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  • Problem of Evil
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    • Apr 2011
    • 14

    #1

    Problem of Evil: Please Refute

    1. God exists.
    2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good.
    3. A perfectly good being would want to prevent all evils.
    4. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence.
    5. An omnipotent being, who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
    6. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
    7. If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good being, then no evil exists.
    8. Evil exists (logical contradiction).
  • Lycia The Repentant
    Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord
    Now that she's Saved©, Priceless
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2010
    • 2019

    #2
    Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

    "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7



    NEXT!
    "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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    • DeNiro
      Foul Sinner on Moderation
      • Apr 2011
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

      Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
      1. God exists.
      2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good.
      3. A perfectly good being would want to prevent all evils.
      4. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence.
      5. An omnipotent being, who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
      6. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
      7. If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good being, then no evil exists.
      8. Evil exists (logical contradiction).
      The Evil Is The Black man.

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      • Problem of Evil
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Apr 2011
        • 14

        #4
        Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

        That doesn't answer the problem. Why would a perfectly good God create evil? Or is the Christian God not considered perfectly good? If he is not perfectly good why follow his word?

        Better yet: Why follow the word of one who creates evil?

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        • Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson
          Pastor of Praise and Worship
          A True Christian™ Straight Shooter
          True Christian™
          • Jul 2009
          • 3890

          #5
          Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

          Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
          1. God exists.
          2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good.
          Try it now. God is responsible for all of it. Once we accept that, there is no more problem with the alleged problem of evil.

          Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
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          • Rev. M. Rodimer
            Honorary True Christian™
            Forum Member
            • May 2008
            • 13996

            #6
            Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

            Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
            That doesn't answer the problem. Why would a perfectly good God create evil? Or is the Christian God not considered perfectly good? If he is not perfectly good why follow his word?

            Better yet: Why follow the word of one who creates evil?
            Search function. Use it, kid. Epicurus has been addressed at least 150 times on this forum. You are neither original nor interesting in your truly pathetic attempt to get us to question God.
            Bible boring? Nonsense!
            Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
            You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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            • Rev. M. Rodimer
              Honorary True Christian™
              Forum Member
              • May 2008
              • 13996

              #7
              Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

              Originally posted by DeNiro View Post
              The Evil Is The Black man.
              We do not tolerate racism on this forum. I believe you were looking for stormfront.org.
              Bible boring? Nonsense!
              Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
              You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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              • Zechariah Smyth
                Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                True Christian™
                • Feb 2011
                • 15251

                #8
                Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
                "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7



                NEXT!
                Well done, Sister Lycia!



                I think the lesson to be learned here is: if someone wants to REFUTE the Bible, they should at least make the effort to READ it first.



                Yours in Christ,

                Z. Smyth
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                • Problem of Evil
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                  Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                  Search function. Use it, kid. Epicurus has been addressed at least 150 times on this forum. You are neither original nor interesting in your truly pathetic attempt to get us to question God.
                  Logical contradictions. Learn them.

                  Obviously God is either not perfectly good, not omnipotent, or not all-powerful. There is no way around this. No amount of wheedling can avoid this. So I ask you: Which one is it?

                  1. Is God not perfectly good? Then his word can not be trusted.
                  2. Is God not omnipotent? Then his word is not all-knowing.
                  3. Is God not all-powerful? Then his word may not be kept.


                  Any of the above three scenarios also present another problem. Another direct contradiction / fallacy in the Bible (alongside those which claim the earth is flat and is 6000 years old).

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                  • AFRICAN JEDI
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                    We do not tolerate racism on this forum. I believe you were looking for stormfront.org.

                    Surely your beard means you are going to hell because God doesnt like beards. you Ol' Wheres Wally with a Goatee lookin' ass nigga.

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                    • Lycia The Repentant
                      Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord
                      Now that she's Saved©, Priceless
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2019

                      #11
                      Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                      Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
                      That doesn't answer the problem. Why would a perfectly good God create evil? Or is the Christian God not considered perfectly good? If he is not perfectly good why follow his word?
                      Yes it does. If you'd actually read the Bible instead of copy/pasting some old thing we've literally seen posted here thousands of times, you'd know that omnibenevolence is nothing more than an unscriptural lie perpetuated by fluffy bunny "God loves everybody!" types.

                      Better yet: Why follow the word of one who creates evil?
                      Because He's God. He's the one in charge, whether people like it or not.

                      Here's an analogy for you. When your boss tells you to clean out the deep-fryer, do you try to prove he doesn't exist?
                      "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

                      An Important Reminder for all unSaved© Ladies
                      Protect Yourself! Important Information about Demons
                      My five Six Step Guide to Stopping Your Miserable Harlotry!
                      Do you hate fornication? Join the Junior Anti-Sex League and help stop it today!
                      An Open Question to All false christians.

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                      • Rev. M. Rodimer
                        Honorary True Christian™
                        Forum Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 13996

                        #12
                        Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                        Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
                        Logical contradictions. Learn them.

                        Obviously God is either not perfectly good, not omnipotent, or not all-powerful. There is no way around this. No amount of wheedling can avoid this. So I ask you: Which one is it?

                        1. Is God not perfectly good? Then his word can not be trusted.
                        2. Is God not omnipotent? Then his word is not all-knowing.
                        3. Is God not all-powerful? Then his word may not be kept.
                        Any of the above three scenarios also present another problem. Another direct contradiction / fallacy in the Bible (alongside those which claim the earth is flat and is 6000 years old).

                        Once again, search function, use it.

                        Nobody at Landover will tell you that God is "perfectly good" by any human standard when He acknowledges -- nay, boasts -- that He Himself creates evil.

                        You're not particularly bright, are you?

                        Your "logic" fails because you mistakenly assume we concur with your basic premise, an "all-good-by-fluffy-bunny-human-standards" God.

                        Your pathetic little challenge may work on false Christians who ignore the Bible for their fairy tales of a god that loves everyone they love and hate everyone they hate, but it won't work on anyone who actually follows the Bible.

                        Try reading it sometime, before assuming that ancient Greek philosophers know diddly about God.

                        Congratulations on your EPICurus FAIL.
                        Bible boring? Nonsense!
                        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                        • Godindisguise
                          Unsaved trash
                          Under Investigation
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2

                          #13
                          Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                          Hi, I'm new here, i like to think that I'm God sometimes.

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                          • Rev. M. Rodimer
                            Honorary True Christian™
                            Forum Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 13996

                            #14
                            Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                            Originally posted by Godindisguise View Post
                            Hi, I'm new here, i like to think that I'm God sometimes.
                            Bye bye.
                            Bible boring? Nonsense!
                            Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                            You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                            • Zechariah Smyth
                              Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                              True Christian™
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 15251

                              #15
                              Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

                              Originally posted by Problem of Evil View Post
                              *** deleted crap they teach you in Philosophy 101 at a low-ranked liberal college ***
                              Trying to assign labels like "good" to God is pointless.

                              He made everything, and He is perfect: trying to put Him on some "morality scale" that a 1st year philosophy student barely comprehends is a fool's errand, one that will earn you an Eternity in the Lake of Fire©.

                              Enjoy!



                              Yours in Christ,

                              Z. Smyth
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