[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Anti gay hate Dietribes will STOP!

Well I have read here that the fact of what the Bible says is Follow The Secular Laws Of The Land, so you can believe anything you want just don't stand over WalMart people and scream they're going to Lesbian Hell just because they are born a lesbian lick my daughter and then be surprised when the Court Says "No I am sorry but you are fired."

Being English and very pedantic when people are using my language I can't help but notice the mistake in the thread title. You mean 'gay hate diatribes will STOP'. The title suggests the opposite.

I was going to talk about abuses of my 'mother tongue' but looking at your message earlier I suspect you have beaten me to it.

YiC

Jack

[Zechariah Smyth]

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I do not know the Walmart Woman, Amy as she is called, but Im guessing as a Lesbian she was not married. That may be why she was working, to answer your question. Would people prefer she married a man so's not to have to work and then lead both to an unhappy marriage where they could not really love ort be loved? And the children would know something was wrong, would also lead to divorce.

I hope that's a rhetorical question.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[napa valley nan]

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Being English and very pedantic when people are using my language I can't help but notice the mistake in the thread title. You mean 'gay hate diatribes will STOP'. The title suggests the opposite. I was going to talk about abuses of my 'mother tongue' but looking at your message earlier I suspect you have beaten me to it. YiC Jack

I am denied the edit buttons because Im not "one of Yours".

I meant to say "LIKE my daughter" not say "Lick my daughter" she is in a commited relationship and will marry when the CA law changes back to the way it was before the Proposition 8.

And speaking of which, the Maggie Gallagher follower "Luis Marinelli" who put together her bus tour last summer for Nom The National Association for "Marriage" has done an about face and is now leaving her org and now says he is sorry to all the gays and lesbians and bisexuals out there he rallyed against.

As you may already know, I was the one behind the 2010 Summer for Marriage Tour which the National Organization for Marriage sponsored and operated throughout July and August last year. It was my doing when, in March that year, I approached Brian Brown about sponsoring and participating in a series of traditional marriage rallies scattered around the Nation.

In fact, the tour route itself, while chosen largely by NOM itself, incorporated as many of the sites I had originally chosen and helped independently organize. Other locations were added due to strategic, political or simply logistical purposes.

Ironically, one of the last tour stops added to the itinerary was Atlanta and I bring this site up because it was in Atlanta that I can remember that I questioned what I was doing for the first time. The NOM showing in the heart of the Bible-belt was dismal and the hundreds of counter-protesters who showed up were nothing short of inspiring.

Even though I had been confronted by the counter-protesters throughout the marriage tour, the lesbian and gay people whom I made a profession out of opposing became real people for me almost instantly. For the first time I had empathy for them and remember asking myself what I was doing.

If my transition from opponent to supporter of same-sex civil marriage was a timeline, Atlanta would be indicated by the first point on the line. The next point on that timeline would be two months later.

[napa valley nan]

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PS: This is what he looks like, a brave soul with an open mind who STOPPED and THOUGHT and opened his mind to the fact that as the courts of law have said since the beginning of time, we are all created equal.
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[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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(fag-enabling blather deleted)

Don't expect any of that hippie liberal nonsense about "empathy" for homers to affect us True Christians™.

[Lycia The Repentant]

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Is it just because I am not so smart, or is that text just... very unclear?

So don't want Lycia to scream to WalMart people... and why are you dragging your daughter into this? You don't know what she wants to do with her life!
I suspect you might be a kiddie-fiddler...

YIC
Elisabeth

Hey, wait a second! What do I have to do with this?

I always do my Christian duty and explain to every worker that talks to me in every store I shop at the importance of accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

[Pure_Angel]

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Hey, wait a second! What do I have to do with this?

I always do my Christian duty and explain to every worker that talks to me in every store I shop at the importance of accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

I am sorry, but I didn't like the tone that napa valley nan had. I am sure that you tell staff about what is right, so do I!
I am sorry if I offended you Sister Lycia.

Yours in Christ
Elisabeth

[napa valley nan]

Re: Anti gay hate Dietribes will STOP!

I always do my Christian duty and explain to every worker that talks to me in every store I shop at the importance of accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

What the NOM guy is saying is you don't have to stop believing the gays lesbians bisexuals are "wrong", just know thats your side of the street to clean up and dont stop them from marrying.

You can learn from him if you read the whole article...

On multiple occasions I have said something to the effect of “homosexuality is wrong”. And in my opinion it is. My transition from an opponent of same-sex marriage to a supporter does not mean I suddenly think homosexuality is a good thing. 


