[Mr.Warren]

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Is it because no mainstream religion makes sense to you?

Essentially, even Deism or Theistic Existentialism do not make sense to me. Deism, because I do not believe that God has to be proven by science, but science can be used to support the concept to an extent. I'm a religious Vagabond basically, wandering from church to church, as the feeling strikes me. Regardless of the religion as well, although I haven't had the chance to visit a Church outside of a Christian one.

[Didymus Much]

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...I do not believe that God has to be proven by science, but science can be used to support the concept to an extent...

Huh?

...I'm a religious Vagabond basically, wandering from church to church, as the feeling strikes me...

You're a dilettante. W/e, you'll learn something while you're here.

...Regardless of the religion as well, although I haven't had the chance to visit a Church outside of a Christian one.

So you've tried all the flavours, as long as they're vanilla? This isn't Baskin-Robbins, there's more than 33.

[Mr.Warren]

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Huh?

You're a dilettante. W/e, you'll learn something while you're here.

So you've tried all the flavours, as long as they're vanilla? This isn't Baskin-Robbins, there's more than 33.

Well, basically Deism states that God can be proven by science, which I agree with, however it implies that God can only be proven by the observable world, and I personally believe there are things here that we can not quite observe(at this point in time), and I also believe that most scientific studies do not support the existence of a God, but nor do they discredit it(I am, of course, talking about a neutral God here, one unaffiliated with any religion)

I wouldn't call myself a dilettante quite, because I do have knowledge of a lot of religions, and just a bit of their teachings, however I haven't had the chance to study more because I'm lacking in resources(and the simple fact of the matter is that if I'm on the internet, it's going to be hard for me to pay attention to an online Torah for example). I would not say I have extensive knowledge or anything, but I do have an interest and would like to learn more. I'm moving to Denton for college pretty soon, and they have various religious clubs, and I'm hoping to attend some of them, and it's just really hard to find a church that isn't Christian when my Dad won't go, and I don't live within walking distance of one.
I would say, it's more like wanting Chocolate Coffee ice cream, and instead getting Vanilla with sprinkles(because the person buying you ice cream is incompetent) , disappointed that you didn't get what you want, but okay with it because it'll have to do for the moment until you finally move out of the house and buy your own damn ice cream.

[Didymus Much]

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...and I also believe that most scientific studies do not support the existence of a God, but nor do they discredit it(I am, of course, talking about a neutral God here, one unaffiliated with any religion)...

Would you care to show me scientific studies that show ANY evidence of ANY God or supernatural being? When you get to college, take some Philosophy (logic, etc.), and learn about the difficulties involved in proving a negative hypothesis.

...I wouldn't call myself a dilettante quite, because I do have knowledge of a lot of religions, and just a bit of their teachings...

I called you a dilettante because you don't seem to be taking this whole religion thing very seriously. It's not a putdown.

...however I haven't had the chance to study more because I'm lacking in resources...

Now, imagine trying to find the answers to your questions 30 years ago, before the internet:

1) Go to local library (6 mile bike ride, or snowy walk in winter).
2) Find an interesting book.
3) Read it, and get more questions.
4) Check the bibliography for further sources.
5) Check the card catalogue to see if local branch has a copy (of course not). Ask librarian if city central branch has a copy. If yes, fill out a transfer request to get the book sent to local branch (wait 4-6 weeks for reply). If no, you're s*** out of luck. (But maybe, just maybe, one of the local university libraries has it, full day trip into city to find out that no, they don't).
6) Give up on finding answers to your specific question, and just read EVERYTHING in local library (most of which is biased or hopelessly out of date).

As opposed to the present:
1) Turn on computer.
2) Go to Wikipedia or Google.
3) Find answer.

(and the simple fact of the matter is that if I'm on the internet, it's going to be hard for me to pay attention to an online Torah for example)...

Why?

...I would say, it's more like wanting Chocolate Coffee ice cream, and instead getting Vanilla with sprinkles...

Well, Landover's like Rocky Road (it's full of nuts! ).

[Mr.Warren]

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Would you care to show me scientific studies that show ANY evidence of ANY God or supernatural being? When you get to college, take some Philosophy (logic, etc.), and learn about the difficulties involved in proving a negative hypothesis.

I called you a dilettante because you don't seem to be taking this whole religion thing very seriously. It's not a putdown.

Now, imagine trying to find the answers to your questions 30 years ago, before the internet:

1) Go to local library (6 mile bike ride, or snowy walk in winter).
2) Find an interesting book.
3) Read it, and get more questions.
4) Check the bibliography for further sources.
5) Check the card catalogue to see if local branch has a copy (of course not). Ask librarian if city central branch has a copy. If yes, fill out a transfer request to get the book sent to local branch (wait 4-6 weeks for reply). If no, you're s*** out of luck. (But maybe, just maybe, one of the local university libraries has it, full day trip into city to find out that no, they don't).
6) Give up on finding answers to your specific question, and just read EVERYTHING in local library (most of which is biased or hopelessly out of date).

As opposed to the present:
1) Turn on computer.
2) Go to Wikipedia or Google.
3) Find answer.

Why?

Well, Landover's like Rocky Road (it's full of nuts! ).

I haven't taken any logic courses, but I have read a bit of philosophy, and I don't expect God to ever be proven, it just prevents me from having reoccurring panic attacks over how atoms got here and came into existence. I know my wording implies that there may be a scientific study out there that supports the existence of God, I just have a tendency to avoid absolutes, it's just in my speech and typing pattern.

Ah, well the way I have seen the word used it was in a pejorative manner every time, so I thought you might have been

Also, I do love libraries, I just can't check out any books because the libraries in my area are interconnected(most of them) and I owe one, oh 50 dollars which I have neglected to pay off..., and I simply can't pay attention for too long on the internet, because I get distracted with talking with friends from the various schools I have attended over my life, so reading any difficult text usually doesn't go very well.

Yes....Landover seems like an interesting place

[Lucas M.]

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Hello Mr. Warren, it's nice to meet you. I have also recently joined this forum, as I'm looking fo rmore knowledge on the lord. Perhaps we could have a nice chat sometime?

[Mr.Warren]

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Hello Mr. Warren, it's nice to meet you. I have also recently joined this forum, as I'm looking fo rmore knowledge on the lord. Perhaps we could have a nice chat sometime?

Quite possibly, most have my conversations are rather nice, or terribly boring