell, that privilege remains with God, and if you're Roman Catholic, Saint Peter. I'm not really here to get into a heated argument with you, I just wanted my opinions to be voiced, and to tell you that the bible is not to be taken literally! I'm sure many of you go against that sentence, but I think there's a difference between religious truth and figurative lessons. Please don't ban me just because my opinions are different from yours, I love God with all my heart and have faith (or I suppose as much as I can, having faith smaller than the size of a mustard seed), and please stop telling people they're going to hell. As it's written... "For what you do to lesser brothers you do to me."
    -Lily E. Walsh
    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3
  • Brother V
    True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 3481

    #2
    Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

    Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
    The wonderful thing about God, though, is that he FORGIVES. He accepts repentance if you have the conscience to want to be forgiven.
    -Lily E. Walsh
    Are you truly repentant though?

    If you aren't then the word you are looking for is Iniquity.

    Are you familiar with the book of Amos (it's in the Old Testament). God says that if you do a sin 4 times, that you don't deserve forgiveness and that you won't get it, even if you ask for it.

    So the question is, are you truly repentant. Are you repentant enough not to do the sin again?

    For example: Have you had premarital sex with your boyfriend? (I don't really care, this is an example) Since you are catholic, you probably went to confession and said to the priest that you did. He told you to do some hail mary's and maybe some other nonsense.

    Did you then have sex with your boyfriend after that? If so, were you repentant of your behaviour? No, you liked it. You went and told the priest you did it again. He told you to go say mumbo jumbo in the corner.

    You had sex again... and again... are you repentant? Nope, you are iniquitous.

    That's when God says, "I'm done with this one".

    YIC
    V
    Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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    • James Hutchins
      True Christian™
      Just a Regular Nice Guy
       
      • Jun 2009
      • 29453

      #3
      Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

      Beautiful words, Brother V.
      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      • Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh
        Unsaved trash, scottish chav scum
        • Feb 2011
        • 46

        #4
        Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

        Well that would never happen anyways, as I believe in chastity. Also, although you could go to a priest and confess, I prefer talking to God on my own. As to what you said about "would I really want forgiveness," the answer is yes. If I go out of my way to confess to a priest or tell God that I'm sorry, I truly am and feel really guilty, and sometimes stressed. Again, it's not your authority to be able to know if I feel guilty about certain things, anyways. That is for God and me to know, as it is only our business.
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        A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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        • Brother V
          True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 3481

          #5
          Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

          Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
          Well that would never happen anyways, as I believe in chastity. Also, although you could go to a priest and confess, I prefer talking to God on my own. As to what you said about "would I really want forgiveness," the answer is yes. If I go out of my way to confess to a priest or tell God that I'm sorry, I truly am and feel really guilty, and sometimes stressed. Again, it's not your authority to be able to know if I feel guilty about certain things, anyways. That is for God and me to know, as it is only our business.
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          So, you probably haven't read Amos then, have you?

          If you keep committing the same sin (doesn't matter if it's premarital sex, or just cheating on a test) then you are iniquitous.

          Have you confessed the same sin 4 times?

          If you have, then God doesn't want to hear it anymore.

          YIC
          V
          Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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          • James Hutchins
            True Christian™
            Just a Regular Nice Guy
             
            • Jun 2009
            • 29453

            #6
            Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

            Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
            Well that would never happen anyways, as I believe in chastity. Also, although you could go to a priest and confess, I prefer talking to God on my own. As to what you said about "would I really want forgiveness," the answer is yes. If I go out of my way to confess to a priest or tell God that I'm sorry, I truly am and feel really guilty, and sometimes stressed. Again, it's not your authority to be able to know if I feel guilty about certain things, anyways. That is for God and me to know, as it is only our business.
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            You see, that is simply not true. God is a busy man, more so these days with the goings on in Egypt and other Earthly festering boils. I am sure you think you can fall back on the old "Judge not lest Ye be Judged' bit. On the surface, it sounds right, but you have to read the entire passage and related verse to get the facts. And isn't God all abut Truth?

            For example, this clearly states that as True Christians™, we are purified from sin.
            1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

            Now the balance her is all about who has the right to Judge others. Of course God does but He has assigned those that are free of sin (as all True Christians™ are) to Judge others for Him.
            Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

            Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

            Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

            John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

            1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
            1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

            1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
            1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
            1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
            1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
            1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
            1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
            (Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

            2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
            2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
            2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
            2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
            2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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            • Youth Minister Harry
              Matt 19:14 Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
              True Christian™
              • Feb 2011
              • 832

              #7
              Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

              Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
              ... but I kind of disagree with a lot of the things I've heard being said, and it's a shame because my good friend is Baptist and his views don't reflect this at all.
              Just as a side note, if your friend does not share the view that the Word of God (KJV 1611) should be strictly followed, I can assure you that your friend is no more a real Baptist than I am the real pope. I mean you no offense by this statement, and I say it with love. I do hope your friend finds salvation soon, as it sounds as if he may be terribly lost. As for yourself, your best chance is to listen closely to what Brother V and Brother Hutchins are so generously offering you. Glory to God!

