why?

[I am Human]

I just want to ask why do you guys believe in what you believe? Its just that you go by everything the bible says, but why do you think the bible was created by god himself. Do you have a time machine that I don't know about, and watched him create the heaven and the earth, as well as pass down the bible to man?

I have gone through this site for a little bit, and just wanted to ask why? Why aren't other religions right? Why is it that Christians are the only ones who are right?

I don't want to start any conflict, I just want to know why? Is there something you guys know that the rest of us do not?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: why?

Dear friend, we know that the Bible is God's Word because of the following:

2 Tim. 3:16-17: All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The Bible does not say that the Rig-Veda, the Qur'an, or the Book of Mormon is God's Word.

[I am Human]

Re: why?

But why is it that the bible was gods book? what makes you believe that it is, what if I were to write down something on paper and bury it into the ground hoping that someone would find it 1000 years down the road and he started believing it. What makes any of you guys different than him?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: why?

Jesus tells us in John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

And

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Also, are you asking us specifically or Christians in general? If you are asking about Christians in general, you should know that 75% of Americans believe the Bible is God's Word.

[I am Human]

Re: why?

Jesus tells us in John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

And

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Also, are you asking us specifically or Christians in general? If you are asking about Christians in general, you should know that 75% of Americans believe the Bible is God's Word.

okay, but why do 75% of Americans believe in the bible being God's word, is there proof? The only proof you're giving me is what is written in a book. I mean anyone could have written that, how do you know it was god?

Also is it safe to say that you believe in the bible because you are afraid of what might happen after you die? There is no way of knowing that you're right until you get to that point, any of the other religions could be right, we don't know, they were also recorded throughout history and many people believe in that, what makes them wrong and you right?

Why go throughout life fearing what may happen, instead of just enjoying what happens?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: why?

We pray, God answers. I don't understand why this is so confusing to you. If you'd just listen to Him you'd hear the truth of scripture as well.

[I am Human]

Re: why?

Jesus tells us in John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

And

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Also, are you asking us specifically or Christians in general? If you are asking about Christians in general, you should know that 75% of Americans believe the Bible is God's Word.

We pray, God answers. I don't understand why this is so confusing to you. If you'd just listen to Him you'd hear the truth of scripture as well.

so everything you've prayed for has come true is this what you are telling me?

Because I've prayed for certain things, they have come true for me as well, but I am not a believer in your god, I have my own beliefs that do not coincide with any religion except for what I've observed throughout my life that fit with what happens. I have a great life, a great family, and every decision I make turns out to be for the better, does it mean that my "god" exists?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: why?

okay, but why do 75% of Americans believe in the bible being God's word, is there proof? The only proof you're giving me is what is written in a book. I mean anyone could have written that, how do you know it was god?

Nothing that has stood the test of time so well and is as widely beloved as the Bible could be wrong.

Also is it safe to say that you believe in the bible because you are afraid of what might happen after you die?

Of course! If you die without believing in Jesus, you go to hell for all eternity.

There is no way of knowing that you're right until you get to that point, any of the other religions could be right,

Then I'm out nothing. The boodists and hindaloos believe in reincarnation. The mooslimbs believe "followers of the book" get to go to heaven in a subservient role. The only way I could be hosed is if the Jews or Mormons were right all along. In that case, even fewer people are going to Heaven than I believe.

Why go throughout life fearing what may happen, instead of just enjoying what happens?

Absolutely not! That's a horrible idea and one that leads to hell.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: why?

so everything you've prayed for has come true is this what you are telling me?

Of course it hasn't, or we'd be raptured already and you'd be burning in hell right now instead of persecuting us on our own board! That doesn't mean God doesn't answer all prayers. He does, it's just that often the answer is "No".

[I am Human]

Re: why?

Of course it hasn't, or we'd be raptured already and you'd be burning in hell right now instead of persecuting us on our own board! That doesn't mean God doesn't answer all prayers. He does, it's just that often the answer is "No".

I don't mean to cause any trouble, I just want to know why, I just find it sad and frustrating to see how you guys can look down on so many people for believing in something different. I see many of you making fun of other people's beliefs, instead why not just live your life the way you want to, and let others live theirs without making comments on their beliefs and making fun of them. The way I see it, If I am a good person to everyone, and I mean everyone, and don't cause any harm physically or mentally to anyone, then I will have good things happen. I have lived by this philosophy my entire life, and only good has come from it, especially in the long run. I just want you guys not to be so harsh to people that don't believe in the same things you do, because who knows you could be wrong.

