[Gibberish]

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Oh you can say that I've never opened my bible; but I have read it many a time and love what it has to say about GOD's love for me, how he feels about sin, and what will happen when we pass on from this life.
Now, let me take one of your verses from what you said; there are too many to point at all of them:
Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
A proud look: not a person
a lying tongue: part of a person, but not a person
hands that shed innocent blood: again, part of a person, but not a person.
Are there things that GOD hates? Yes. But are there things that GOD loves? Of course!
I think this is a good video for you all to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4zgJXPpI4

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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I looked up your word "elegcho," but found it to be no where, instead what I found was the word "elenchus" which means:
'Elenchus' in the wider sense means examining a person with regard to a statement he has made, by putting to him questions calling for further statements, in the hope that they will determine the meaning and the truth-value of his first statement (http://www.ditext.com/robinson/dia2.html)

Dear sweet baby Jesus! You can click the word in the concordance.

ἐλέγχω

elegchō


1) to convict, refute, confute
a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
b) by deed
1) to chasten, to punish

http://studybible.info/strongs/G1651

to disgrace, put to shameἐλέγχω to confute, admonish
Derivation: of uncertain affinity;
KJV Usage: convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.
Thayer:1) to convict, refute, confute
1a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
1b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
2a) by word
2a1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2a2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
2b) by deed
2b1) to chasten, to punish

http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/1651.htm

Original Word: ἐλέγχω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: elegchó
Phonetic Spelling: (el-eng'-kho)
Short Definition: I rebuke, expose
Definition: (a) I reprove, rebuke, discipline, (b) I expose, show to be guilty.

1651 elégxō – properly, to convince with solid, compelling evidence, especially to expose (prove wrong, connect).

http://christianisrael.freevar.com/bible/strongs/G1651

ἐλέγχωto disgrace, put to shameἐλέγχω to confute, admonish
Derivation: of uncertain affinity;
KJV Usage: convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.
ἐλέγχω
elegchō
el-eng'-kho
Of uncertain affinity; to confute, admonish: - convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=e%29le/gxw

disgrace, put to shame, μῦθον ἐ. treat a speech with contempt, Il.9.522; ἐ. τινά put one to shame, Od. 21.424.—This usage is only Ep. II. cross-examine, question,
test, bring to the proof

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Oh you can say that I've never opened my bible; but I have read it many a time and love what it has to say about GOD's love for me, how he feels about sin, and what will happen when we pass on from this life.
Now, let me take one of your verses from what you said; there are too many to point at all of them:
Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
A proud look: not a person
a lying tongue: part of a person, but not a person
hands that shed innocent blood: again, part of a person, but not a person.
Are there things that GOD hates? Yes. But are there things that GOD loves? Of course!
I think this is a good video for you all to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4zgJXPpI4

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Proverbs 15:8-9,26 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Isaiah 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Deuteronomy 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Revelation 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

[Gibberish]

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I don't see your point in posting all of those verses, I've read the bible before; I'm not an idiot. If you are going to try to disprove things I say then do it already. I would also like people's thoughts on the video.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Truly, Gibberish, it is a shame you cannot comprehend what you read.

First of all, GOD doesn't command us to hate others, he does say, however to "Hate what is evil and cling to what is good"
(Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.)

And what is good, and what is evil?

Anyone who follows Jesus without question is good. Anyone who does not -- Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, atheist, humanist, liberal cherry-picking "christian" -- is evil.

So, what's your problem, again?

Another thing called upon us to do by the LORD is to love our neighbor as our selves, and to love our enemies:
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Did you miss the "you will heap burning coals on his head" part?

By being good to enemies, you will HEAP BURNING COALS ON THEIR HEADS.

It's not about being nice to them. It's about using God to TORTURE THEM.

Surely those who sin are our enemies; but that does not mean we cast them off! No one would get saved that way, and all are welcome in the kingdom of GOD, but only through CHRIST JESUS our LORD.

Only those who REPENT are welcome.

REPENTENCE means not just saying, "Gee, God, I'm sorry for spitting in Your face and breaking Your Laws." It's realizing that your sins disgust and torture God, and that you are not worthy of His love, and STOPPING SINNING FOREVER.

When Jesus stopped the mob from stoning the adulterous slut, did He tell her, "Go, and only commit minor sins"? Did He say, "Go, and do whatever you like"? NO! He said, "Go, and SIN NO MORE"!

NO MORE. AT ALL. EVER. Why is this so hard for you liberals to comprehend? It's right there, in black and white!

You guys are NOT GOD's favorite church; nor his favorite people:
Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Exactly. Those who fear Him and do what is (by HIS judgment, not by YOURS) right. That'd be us.

Our enemies are:
-Everyone who sins
-The devil

At least you have that part right.

[qutoe]I have gotten a message from your Pastor, Ezekiel Flint that has a swear word in it, [/QUOTE]
Please show me the Scripture that says not to use unpleasant words.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Since I am not able to edit posts I will just double post, which I know is annoying, sorry for that
@Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
I like to think of the different versions of the bibles as languages, some people are fluent in German, English, Albanian, etc.
I prefer to read the NIV because it is the most readily available and gets straight to the point
Such as in 2 Timothy 4:1-2:
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

Gibberish -

This explains quite a bit of your confusion.

You see, the KJV is translated using "direct translation" -- word for word -- from the Textus Receptus, which is the original Greek and Hebrew.

The NIV, and all other false Bibles, are translated using "dynamic translation" -- whatever the interpreter THINKS it should say -- from the Latin Vulgate, which is created by the Catholic Cult.