I personally disagree with it. The same way I disagree with many other things other people do with their lives. That doesn’t give me or anyone else the right to prevent homosexuals from being homosexuals or to take away their constitutionally protected civil rights as American citizens.

[Brother Temperance]

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yes the Christians have rights but not to stand over a person at WalMart and scream how they are going to Lesbian Hell when they are just trying to do their job and stock the boxes to put food on the table and take care of loved ones.

Oh, so we have rights, just not our constitutionally protected right to free speech? And how on earth can a queer have "loved ones"? You can't seriously expect us to believe that those folk have real human emotions, do you?

Well I have read here that the fact of what the Bible says is Follow The Secular Laws Of The Land, so you can believe anything you want just don't stand over WalMart people and scream they're going to Lesbian Hell

I think your daughter's just going to regular hell, the principle of separate but equal hells was overturned was legally overturned in 1954 and the last straight-only chamber of eternal damnation was closed in the mid-70s.

lick my daughter and then be surprised when the Court Says "No I am sorry but you are fired."

No thank you, I don't want to catch the AIDS.

I am at work and keeping an eye on the winery.

I'd not heard that euphemism before. It's quite a good one. But I don't think you're in any position to lecture others about responsible behaviour if you're "keeping an eye on the winery" while at work.

I am also not a fancy person and just speak for common people who are the people of today.

If you're normal, why don't you hate fags?

My daughter is a lesbian and that is why I became interested in this site, because of the abuse and harrasment placed on her people here. Thank you

Take the beam out of your own eye first. Try thinking about what a lousy mother you are and working out which particular terrible decision it was that turned your daughter queer before you come here lecturing us.

What the NOM guy is saying is you don't have to stop believing the gays lesbians bisexuals are "wrong", just know thats your side of the street to clean up and dont stop them from marrying.

I am so confused. Are you saying we can clear the trash off one side of the street, but if they're on the other we have to leave them alone? What an odd system. Wrong is wrong and right is right, no matter which side of the street you're on.

[napa valley nan]

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I am so confused. Are you saying we can clear the trash off one side of the street, but if they're on the other we have to leave them alone? What an odd system. Wrong is wrong and right is right, no matter which side of the street you're on.

dammit you know what I'm saying, Mr. Smarty-Pants.

If youre throwing yourself into stopping civil CIVIL I said Civil (as apposed to religious) marriage between the gays and lesbians and bisexuals that - your attitude - is Your Side Of The Street your own issues an inner demons to work out on your own dime / own time.
But if you do not "clean up your side of the street" by I mean deal with the issues and let life take its courses in personal ways to the other ADULTS involved, then you will not just be on the wrong side of the street but you will find you are lo and behold on the wrong side of history.

That is all I'm saying

And no I am not drinking at work. We run a vineyard B&B and I'm in the winery part / giftshop.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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dammit you know what I'm saying, Mr. Smarty-Pants.

Whoa, whoa, WHOA. You can apologize right now for that remark, that is if the wine doesn't have you so addled that you can't see straight.



YiC,

Z. Smyth

[napa valley nan]

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Alright fine I apologize. "Your side of the street" is a common term for Americans now, As In Mind Your Own Side Of The Street. I'll pretend he didn't know what it meant.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Anti gay hate Dietribes will STOP!

Alright fine I apologize. "Your side of the street" is a common term for Americans now, As In Mind Your Own Side Of The Street. I'll pretend he didn't know what it meant.

Thank you, and I accept your apology.

Just because people disagree is no reason to discard our manners.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Bobby-Joe]

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dammit you know what I'm saying, Mr. Smarty-Pants.

If youre throwing yourself into stopping civil CIVIL I said Civil (as apposed to religious) marriage between the gays and lesbians and bisexuals that - your attitude - is Your Side Of The Street your own issues an inner demons to work out on your own dime / own time.
But if you do not "clean up your side of the street" by I mean deal with the issues and let life take its courses in personal ways to the other ADULTS involved, then you will not just be on the wrong side of the street but you will find you are lo and behold on the wrong side of history.

Nan,

God commands gays are to be KILLED. This is has nothing to do with gay marriage. It is about the right of gays to exist. We Christian can not be satisfied until secular law makes homosexuality a captial crime, along with eating shell fish, wearing mix fibers, taking The Lord's name in vain, artists who cast bronze statues and farmers who do crop rotation. I don't think that its unreasonable for us Christian to ask the rest of the society to respect our religion.

[napa valley nan]

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Though I should have said "If He Wants To Pretend He Didn't Know What It Meant, I'll pretend he didn't know what it meant."