[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hi

If you can give me some undeniable proof that the CHRISTIAN god (as in god the father, god the son, and the holy spirit...yes, all three, otherwise you might be showing me the jewish god or the muslim god) exists WITHOUT using the bible, THEN I will believe you, and I will accept Jesus as my savior and yadda yadda blah blah blah....

OK, try this...no Bibles, no churches, no internet, nothing.

No "tricks."
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Ready?
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Walk outside.

Get off of the driveway or the sidewalk. Get on some ground, with grass or gravel or a network of roots or some peat or etc. etc.
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Ready?






He made that.

There is your proof. You walk around on it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

Embrace Him...He does some amazing stuff.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Alvin]

Re: Hi

So, really, both of you are wrong, because you can't both be right.

Friend, I read this about five times now.

So if people disagree about something they are both wrong?

Brother, it is understandable that what she said sounds like nonsense to you, as you are versed in normal predicate logic so you believe that:

From
( A AND B ) = FALSE
it follows that
( A = FALSE ) OR ( B = FALSE )
therefore
(( A = FALSE ) AND ( B = FALSE )) OR
(( A = FALSE ) AND ( B = TRUE )) OR
(( A = TRUE ) AND ( B = FALSE ))
...leading you to conclude that one of two contradictory positions may actually be true.

As a JESUS-hating Atheist however, she has been trained in non-sequitur logic:

( A AND B ) = FALSE
therefore (non-sequitur transformation)
( A = FALSE ) AND ( B = FALSE )
...cuz she just ain't diggin' either A or B, bro'!

If only people learned to trust GOD for their logic:

Wis.12:25 Therefore unto them, as to children without the use of reason, thou didst send a judgment to mock them.

YiC,

Alvin

[Daenerys]

Re: Hi

OK, try this...no Bibles, no churches, no internet, nothing.

No "tricks."
.
.
.

Ready?
.
.
.

Walk outside.

Get off of the driveway or the sidewalk. Get on some ground, with grass or gravel or a network of roots or some peat or etc. etc.
.
.
.
.
Ready?






He made that.

There is your proof. You walk around on it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

Embrace Him...He does some amazing stuff.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

How can you prove (Again, WITHOUT using the bible) that it wasn't made by someone or something else?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hi

How can you prove (Again, WITHOUT using the bible) that it wasn't made by someone or something else?

Occams' Razor has a very deep cut on this one, my dear.



I suppose you could say that a microscopic atom was detonated some 13 billion years ago, an atom that contained every single molecule in the universe, and that these molecules, somehow, over time, assembled themselves into everything that we know today, from Mozart's symphonies to Justin Bieber's haircut to shemale pornography to the Grand Canyon.

Again:

Or you could walk outside and wiggle your toes into the soil and look up and say, "Thanks, God!"

You makes your choices, etc.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Daenerys]

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So.....you're saying can't prove it? Guess I'm not getting saved, then.

[Nobar King]

Re: Hi

So.....you're saying can't prove it? Guess I'm not getting saved, then.

I don't think you came here looking for salvation. You're like the person who goes to the store after lunch, looks around, and says "I don't need any of this". Well, you will.

[Markova B. East]

Re: Hi

by the time I was halfway through my senior year of high school I was considering myself agnostic, and then in college I was full-blown atheist.

Oh Dear Lord in Heaven Above; Why do we continually allow these filth ridden reprobates on our Godly message boards? To think I must come back to this after serving two years in the fetid Congo trying to save the false religionists who think they can convert the savage negroid types is a bit more than I care to bare. Well just pucker up Miss Priss-n-boots because Satan is going to have a lip smackin' good time whippin your blasphemous little hiney.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hi

So.....you're saying can't prove it? Guess I'm not getting saved, then.

Your loss, my dear!



"Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?" (Matthew 6:30)

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." (John 3:36)

Enjoy hell, godless whore!



YiC,

Z-

[Daenerys]

Re: Hi

Are you insane?

