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[Gibberish]

give me ten million infractions, I don't care. I feel as if someone needs to point these things out to you.
Yes, I will be using the NIV today, but those of you not fluent in today's language/want to use the KGB to confuse those to argue against you, I will post it in the KGB version below (usually).
First of all, GOD doesn't command us to hate others, he does say, however to "Hate what is evil and cling to what is good"
(Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.)
Another thing called upon us to do by the LORD is to love our neighbor as our selves, and to love our enemies:
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
Surely those who sin are our enemies; but that does not mean we cast them off! No one would get saved that way, and all are welcome in the kingdom of GOD, but only through CHRIST JESUS our LORD.
You guys are NOT GOD's favorite church; nor his favorite people:
Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

I have found evidence of people on this forum have done the opposite of these things:
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.
There should be no class in tithing; for there are those that can't give to the level you can,you're supposed to give 1/10th of your monthly income and not everyone gets the same income as you, the bible says this about it:
If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. Rather be openhanded and freely lend him whatever he needs.
Another subject that would go along with the "Love is patient, love is kind" and the "love your enemies" verses; As Christians these two verses go hand in hand; we need to hate what is evil and love what is good, but we also need to practice love, which the bible states is patient, kind etc. this verse goes along with loving our enemies.
Our enemies are:
-Everyone who sins
-The devil
This includes:
-Everyone
-The devil
I have gotten a message from your Pastor, Ezekiel Flint that has a swear word in it, I have seen other words around these forums that would be considered swearing, and I doubt the LORD would appreciate hearing.
Finally we (we being TRUE Christians, and I stress the word true) are NOT
perfect on our own; through CHRIST we are perfect, but that doesn't mean we don't need to repent for sins that we commit.
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.”
It is clear that we are to seek out a CHRIST-like path which is laid out to us in the bible, the exact same bible that is GOD-breathed!
Truly in CHRIST
Gibberish

[Marshall]

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Please make coherent posts here sinner. Jesus reads these boards and you should be more considerate.
You are named appropriately.

[Gibberish]

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It actually makes a lot of sense if you're coherent in a language I like to call English, tell me, what about this post doesn't make sense to you?

[Brother Alex]

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what about this post doesn't make sense to you?

It's long and stupid. Why do you hate Jesus?

[Gibberish]

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It's long and stupid. Why do you hate Jesus?

The only reason you'd call it stupid is because it's at least more than halfway right. I don't hate JESUS, if I hated him I wouldn't capitalize his name, I wouldn't write something that is this long, nor would I go to this effort for a being that I didn't love. I love him and therefore I wrote this, I felt the need to speak the truth to you. We seem to be worshiping very different GOD's, because your God seems to be very hateful, mine is loving, fair, and just.

[Alphonse Alban]

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Let's see what Jesus has to say about it.

Matthew 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Now there's the Jesus I know

Go ahead, look it up. Even your God-mocking NIV uses this time almost same words.

[Gibberish]

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Let's see what Jesus has to say about it.

Matthew 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Now there's the Jesus I know

Go ahead, look it up. Even your God-mocking NIV uses this time almost same words.

"My" so called "God-mocking" NIV, is the same bible you use; when translated it says the same thing, just in different words; therefore it is NOT "God-mocking"

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

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We seem to be worshiping very different GOD's, because your God seems to be very hateful, mine is loving, fair, and just.

I'm not sure what God you're worshiping, pal, but we believe in and worship the GOD OF THE BIBLE. Have you even read the Bible?

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Proverbs 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
Proverbs 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Hosea 10:13 Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God Hates:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8 ), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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First of all, GOD doesn't command us to hate others, he does say, however to "Hate what is evil and cling to what is good"

There's also:

Psalm 139:21-22
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

Another thing called upon us to do by the LORD is to love our neighbor as our selves,

Our neighbor is defined by the parable of the Good Samaritan as those who show Christian mercy and love. Our neighbor is not everyone.

and to love our enemies:

We love our enemies so much that we try to save them from the flames of hell.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.

That's us. We are nothing if not merciful and loving.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

If it is possible being the key words here.

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written:

I see. You are against the death penalty and prisons I take it. Paul is quoting the Old Testament here. Prov. 20:22

Look what else is in Proverbs 20:30
The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”

As it is written in Proverbs 25:21

Hey look what else is there!

Proverbs 25:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

It's so important that we beat people that Proverbs mentions it over and over again.

