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  • Voidwalker
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Mar 2011
    • 1

    #1

    A question and some insight

    Forgive me if my spelling is not perfect. I don't think Jesus cares about spelling anyway.

    My name is Bill, I do not go to church. My favorite bible verse is

    "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matthew 7:2.

    I do believe in God, I believe Jesus Christ is our Lord in savior, but I'm what you call that fluffy bunny Christian. I do not belong to any denonmation of Christianity preferring to worship God and Jesus in my own way. I feel that the bond I have with them is sacred and only between myself and with God.

    I also would like to provide some insight, and I also have a question.

    But first the insight. Why do Catholics worship Mary? I think from the Catholics that I talk to only the females (some men too) worship Mary. Catholics see God as the boss. You don't go to the boss for everything. Does a young girl go to her father to learn how to sew or bake pies? No she goes to her mother. The father would just call her silly girl and nod her in the direction of her mother. The Bible says, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:3

    A servant of God a saint, angel, Mary etc is not a god but just another servant. I don't think God cares too much if you choose to pray to one of his servants once in awhile. HOWEVER one must take great care not to forgot God or ignore him. I myself have prayed to Mary countless times, however I always pray to God afterwards. I know God is not mad at me for doing so because I feel the Holy Spirit glow with in me.

    Now here is my question. Do people who really haven't heard of Jesus go to hell? It is in the Bible - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
    There is no loop hole around this?
  • Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
    Pastor of Praise and Worship
    A True Christian™ Straight Shooter
    True Christian™
    • Jul 2009
    • 3890

    #2
    Re: A question and some insight

    Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
    Forgive me if my spelling is not perfect. I don't think Jesus cares about spelling anyway.

    My name is Bill, I do not go to church. My favorite bible verse is

    "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matthew 7:2.
    Hello, Bill. That's a wonderful warning against hypocritical judgment.

    Matthew 7:3-6 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
    5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

    Matthew 7 also contains my favorite verse of all.

    6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
    Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
    I do believe in God, I believe Jesus Christ is our Lord in savior, but I'm what you call that fluffy bunny Christian. I do not belong to any denonmation of Christianity preferring to worship God and Jesus in my own way. I feel that the bond I have with them is sacred and only between myself and with God.
    Hopefully, you read your Bible and don't just listen to the voices in your head that tell you what you think God wants. We run across quite a few self proclaimed Christians who don't have a clue what the Bible says.

    Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
    But first the insight. Why do Catholics worship Mary? I think from the Catholics that I talk to only the females (some men too) worship Mary. Catholics see God as the boss. You don't go to the boss for everything.

    Here's where that biblical knowledge comes in handy.

    Matthew 6:5-13 5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
    7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
    8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
    9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
    10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
    11Give us this day our daily bread.
    12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
    13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.


    Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
    Now here is my question. Do people who really haven't heard of Jesus go to hell? It is in the Bible - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
    There is no loop hole around this?
    Yes, they still go to hell even if they haven't heard, but maybe it is a cooler part of the lake of fire. I'm not sure.
    Luke 12:47-48 47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
    48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

    All I know is someone is going to get a beating even if they haven't heard.

    Did you also know that Paul tells us that everyone went to hell from the time between Adam and when the law was given to Moses? Even people who had done nothing wrong.

    Romans 5:14 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
    Praise and worship with Pastor Will. Services at 9 a.m., 11 a.m. and 6 p.m.


    Contact me. pastorwillsampson at gmail.com

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    • Youth Minister Harry
      Matt 19:14 Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
      True Christian™
      • Feb 2011
      • 832

      #3
      Re: A question and some insight

      Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
      Forgive me if my spelling is not perfect. I don't think Jesus cares about spelling anyway.
      Jesus cares about you taking the time to respect Him as best as you can. If you are physically UNABLE to spell, that might be an argument, but simply being lazy about it and then asking for forgiveness for that is probably not a good start on your road to salvation. I'll overlook it, but I'm not God.

      Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
      I do not belong to any damnation of Christianity preferring to worship God and Jesus in my own way. I feel that the bond I have with them is sacred and only between myself and with God.
      It sounds like you have not been Saved. Picking and choosing how to worship the Bible is frowned upon by God. Why would you not want to follow His instructions?

      Matthew 4:4 But he answered, and said, It is written, Man shall not liue by bread alone, but by euery word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


      Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
      A servant of God a saint, angel, Mary etc is not a god but just another servant. I don't think God cares too much if you choose to pray to one of his servants once in awhile. HOWEVER one must take great care not to forgot God or ignore him. I myself have prayed to Mary countless times, however I always pray to God afterwards. I know God is not mad at me for doing so because I feel the Holy Spirit glow with in me.
      Really? Are you sure that glow you are feeling isn't indigestion? I think you've just been tricked by the devil into praying to a plastic doll. The Bible clearly warns us about this:

      1 Corinthians 6:9 Know yee not that the vnrighteous shall not inherite the kingdome of God? Be not deceiued: neither fornicatours, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselues with mankinde


      Originally posted by Voidwalker View Post
      Do people who really haven't heard of Jesus go to hell? It is in the Bible - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
      There is no loop hole around this?
      Can you show me where in the Bible it says "loopholes" are encouraged? Sadly, not everyone shall receive the Lord and therefore True Salvation™. Those people who have not been blessed by the knowledge of the Lord are NOT among His people, and have no business being saved except by the Grace of God.

      2 Corinthians 6:14-17
      6:14 Be ye not vnequally yoked together with vnbeleeuers: for what fellowship hath righteousnesse with vnrighteousnesse? and what communion hath light with darknesse?
      6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that beleeueth, with an infidel?
      6:16 And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idoles? for ye are the Temple of the liuing God, as God hath saide, I will dwell in them, and walke in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
      6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and bee yee separate, saieth the Lord, and touch not the vncleane thing, and I will receiue you


      I'm praying for you. Praise God!

      Washed In The Warm Flowing Blood Of Christ Jesus Upon The Holy Cross Of The Lord's Salvation,
      Harry Lester
      Slathered in the Fresh Hot Blood of the Infant Christ,
      -Youth Minister Harry Lester

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