The KJV is written in American English© while the other two are in some sand-scribble gobbledygook!!!



YiC,

Z. Smyth

The bible was not originally written in American English because back then America didn't exist. I believe the old testament was written in Hebrew, the language of the Jews and Israel, and some parts were in Aramaic, and the new testament was written in Greek. Also there are translations of the Koran in American English.

I just wanted to make a second comment on this, here.

The KJV is NOT written in "American" English, it is written in OLD English. Nobody in America says things like "thee" and "thou" or ends plural words with "-eth". And on top of that, everything you read (unless you are reading the bible in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic" is a TRANSLATION of what it originally said.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Hi

From
( A AND B ) = FALSE
it follows that
( A = FALSE ) OR ( B = FALSE )
therefore
(( A = FALSE ) AND ( B = FALSE )) OR
(( A = FALSE ) AND ( B = TRUE )) OR
(( A = TRUE ) AND ( B = FALSE ))
...leading you to conclude that one of two contradictory positions may actually be true.

Thank you Brother. I think I, um, understand this. Yes, very true.

Note how our little hussy completely ignored your rock solid argument. Another typical atheist example of dishonesty.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hi

back then America didn't exist.

Oh really? You better take that up with the Injuns!



Z.-

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: Hi

I just wanted to make a second comment on this, here.

The KJV is NOT written in "American" English, it is written in OLD English. Nobody in America says things like "thee" and "thou" or ends plural words with "-eth". And on top of that, everything you read (unless you are reading the bible in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic" is a TRANSLATION of what it originally said.

YOU TOTAL IGNORAMUS!
Here's a sample of Old English:


The Old English Period finished before the 12th Century you 'throwaway-commenting-spout-anything-that-comes-into-my-head-when-I-don't-know-what-I'mtalking-about' dunderheid you.

At least get your facts right.

[Daenerys]

Re: Hi

Thank you Brother. I think I, um, understand this. Yes, very true.

Note how our little hussy completely ignored your rock solid argument. Another typical atheist example of dishonesty.

I ignored it because it was a load of bull doo-doo, not because it was "rock solid". All he did was assign a bunch of letters to words, there was no mathematical or logical or truthful point to it at all.

Oh really? You better take that up with the Injuns!



Z.-

It was not a country back then, it was just a piece of land. There was no such thing as American English when the bible was written. The Indians didn't speak English. Now quit ignoring the points I am trying to make and interpreting things out of context to make yourself sound smart. America is short for The United States of America (which I am sure is what you were referring to when you said "American English" as its main language is English and other countries on the American continent do not speak English as their first language), which is a country, not a piece of land, that gained independence in 1776, LONG after the bible was written.

[Daenerys]

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YOU TOTAL IGNORAMUS!
Here's a sample of Old English:


The Old English Period finished before the 12th Century you 'throwaway-commenting-spout-anything-that-comes-into-my-head-when-I-don't-know-what-I'mtalking-about' dunderheid you.

At least get your facts right.

Fine, then Early Modern English. Its still not American English, which Zechariah Smyth seemed proud to proclaim. Seems I'm not the only "TOTAL IGNORAMUS" on this board, and the other is considered a True Christian!

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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Fine, then Early Modern English. Its still not American English, which Zechariah Smyth seemed proud to proclaim. Seems I'm not the only "TOTAL IGNORAMUS" on this board, and the other is considered a True Christian!

No. The total ignoramus is definitely YOU.

Brother Zech (not yet a True Christian by the way - an honest, valuable and sincere Forum Member if you bothered to read people's status, wench) is not a qualified linguist like myself, but he's well aware the AMERICAN is the closest living language to Early Modern English that exists.

Modern English English has degenerated to using the likes of 'Wotcha', 'chav, 'lavvy', 'quick cuppa' and 'curry' to name but a few.

AMERICAN preserves meanings such as 'mad' or 'rooster' in their original senses.

''Monkey not know nutting - then monkey shut cakehole'' would be my friendly advice.

So stop insulting your betters.