Which would you trust, something translated word for word from the Greek and Hebrew texts, or some interpreter's ideas of what the text means, which has already been translated and mutilated by the Papists?

[Marshall]

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REAL Bibles are only written in English. They are not meant to be translated or interpreted by man. It was written by God and if He wanted His rulebook rewritten then He would do it Himself, which He has not done. Only hippies and satanists would dare to take the word of the Lord and twist it into something gay like love for all and happy trees singing hosannas to the fluffy gods of love. God isnt fluffy or nice. He will kill you for disobeying him!

Be honest...do you actually own a Bible? A real Bible? NIV isn't an accurate version sinner. Obviously if a mathbook is written in Arabic then the numbers will not add up like they do in English. Thats just common sense so why read a Bible written in some weird language or translated by some humanity-loving Liberal trying to water down the Lord and His teachings? The message is different therefore WRONG.

I didnt read your initial post because it bored me. It started wrong and didnt correct itself so I simply scanned it for inconsistencies, found a lot, and replied accordingly.

[Nobar King]

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"My" so called "God-mocking" NIV, is the same bible you use; when translated it says the same thing, just in different words; therefore it is NOT "God-mocking"

Did you even read what you wrote? How many different versions of the Bible do you have to count before you find one that uses different words but doesn't actually say the same thing?

[Gibberish]

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[qutoe]I have gotten a message from your Pastor, Ezekiel Flint that has a swear word in it, Please show me the Scripture that says not to use unpleasant words.

Trust me, I will:
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
If I could access the message I was sent I would show it to you, but I can't, so I won't.

REAL Bibles are only written in English.

Ahhh, so when you read the NIV it's in Albanian?

Did you miss the "you will heap burning coals on his head" part?

By being good to enemies, you will HEAP BURNING COALS ON THEIR HEADS.

It's not about being nice to them. It's about using God to TORTURE THEM.

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply to this one, but I was literally thrown into a fit of laughter and disbelief because you took the smallest part of the verse out. Let me give you the verse again:
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
First of all this says to be kind, and in doing so you will heap burning coals on his head.
It doesn’t say torture your enemy.
Secondly, the burning coals are more of a metaphor, if you will.
And lastly everything stated in this verse eludes to doing something kind for your enemy.

Be honest...do you actually own a Bible? A real Bible?

Yes, I do own a bible, a real bible, the NIV is not a fake bible.

It started wrong and didnt correct itself so I simply scanned it for inconsistencies...

Point out to me where I was wrong, and the inconsistencies.
That's it for now
True CHRISTian(no I don't need a trademark sign on that, real CHRISTians are obvious)
Gibberish

[James Hutchins]

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Gibberish, your screen name says it all. I do not expect you to respond to this post of mine, just like you have not to any of the others ones I wrote, offering my hand in friendship. All you do is spew and run. You do not like what you hear and you run away like a little kid.

I say this as a benefit for the more gullible Christians out there, in particular the empty headed females. You can try to save ever soul like Gibberish here, but do not be disappointed when you fail. It is not your fault. It is all Satan's doings.

[Marshall]

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NIV is NOT a real Bible you idiot! Read a KJV Bible and the differences are obvious! How can you say they are the same when the very words used inside are completely different? You must be some sort of hebe or troublemaker to come here and be so belligerent and obnoxious. NIV was imagined by namby pamby 3:16ers hundreds of years after God wrote the KJV. It was created to make Christianity seem soft and easy to accept when in reality it is undermining our root cause which is to BE STRONG for Jesus.

Heaping coals on someones head sounds fairly torturous to me. Where are you from anyway?

[Bible Student]

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NIV is NOT a real Bible you idiot! Read a KJV Bible and the differences are obvious! How can you say they are the same when the very words used inside are completely different? You must be some sort of hebe or troublemaker to come here and be so belligerent and obnoxious. NIV was imagined by namby pamby 3:16ers hundreds of years after God wrote the KJV. It was created to make Christianity seem soft and easy to accept when in reality it is undermining our root cause which is to BE STRONG for Jesus.

Heaping coals on someones head sounds fairly torturous to me. Where are you from anyway?

I think he is an emissary from Hell which is why he doesn't think heaping coals are a problem. They are a metaphor like gravity is a metaphor for someone falling off a tall building.

[Gibberish]

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Gibberish, your screen name says it all. I do not expect you to respond to this post of mine, just like you have not to any of the others ones I wrote...

My screen name was randomly selected, it may seem like it has something to do with what I say, but it doesn't, I am using real bible verses from real bibles, and real arguments. I would also just like to point out that I just disproved a member of the "Landover Baptist Church," you said I wouldn't respond, and yet here I am. I didn't respond to other things you said simply because they didn't need response.

NIV is NOT a real Bible you idiot!

First I would like to point out that you're disobeying GOD when you post this:
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
(Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.)
Second I would like to point out when in reading both of these versions they say the same thing, I don't understand how they are complete opposites of each other, as you said in one of your previous posts.

Heaping coals on someones head sounds fairly torturous to me. Where are you from anyway?

I never said it wasn't torture. Originally? Illinois, but I grew up in the very sate that you lot claim to be from.

They are a metaphor like gravity is a metaphor for someone falling off a tall building.

Actually, if this was literal, every time you would be kind to an enemy you would literally see coals on there head.

in particular the empty headed females

I would like to see where the bible says women are stupid, really it sounds like it would be an interesting passage to read.

[Nobar King]

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My screen name was randomly selected.

You don't even know what random is. Back to the vocabulary lessons for you, young man.

[Marshall]

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Why would I be nice to an enemy? That doesnt make sense at all. Ghandi thought like that and hes dead. Jesus isnt a hippy.