              Saved By The Rich Blood Of Jesus,
              Harry Lester
              Slathered in the Fresh Hot Blood of the Infant Christ,
              -Youth Minister Harry Lester

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              • Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh
                Unsaved trash, scottish chav scum
                • Feb 2011
                • 46

                #8
                Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                So, you probably haven't read Amos then, have you?

                If you keep committing the same sin (doesn't matter if it's premarital sex, or just cheating on a test) then you are iniquitous.

                Have you confessed the same sin 4 times?

                If you have, then God doesn't want to hear it anymore.

                YIC
                V
                It's actually very possible that my mum made me write verses from Amos, but I would have been around 7-9 years of age, years ago, so I don't quite remember it. She would usually just made me memorize verses from Psalms (which frankly I liked this punishment the best, Psalms is by far my favourite book of the OT) but sometimes I would have to fill up a college-ruled page front and back with one verse over and over again x_x So it's possible I wrote verses from Amos, but I don't recall sitting down and reading it at my leisure. I don't really read the Old Testement as much as I do the New, unless it's Psalms, Ruth, Judges, or in my Old Testament class (last semester, haha xD). I like to read Acts, the Epistles, and some of the lost books (like Thomas, for example. Although it might not be true and the Catholic church denied it's accuracy, I find it really interesting) in the New Testament.

                As for what you said about commiting the same sin twice, if I feel hurt, guilty, and/or stressed over a wrongdoing of mine, and asked God in my forgiveness, or told a priest and thought of how my actions are hurting God and the Savior, no. I don't do it twice. Isn't that the only good thing that comes out of sin? Our ability next time to grow and be closer to God? To have more will and reason to next time not do that thing again? I have, however, sinned more than once on things that I, unfortunately, did not feel guilty about. Mostly as a very young child, when I was a selfish little toddler. Like most toddlers are, they don't really feel too bad about sin because they don't fully know what sin is yet. However!! I am now fourteen in highschool and I do still sin, on occasion. It's the curse of a human, Brother. Please do not labour under a delusion that you have never sinned, or sinned multiple times. Humans sin. If we didn't sin the world wouldn't be so horrible and there would be no point to this test known as earth. Sir, you are a beautiful, smart, caring, and faithful person. Unfortunately, however, you are not a Saint. You are not God, nor are you the Savior. You sin, along with all other humans.
                A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29453

                  #9
                  Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                  Lily, I am a bit miffed you ignored what I wrote. I took a fair amount of time to lay out things based on the Bible. I can only imagine how much it brings tears to baby Jesuss eyes when people ignore all His work.
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh
                    Unsaved trash, scottish chav scum
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 46

                    #10
                    Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                    Lily, I am a bit miffed you ignored what I wrote. I took a fair amount of time to lay out things based on the Bible. I can only imagine how much it brings tears to baby Jesuss eyes when people ignore all His work.
                    I'm sorry James, I'll read it right now. I just read Brother's post first so I responded to it first. Just give me a few minutes
                    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                    • Cranky Old Man
                      Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                      You kids get off his lawn!
                       
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22373

                      #11
                      Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                      Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
                      You are not God, nor are you the Savior. You sin, along with all other humans.
                      Of course he is not God. But you are wrong about the sinning. All True Christians™ are free of sin because we are saved!

                      1st John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

                      Revelation 1:5
                      "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood"


                      1st John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
                      5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                      To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                      James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                      • Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh
                        Unsaved trash, scottish chav scum
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 46

                        #12
                        Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                        Originally posted by Cranky Old Man
                        Of course he is not God. But you are wrong about the sinning. All True Christians™ are free of sin because we are saved!

                        1st John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

                        Revelation 1:5
                        "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood"


                        1st John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
                        Right, and what makes you a True Christian? Only God has the right to claim and title you as a true Christian, you have not right or authority to say that you are of higher value than any other human. I read the bible at my liesure, I love God, I believe Christ died to save our sins, I went to the vatican and kissed St. Peter's foot, I was baptised, got a confirmation name, took first communion, etc. I will willingly be a servant of God. What makes you better than any other human who loves God and has faith? What gives you the power to decide who is a higher level of faith than other servants of God?

                        James, sorry sorry, this one caught my eye haha I'm reading it now, no distractions!!
                        A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                        • James Hutchins
                          True Christian™
                          Just a Regular Nice Guy
                           
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 29453

                          #13
                          Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                          Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
                          I'm sorry James, I'll read it right now. I just read Brother's post first so I responded to it first. Just give me a few minutes
                          Thank you. I thought I was getting a cold shoulder. Not uncommon for women to feel intimidated by me due to my imposing structure. There are not a lot of men at my age that are 6'6" tall, 250 pounds all muscle. It comes from clean living and honest hard work. I am looking forwrward to your well thought out thoughts.