Other than that, my original question why was just to see your side of things, personally, I don't believe it is right, but who knows you could be...

[I am Human]

Re: why?

Nothing that has stood the test of time so well and is as widely beloved as the Bible could be wrong.



Of course! If you die without believing in Jesus, you go to hell for all eternity.


Then I'm out nothing. The boodists and hindaloos believe in reincarnation. The mooslimbs believe "followers of the book" get to go to heaven in a subservient role. The only way I could be hosed is if the Jews or Mormons were right all along. In that case, even fewer people are going to Heaven than I believe.



Absolutely not! That's a horrible idea and one that leads to hell.

I understand the bible stood the test of time, but wasn't that due to fear? Look back in history, many people were killed for not believing in the bible, and that led to fear in many eyes. It was a very good way of creating a totalitarian society, however there were people like me that asked the question why, and didn't get any answers, except were just killed for asking. That is why I believe it stood the test of time. I mean doesn't that make sense? If your entire family was killed for not believing in Christianity, wouldn't you start believing due to fear, and pass those beliefs down to the rest of your family.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: why?

I understand the bible stood the test of time, but wasn't that due to fear? Look back in history, many people were killed for not believing in the bible, and that led to fear in many eyes. It was a very good way of creating a totalitarian society, however there were people like me that asked the question why, and didn't get any answers, except were just killed for asking. That is why I believe it stood the test of time. I mean doesn't that make sense? If your entire family was killed for not believing in Christianity, wouldn't you start believing due to fear, and pass those beliefs down to the rest of your family.

300 years ago that may have been the case. People have had the freedom to choose since then and the majority have made the right decision to be a Christian.

[I am Human]

Re: why?

300 years ago that may have been the case. People have had the freedom to choose since then and the majority have made the right decision to be a Christian.

Yes but it was because of that people started believing in Christianity. Now the way I see it, the only reason people still believe in Christ is because they are afraid of burning in hell. I mean, hell does sound like a terrible place, I would hate to go there, however I refuse to believe that every Christian will go to heaven even if they are rude and bad to others. I don't mean you, because you have treated me with respect up to this point, and for that I thank you. I do not have anything against someone like you with believing in Christianity, it is just those that think they are completely right, and everyone who doesn't is an idiot, and treats them as idiots. I have friends that believe in Christianity the same way you do, and they are good people, so again I just can't stand to see that some of you look down on so many people.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: why?

Yes but it was because of that people started believing in Christianity. Now the way I see it, the only reason people still believe in Christ is because they are afraid of burning in hell.

Precisely as Jesus wants people to.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

it is just those that think they are completely right, and everyone who doesn't is an idiot, and treats them as idiots.

We generally give as good as we get. I guess you could say we do unto others.

And we are right. All Christians believe that. Some of them just aren't as open about it. We don't pull any punches and we preach just like Paul tells us to.

2 Timothy 4: 1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

I have friends that believe in Christianity the same way you do, and they are good people, so again I just can't stand to see that some of you look down on so many people.

They do look down on you until they can get you to join them. They will tell you they don't. They may not even know they look down on you, but they want you to become like them first and foremost.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: why?

I don't mean to cause any trouble, I just want to know why, I just find it sad and frustrating to see how you guys can look down on so many people for believing in something different.

We don't look down on them. We pity them.

I see many of you making fun of other people's beliefs, instead why not just live your life the way you want to, and let others live theirs without making comments on their beliefs and making fun of them.

Anyone who is offended has the option of not visiting this Christian church's discussion forum. Unlike YOU, we are not going about trolling the entire Internet and injecting our opinions where they are not wanted.

That, apparently, is part of the atheist dogma.

The way I see it, If I am a good person to everyone, and I mean everyone, and don't cause any harm physically or mentally to anyone, then I will have good things happen.

So you believe in the Hindu-based concept of "karma", which is used by Hindus to enforce their "caste" system. Under the caste system, you are born into a particular sector of society; in order to leave it, you must be the best Untouchable you can be, then die, and be reborn to a higher caste. If you are uppity and demand not to spend your days scrubbing sewer pipes -- just because you can read and think you can do better things -- you will be punished. If you marry someone outside your caste, you may be put to death.

Is that what you believe?

Tell me, who is the great scorekeeping intelligence that you believe dishes out rewards and punishments for your good or bad behavior? Santa Claus? Vishnu?