“I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Of course God accepts people from other nations. We have True Christians ™ all over the world. It's just that God loves the U.S.A. the most right now much like He loved Israel until they became wicked and then God had to have most of them killed or captured.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

Paul commands us

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

Let's take a closer look at that, shall we?

Reprove- the Greek word ἐλέγχω elegcho

elegcho means
1) to convict, refute, confute
a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
b) by deed
1) to chasten, to punish

Paul charges us to get into people's faces and tell them how they are wrong.

[Gibberish]

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I'm not sure what God you worship, pal, but we believe in and worship the GOD OF THE BIBLE. Have you even read the Bible?

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Proverbs 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
Proverbs 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Hosea 10:13 Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God Hates:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8 ), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

hmm let's see that Galatians verse in the NIV:
The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Yes.. yes.. I do see that you people hate, GOD says that hate is a thing of the flesh, and as all bibles would say, GOD is NOT of the flesh.

[Gibberish]

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Since I am not able to edit posts I will just double post, which I know is annoying, sorry for that
@Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
I like to think of the different versions of the bibles as languages, some people are fluent in German, English, Albanian, etc.
I prefer to read the NIV because it is the most readily available and gets straight to the point
Such as in 2 Timothy 4:1-2:
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

[Gibberish]

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My apologies again for triple posting this time, this will be the last post I will make unless someone replies to me.
I have been given an infraction for "scripture twisting" which isn't what I'm doing, I am taking it exactly from my bible and writing it down here, if I had a camera I would take a video and show it to you, but alas, I don't!
I honestly think you're doing this because the bible I read doesn't say hateful things, but I will not be suspecting.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Since I am not able to edit posts I will just double post, which I know is annoying, sorry for that
@Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
I like to think of the different versions of the bibles as languages, some people are fluent in German, English, Albanian, etc.
I prefer to read the NIV because it is the most readily available and gets straight to the point
Such as in 2 Timothy 4:1-2:
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

I showed you the definition of what elegcho means. That's what you get for reading perversions. It's not my fault you aren't smart enough to read the King James.

Look for yourself in Strong's Concordance.

Here's the New American Standard.

1(A)I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to (B)judge the living and the dead, and by His (C)appearing and His kingdom: 2preach (D)the word; be ready in season and out of season; (E)reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great (F)patience and instruction.

Here's Young's Literal Translation.

1I do fully testify, then, before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who is about to judge living and dead at his manifestation and his reign --
2preach the word; be earnest in season, out of season, convict, rebuke, exhort, in all long-suffering and teaching,

[Gibberish]

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I looked up your word "elegcho," but found it to be no where, instead what I found was the word "elenchus" which means:
'Elenchus' in the wider sense means examining a person with regard to a statement he has made, by putting to him questions calling for further statements, in the hope that they will determine the meaning and the truth-value of his first statement (http://www.ditext.com/robinson/dia2.html)
You call me not smart, but that is not true, who are you to judge intelligence when you're only taking bits and pieces of what I am saying; you have not addressed all issues that I have spoken about.
Reprove:
[ri-proov] verb, -proved, -prov·ing. –verb (used with object) 1. to criticize or correct, especially gently  /ɪgˈzɔrt/ Show Spelled
–verb 1. to urge, advise, or caution earnestly; admonish urgently.


–verb (used without object) 2. to give urgent advice, recommendations, or warnings.



As I said before, no, it doesn't state the same thing directly from the KJV to the NIV, but they both have the exact same idea.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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hmm let's see that Galatians verse in the NIV:
The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Yes.. yes.. I do see that you people hate, GOD says that hate is a thing of the flesh, and as all bibles would say, GOD is NOT of the flesh.

If you think God doesn't practice hatred, then you have never even opened the Bible.


Leviticus 20:23 - "And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them."

Leviticus 26:30 - "And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you."

Deuteronomy 32:19 - "And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters."

Psalm 5:5 - "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."

Psalm 5:6 - "Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."

Psalm 10:3 - "For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth."

Psalm 11:5 - "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth."

Psalm 53:5 - "There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them."

Psalm 73:20 - "As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image."

Psalm 78:59 - "When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:"

Psalm 106:40 - "Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance."

Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

Proverbs 22:14 - "The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein."

Lamentations 2:6 - "And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest."

Hosea 9:15 - "All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters."

Zechariah 11:8 - "Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me."

Malachi 1:3 - "And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness."

Romans 9:13 - "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."