                          Cranky!!!! caught you eye? No offense Cranky... but... Cranky?????
                          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                          • Cranky Old Man
                            Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                            You kids get off his lawn!
                             
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22373

                            #14
                            Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                            Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
                            Right, and what makes you a True Christian? Only God has the right to claim and title you as a true Christian, you have not right or authority to say that you are of higher value than any other human.
                            My value is exactly the same as that of every other True Christian™. I never said my value is higher than that of the other True Christians™.

                            If you genuinely accept God's gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, you gain admission to Heaven. And you will know you have gained admission. If you don't know you have gained admission to Heaven, you have not yet accepted God's gift of salvation through Jesus Christ! God gives special consideration to those who never heard of His plan. But if you are reading this, you just read about it.

                            So since you don't know for sure you are going to Heaven, you are not believing and you will go to Hell!

                            Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

                            I read the bible at my liesure
                            The Bible is not meant as entertainment, it is our guideline to life. You have to read it all the time, not just when you feel like it.

                            I love God, I believe Christ died to save our sins
                            Jesus only saves those who believe in Him! Also you need to stop sinning to be saved! Jesus' words to the adulterous woman He had forgiven in John 8:11 are: "go, and sin no more." God only forgives those who totally and completely stop sinning!

                            I went to the vatican and kissed St. Peter's foot, I was baptised, got a confirmation name, took first communion, etc. I will willingly be a servant of God.
                            All Catholics will go to Hell! Catholics are not Christians because they do not follow 100% of the Holy Bible! Catholics make up all kinds of stuff that is not in the Bible and God does not allow that: Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

                            What makes you better than any other human who loves God and has faith? What gives you the power to decide who is a higher level of faith than other servants of God?
                            Simple, following the Holy Bible for 100%!
                            5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                            To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                            James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                            • WWJDnow
                              True Christian™
                              True Christian™
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6312

                              #15
                              Re: Errr... Hi. My views:

                              Originally posted by Lily Emma Walsh View Post
                              Hi there, my name is Lily.
                              Hi, Lily.

                              I'm actually Roman Catholic, not Baptist, so I hope you don't have any problem with that...
                              We would prefer that you not stay a Catholic and therefore go to Hell when you die, but it is your choice.

                              I believe in Jesus Christ and his works of mercy, and rest assured, I'm against the theory of Purgatory...
                              I can feel the Holy Ghost working to salvage you from the Cathelosatanic Church.

                              it's a huge let-down to me that there's not much love
                              The Bible tells us that God is love, and our views all come from the Bible. We are probably the world's most loving church. Ever.

                              *sings The Beatles, "All ya' need is love!!"
                              You do know that the Beatles were pagans who believed in all kinds of things, such as redistribution of wealth, that Jesus abhors, right?

                              I really hope I don't get banned just for sharing my point of view
                              We're very tolerant here at Landover. After all, Jesus told us that we should turn the other cheek.

                              Everyone sins, just ask Adam and Eve about original sin if and once you go to heaven, I'm sure they'd be happy to explain it to you.
                              That really wasn't Adam's fault, he got tricked into it by Eve, which is why men have to be in charge now. Remember what Paul said in 1 Timothy 2:

                              I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

                              So you really can't blame men for the original sin.

                              You have no right or authority to tell someone they are going to hell that privilege remains with God, and if you're Roman Catholic, Saint Peter.
                              If God and "Saint" Peter disagree about whether someone should go to Hell, who wins that argument?

                              I just wanted my opinions to be voiced, and to tell you that the bible is not to be taken literally!
                              So how do you know that Jesus even existed? There's no non-Biblical evidence for that. We know it's true because the Bible says it's true. What's your take on that?

                              I love God with all my heart and have faith (or I suppose as much as I can, having faith smaller than the size of a mustard seed)
                              Jesus told us:

                              If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

                              So, which mountain have you moved? We move several each year here at Landover, which is why the official elevations of mountains keep changing.

                              if I feel hurt, guilty, and/or stressed over a wrongdoing of mine, and asked God in my forgiveness, or told a priest and thought of how my actions are hurting God and the Savior, no. I don't do it twice.
                              You're not really a Catholic, are you?

                              I am now fourteen in highschool and I do still sin, on occasion.
                              Is lying a sin? Because somebody certified that she was over 18 to get an account here...

                              Sir, you are a beautiful, smart, caring, and faithful person. Unfortunately, however, you are not a Saint. You are not God, nor are you the Savior. You sin, along with all other humans.
                              I sinned like a negro before I was saved, but I have not sinned since I received the blood of Jesus.
                              The Christian Right: The Only Right Way to Be a Christian!

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