why kjv? why not niv?

[God is great]

I am terrible at reading 17th centery works, so i wonder..,,whata the difference???

[Jedediah]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Not everyone who calls their self a "Christian" is predestined to be Saved®, but all True Christians™ - i.e., those who glorify the LORD by following every word of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) - are invariably Saved® because we are are filled with the Holy Spirit, maintain the integrity of His Word by following the only True Bible, and keep His Commandments.

However, it is fluffy-bunny liberal false Christians with their fake translations of the Bible who put America's place as God's Chosen Nation in jeopardy. This country has strayed far from its evangelical roots. This decadence kicked into overdrive in the early 20th century as false translations of the Bible, based on Roman manuscripts, began to appear on our shores. In fact, since the arrival of our modern English translations, beginning with the ASV of 1901, America has seen:
1. God and prayer kicked out of our public school
2. Abortion-on-demand legalized
3. Homosexuality accepted nationally as an "alternate life style"
4. In-home pornography via TV, VCR, and Internet
5. Child kidnapping and pornography running rampant
6. Dope-smoking has become an epidemic
7. Satanism is on the rise
8. Video games and dark rock-n-roll music which encourage our children to become homosexuals and school shooters are prevalent

The depraved Madison Avenue sales system that brings false Bibles into the country should set alarms ringing in American "Christians." Instead, deluded by television, they dutifully nod and remark that, "It must be good; everybody's buying one." Is there any "good" coming from modern translations? The publishing companies are making millions of dollars, but the Word is being watered down and perverted, circumventing the opportunity for Salvation™ for millions of people.

Today American "Christians" are spiritually anemic. They turn instead to their favorite "Bible psychologist" for help rather than Scripture. America as a whole is as morally decayed as Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

From the time of its publication in 1611, the King James Bible has grown in popularity. Although not mandated by the King to be used in the churches of England, it did, in a matter of a few years, manage to supplant all of the versions translated before it. Though it was not advertised in the Madison Avenue fashion of today's versions, it soon swept all other versions from the hearts and hands of the citizenry of England and its colonies.

With the conquest of the British Empire behind it, it crossed the Atlantic to the United States. Landing here it overwhelmed the double foothold of the Roman Catholic Church planted previously under the flags of Spain and France.

It then began to permeate young America with its ideals. Its Truths led to the establishment of an educational system, based on Scripture, that was unparalleled in the world. It instilled in men the ideals of freedom and personal liberty - thoughts so foreign to the minds of men that their inclusion in our Constitution could only be described as an "experiment" in government.

It commissioned preachers of righteousness who, on foot and horseback, broke trails into the wilderness and spread the Truth of the Gospel and of right living. In its wake was left what could only be described..."one nation, under God..." This accomplished, it set out for the conquest of the heathen world. Bible colleges (Princeton, Harvard, Yale) were founded. Mission societies formed. And eager young missionaries began to scour the globe with little more than a King James Bible and God's Holy Spirit.

Here's something that you need to think about. If we King James Bible believers have our way, a Preacher would stand in a pulpit to read Scripture and everyone else in the church would read from the same Bible. Isn't that UNITY?

But if the purveyors of false translations have their way everyone would read from a different bible. That's confusion. And who is the author of confusion?

I Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

[Trulychristiankask]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Satan actually wrote the NIV

[God is great]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

but what exactly is changed other than the grammer?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

I am terrible at reading, so i wonder..,,whata the difference???

For the very short version:

The KJV is translated using "direct translation", that is, word-for-word, from the Textus Receptus, the original Greek and Hebrew.

All other versions use "dynamic translation", that is, the translator changes what the words are into what the translator interprets it to mean, from the Latin Vulgate, which was produced by the Unholy Roman Catholic Church.

[Bible Student]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

but what exactly is changed other than the grammer?

Reading is your friend. Why are you too lazy to do your own reading?

Here are some of the things the bible says about laziness otherwise known as sloth [normally I would use the proper spelling and wording from the 1611 King James Bible, but seeing how slothful you are I will use a more modern wording]:

Proverbs 6:6-11 -- Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Proverbs 10:4-5 -- He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. He that gathereth in summer is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in harvest is a son that causeth shame.

Proverbs 19:24-25 -- A slothful man hideth his hand in his bosom, and will not so much as bring it to his mouth again. Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

Acts 20:34-35 -- Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Matthew 25:26 -- His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Why not the NIV.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV--whether in the text or footnotes...over 40 IN ALL!!!
Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text. Right under the line it says: [The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 ed.) The Jehovah's Witness "Bible" also places the last 12 verses of Mark as an appendix of sorts.

Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 22:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 22:43 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

John 7:53-8:11 -- removed in the footnotes

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. It's deletion makes one think that people can be baptized and saved without believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Sounds Catholic. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Acts 24:7 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."

Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. In the NIV it says,

"For there are three that testify:"

Compare the NIV reading with the following Jehovah's Witness reading--

"For there are three witness bearers,"

What are you NIV readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. That is why the Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Why does the NIV leave it out...? Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. People are wresting and perverting the scriptures to their own destruction.

[Didymus Much]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

but what exactly is changed other than the grammer?

For one major example, the explanation of the nature of Christ in 1 John 5 is completely different (only the KJV supports the triune God explicitly 1 John 5:7). If we accept the NIV wording ("7For there are three that testify: ), then when Jesus says "I and my Father are One" John 10:30, it makes no sense.

[Bible Student]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Why not the NIV.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV--whether in the text or footnotes...over 40 IN ALL!!!
Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes
What are you NIV readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. That is why the Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Why does the NIV leave it out...? Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. People are wresting and perverting the scriptures to their own destruction.

Pastor, that was awfully generous of you doing his homework for him. Is it Christmas already?

[PetitionLady]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Reading is your friend. Why are you too lazy to do your own reading?

Here are some of the things the bible says about laziness otherwise known as sloth [normally I would use the proper spelling and wording from the 1611 King James Bible, but seeing how slothful you are I will use a more modern wording]:

Proverbs 6:6-11 -- Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Proverbs 10:4-5 -- He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. He that gathereth in summer is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in harvest is a son that causeth shame.

Proverbs 19:24-25 -- A slothful man hideth his hand in his bosom, and will not so much as bring it to his mouth again. Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

Acts 20:34-35 -- Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Matthew 25:26 -- His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

Brother Bible Student, thank you for bringing up the subject of laziness. I'm seeing this in so many of the newbies who ask questions that have been answered over and over. Reading is obviously not their friend.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Not only is he too lazy to do his homework, he is also to lazy to use God's search engine: seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

[eric_NonChristian]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

apperantly it takes two accounts and a night to get a straight answer. btw, im giving this account and God is great to 4chan. have fun hell bound bastards!

[God is great]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Above statement is true, you false believers.

[Bible Student]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

apperantly it takes two accounts and a night to get a straight answer. btw, im giving this account and God is great to 4chan. have fun hell bound bastards!

Oh gee, we didn't see that coming. Do us a favor. Tell your little kiddies at 4chan to stop coming here. There is a stink about you that we can smell from the first two sentences of your first posts. The stink is probably from your dirty diapers.

[Bible Student]

Re: why kjv? why not niv?

Above statement is true, you false believers.

Another 4chan kiddie? Can you tell us one scripture that any True Christian™ provided you with, that was not from the 1611 King James Bible? And as far as false believers are concerned, I think you fit that bill. You might note that the author of the Epistles of John had a name for people like you who lived during his own time. He called them antichrists.